WARNING, Paypal just made me lose $20 THOUSAND dollars from a scamming buyer
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When I contacted the company that authenticated the bag to start with, that was the type of attorney she suggested. She works for an intellectual property firm. It makes sense to me........It cannot hurt to call one.
Actually, you can accept Moneybookers now as an accepted form of Payment and not Paypal.
Yep, here is the actual email from PP yesterday stating the bag has been destroyed.......when I CALLED them they explained that since the buyer signed an affidavit stating the bag was destroyed, then of COURSE it was......because a SCAMMER would not LIE, right????
PayPal recently notified you of a complaint received from a user regarding
merchandise that is claimed to be not authentic. The details of this
transaction are as follows:
Transaction Details:
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Buyer's name: xxxxxxxxxx
Buyer's email: xxxxxxxxxx
Transaction ID: xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Transaction date: xxxxxxxxxxx
Transaction amount: xxxxxxxxxx
Your transaction ID: xxxxxxxxxxx
Case number: xxxxxxxxxxx
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Upon review of the evidence provided, we have considered the claim made to
be genuine. PayPal has verified that the inauthentic item has been
destroyed.
A refund has been issued to the buyer in accordance with the PayPal
Protection Policies. The funds have been removed from your PayPal account.
If your PayPal account contains an insufficient balance to complete this
refund, your account access may be limited.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Sincerely,
Michelle
Protection Services Department
PayPal, an eBay Company
The idiotic "supervisor" at PP was so rude it was UNBELIEVABLE. She just kept repeating herself over and over like a broken record saying, "the bag was destroyed because the buyer signed an affidavit stating she did so." She also said, "Of course we do not demand photos of the destroyed item, the buyer signed a legal affidavit." May I add the affidavit is NOT NOTARIZED stating the destruction of the bag was actually witnessed??
This is nothing but INSANITY!
I will be obtaining a court ordered subpoena that will force PP to release all records from their "investigation."
PP had your property destroyed...I would check into this legal venue. As Vegas Long Legs posted a third party should be responsible for doing this after checking all the pertinent markings unique to Hermes bags and comparing them to what the seller claims and what the buyer claims. A moron should be able to smell the scam. Affidavit, my ass!!!
I also find it outrageous that PP believed a ZERO FB buyer over a seller with a proven track record...what does it take???
I am so sorry Kristie...just sick for you!!! I have a feeling your bag will appear, somewhere, one of these days. Scammers are greedy!
The thing is no one knows what POS the buyer would have produced to Paypal or whomever. Or if she returned it, the same issue. She could have snet back a kid's backpack.
This is what I was basically screaming at PP! They kept repeating (like everything else) that the fact that she had no FB on Ebay and no history with PP was irrelevant.
I pointed out that for 2010 I had over $120K in PP transactions that I paid FEES on to them and she had NOTHING. They just plain DID NOT CARE.
I absolutely agree with the method of "destruction" you suggested. They need to match up the bag to be destroyed to MY authentication records, MY ebay photos and MOST importantly MY craftsman stamp from the bag since that cannot be faked to match mine if the buyer was trying for a bait and switch KWIM?
I even typed a 3 page letter to PP stating why I felt this woman was going to pull a bait and switch and that she would have a fake bag authenticated to try to keep my authentic one AND get her money back. I wrote the letter and basically SPELLED IT OUT verbatim her whole scam which she has now successfully completed. I wrote the letter to make it clear what this person was doing from the start. I also wrote it because I figure I am smarter than the idiots at PP and I thought I would do their work for them.
NONE of my letters, receipts, faxes, official letter of authenticity on THAT bag, NOTHING mattered to them.
Would you give us the buyer Id on ebay so we can all block her.
Sorry if you already done so, because I could n't find it here.
I feel awful for what happened to you.
Sorry if you already done so, because I could n't find it here.
I feel awful for what happened to you.
I absolutely agree with the method of "destruction" you suggested. They need to match up the bag to be destroyed to MY authentication records, MY ebay photos and MOST importantly MY craftsman stamp from the bag since that cannot be faked to match mine if the buyer was trying for a bait and switch KWIM?[/QUOTE]
This is what I can't understand. What you proposed as evidence was not even taken into consideration...as well as your Ebay/PP track record.
I think someone dropped the ball at PP.
Get those damn records!
This is what I can't understand. What you proposed as evidence was not even taken into consideration...as well as your Ebay/PP track record.
I think someone dropped the ball at PP.
Get those damn records!
This in itself is a very interesting statement... you the OP also provided
documentation on authenticity as well... there seems to be a loophole
here..what was the evidence that PP reviewed to make the
determination that this item was fake?? What was the documentation
that the buyer provided.. I'd want to know that? The craftsman
mark was authentic... what venues did pp go through to check
authenticity on their end.. just take the word of a no feedback buyer?
Something is very wrong here...very wrong...
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