What bag do you wish would go away?

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Good post and true. They just don't wanna admit it.

Actually, that's not the case. For me, the truth is I just don't want to support a designer that makes a living by putting his name on other people's work. MK has done it long enough to completely lose its appeal. Also, the bang-for-buck factor is very low - the quality just isn't there.
 
Having had just looked at the prices, I can understand why people buy the bags, they really are a fraction on the cost of (even his mainline and) other designers and they don't have a separate 'diffusion' branding.

Totally agree, the price is such a big factor for a lot of people. Premier designers have difficulty offering a diffusion line without it diminishing the brand's image, something with which MK is very familiar. Not everyone can afford to spend thousands on a bag, but a few hundred is an "attainable luxury." To me, they aren't competitors at all as they're customer base is nowhere near the same.
 
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Actually, that's not the case. For me, the truth is I just don't want to support a designer that makes a living by putting his name on other people's work. MK has done it long enough to completely lose its appeal. Also, the bang-for-buck factor is very low - the quality just isn't there.

Depends on the bag, like most brands they have winners and losers.. ok well maybe not losers but ones that are not as well made as others.

Seems to me though so many are inspiring off of one another these days, to truly gain something different/unique i find designer is NOT where to buy.
 
On the fur bugs: I applaud Fendi for making use of and a profit with what are truly leftover scraps of fur from their bigger fur items. It's the cheaper copies that worry me because the fur's not ethically sourced. There are plenty of alternatives out there too make of sheepskin and faux. People are tired of changing their very expansive bags so they buy charms to change the look. I think it's a great thing.

Is this verifiable information about ethical sourcing and scraps? Have they really said that? Because more than one companies have gotten caught making the same claim about their small fur items and fur decorations on f.e. coats, then later admitting that's not the case.
Also, ethical sourcing for fur would mean catching the animals in the wild, using a method that isn't painful or doesn't leave the animal stuck for hours or even days before ending its life. Another alternative would be that the animals get to live in cages that are abt 50x50 m wide because they naturally have a large territory and they move a lot. Also, the chance to hunt, forage and breed should be available. The animals should be put under by using chloroform or something of the sort (carbon dioxide is not ethical, it's very painful) before being put down. Then we could talk about things being ethical.

In Finland, the production method is in the most humane edge of the scale and even here, it's a brutal business. Tiny cages, net flooring, no stimulants like toys, forced cannibalism, and the end comes very painfully (it starts by stunning the animal using an electric shock to the nose and that's not even the worst part). So, for Fendi to use the words "ethical" and "scrap pieces" really puts their PR under the lens of scrutiny. I don't buy it.
 
Is this verifiable information about ethical sourcing and scraps? Have they really said that? Because more than one companies have gotten caught making the same claim about their small fur items and fur decorations on f.e. coats, then later admitting that's not the case.
Also, ethical sourcing for fur would mean catching the animals in the wild, using a method that isn't painful or doesn't leave the animal stuck for hours or even days before ending its life. Another alternative would be that the animals get to live in cages that are abt 50x50 m wide because they naturally have a large territory and they move a lot. Also, the chance to hunt, forage and breed should be available. The animals should be put under by using chloroform or something of the sort (carbon dioxide is not ethical, it's very painful) before being put down. Then we could talk about things being ethical.

In Finland, the production method is in the most humane edge of the scale and even here, it's a brutal business. Tiny cages, net flooring, no stimulants like toys, forced cannibalism, and the end comes very painfully (it starts by stunning the animal using an electric shock to the nose and that's not even the worst part). So, for Fendi to use the words "ethical" and "scrap pieces" really puts their PR under the lens of scrutiny. I don't buy it.

Without getting into debates about ethics know that for Fendi's idea was initially in response to brain storming ideas by the team (knowing a couple of 'the team') to use up 'waste' in-line with what Hermes did/does with petit H. This was to maximize profit of course, just like H, rather than from any altruistic motive. Now that demand now is above supply I don't know if that's still the case.

Sourcing from the wild can be crueler and is actually more harmful in the long-run as of course the animals will become scarcer and cubs etc may have no parental guardians/providers. Although, I do understand that unfortunately the reason that much non-farmed countryside around the World is managed/tolerated at all is due to the huge popularity of hunting and fishing (some by native peoples). Without it, no doubt humans would argue to destroy every scrap of 'non-used' land. Well managed and heavily regulated farms are what are needed. A verifiable, accountable, highly regulated and effectively monitored fur supply is the only way. Consumers need to be careful and accountable too. That of course goes for all animal products and by-products.
 
the neverfull.. it's really.. not pretty to me, and every time i see one i wonder why the woman bought a beach bag to carry as a purse.
Good point for the beach bag - but neverfull is so comfortable, it is literally never full, and that is great quality for the purse. I love to travel with it, because it looks pretty enough for me and it fits everything I might need during my travel adventures.
 
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I totally agree with you. I think it's entertaining to have a question of the week, but, when it feels like "bashing" it makes me uncomfortable. Lots of people here have saved long and hard to buy anything from MMK to Dooney to Givenchy, Gucci and Balenciaga. I don't want anyone to feel bad!

Why anyone should feel bad if they own a bag they like but someone from Forum does not? We all have our preferences in terms of purses - someone likes MK, Prada, Gucci, Dooney, etc. someone doesn't. We all cannot love the same things, because we are all different and unique, like purses we buy. This is forum where we can exchange opinions and share our experiences. There are threads where one can share their bags and get praised, but this one is just to share what one doesn't like. So why not?
 
Actually this is not the case at all. Just because you (or many others here on TPF) who are so invested in the brand and know who they are.........does not mean at all that the general public is also as well versed.

Many women simply go into their local store and see a bag that appeals to them....so they buy it. They have no idea at all that the bag is a "copy" of another designers bag. All they know is that it appeals to them so they buy it.

I guess that means that they have good taste?

Totally agree with you. If we know the difference in styles and brands and all that, I doubt that general public knows as much as we do. Not all women are obsessed with purses, and MK is good quality for the money paid.
 
On topic: I don't wish any would go away, though I hope to have enough influence over the gifts I receive not to find myself with designs and colors I dislike but will feel obligated to carry.
 
Actually, that's not the case. For me, the truth is I just don't want to support a designer that makes a living by putting his name on other people's work. MK has done it long enough to completely lose its appeal. Also, the bang-for-buck factor is very low - the quality just isn't there.


Good for you. Then I guess you won't be buying bags from, like, 70% of brands out there (including premier designers).
 
Well, I'm actually not. Can you give an example of another "designer" that rips others off as blatantly as MK? (I already named DKNY so that's that for that)


LV Alma is a copy of Hermès Bolide. LV Totally is a copy of MK Jet Set. Saint Laurent Sac de Jour for Birkin. Givenchy Nightingale is a copy of an older Celine bag (first season of Phoebe for Celine). Mansur Gavriel bucket bag is a copy of LV Noe. Jimmy Choo Mave is a copy of Balenciaga clutch. The list goes on....
 
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