Bears repeating!
Also, let’s stick closely to topic, it really helps preventing tangents and drama.
Also, let’s stick closely to topic, it really helps preventing tangents and drama.
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What do y'all think about the Balenciaga SS23 & Adidas collab "teddy" controversy?
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I think so. I used to laugh at my sister because she believed all the pizza gate stuff. Now I am not so sure anymore.
Exactly! People are trying to give them the benefit of the doubt but there is no benefit when they have been doing this for years. We are focused on the image and the status they created so we don't pay attention to the symbols. There is a huge pedophilia movement happening behind the scenes, by different people and organizations, and they are trying to push their agenda onto us. We are the gatekeepers of society. Someone said that if she decides not to buy their bags, it won't make a difference. If we all take a stand to protect our vulnerable children, yes, it will make a difference.
the more i read and learn, the more horrified and repulsed i am. i have been so naive and uneducated about all these symbols and "hidden" messages. my eyes are wide open now, and i am terrified for our children.
what does this mean exactly, is he (Demna) not denying it???
For me, this isn’t really different that the current US trend of taking small children to drag shows and allowing/encouraging them to stuff money in performers enormous fake breasts. It’s slowly and intentionally both awaking and desensitizing small children’s sexuality. Attend a drag show. Have fun. But leave the kids at home.
omg my husband was just showing me some of these videos/pics last night. i agree with you wholeheartedly!!!
The power is with the consumer. They can be taken down.
We'd like to leave this thread open, but political conspiracy theories, among other comments need to stop. Discuss the topic only please, let's keep the discussion open and all responses to others need to remain respectful.
Me too….for heavens sake. I fail to see how obnoxious behavior by those in current control of a brand should cast aspersions on beautiful items created by someone else, twenty years ago.
Meanwhile Cristobal Balenciaga is rolling in his grave... Legacy fashion houses are just that, a legacy. Unfortunate that with Demna at the helm this has unravelled in front of us.
To take the horrific actions of the people responsible for these disgusting ads and decide that anyone wearing anything Balenciaga (especially from decades ago) is somehow now implicated in this tragedy is horribly misdirected. It’s like if you’re hunting a deer, you drop a bomb in the forest. Horrible example as I am an animal lover but nonetheless.
This is a big problem with cancel culture in every possible way. Instead of focused targeting, it’s war on everything related….as far back as …..whatever. Oh, yes…and let’s make this personal. Instead of funding child pornography litigation, let’s make sneers at some woman carrying an 05 Balenciaga city as she’s walking down the street. Yeah, that helps.
This is a big problem with cancel culture in every possible way. Instead of focused targeting, it’s war on everything related….as far back as …..whatever. Oh, yes…and let’s make this personal. Instead of funding child pornography litigation, let’s make sneers at some woman carrying an 05 Balenciaga city as she’s walking down the street. Yeah, that helps.
Disgusted. I have Bal since I WAS a fan of the city bag but no more. Done with them.
I worked for multimillion dollar ad agencies for the first 20 years of my career. Just some facts, do with them what you will.
1. The client (in this case, Balenciaga) ALWAYS has to sign off on final images/artwork/ads. Their contract will state that explicitly. This is to legally protect both the agency and the client. The client does not have legal liability if they do not sign off. The contract will also state at what level signoffs are required. This will keep an intern from signing a contract.
2. Minors are required to have a parent or guardian at all photo shoots/recordings. They must sign a release stating that their images/likeliness will be used in the ads or elsewhere. (Many years ago I did a photo shoot for Intel and one of the featured employees refused to sign the release. He was not allowed to be featured in the ad because of it.)
3. All vendors sign off on the finished product as proof that they have finished the job so they can get paid.
4. Management/legal/ADA/compliance on the client side reviews as necessary/requested.
IMO all this finger pointing is BS. Follow the signatures for confirmation.
1. The client (in this case, Balenciaga) ALWAYS has to sign off on final images/artwork/ads. Their contract will state that explicitly. This is to legally protect both the agency and the client. The client does not have legal liability if they do not sign off. The contract will also state at what level signoffs are required. This will keep an intern from signing a contract.
2. Minors are required to have a parent or guardian at all photo shoots/recordings. They must sign a release stating that their images/likeliness will be used in the ads or elsewhere. (Many years ago I did a photo shoot for Intel and one of the featured employees refused to sign the release. He was not allowed to be featured in the ad because of it.)
3. All vendors sign off on the finished product as proof that they have finished the job so they can get paid.
4. Management/legal/ADA/compliance on the client side reviews as necessary/requested.
IMO all this finger pointing is BS. Follow the signatures for confirmation.
As I understand, the only target of the $25M lawsuit is that the true source/nature of the SCOTUS case on child porn was not disclosed to Bal and was misrepresented as made-up stuff. If true, Bal does have a potential case against the agency, but of course the claim that they were lied to about those papers could be rebutted and disproven.
I'm not aware of Bal claiming that the ads including the children were done without their signoff, and that's not what they're suing for.
I'm not aware of Bal claiming that the ads including the children were done without their signoff, and that's not what they're suing for.
Agree, the only reason I mentioned children is because some people further up the thread were asking where the parents were. They were there -- they had to be.
I have never been to a shoot without a client present. There are usually multiple representatives from the client at every one. It is the client's responsibility to review and approve all the details at shoots. They can't walk away and claim ignorance. It's like getting a ticket for something and claiming that you didn't know the law. It's not a loophole.