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Hi! Does anyone have patricias legacy and could tell me a bit about the strap? I’m trying to see if it’ll fit on my 9080 slim duffle and make it rest lower on my hip. Thanks!

there’s a 9951 I have my eye on it I bet with and without the flap would have the same strap. 9950 and 9951. Thoughts welcome!
Maybe this is the kind of info you are looking for, maybe not but it is the kind of info that helps me make decisions and is impossible to find.

My Patricia's Legacy strap (1996 creed, #9951) measurements are:
49.5 inches long
1-3/8 inches wide
with four .25 inch interior diameter holes that begin about 3.25 inches from each end
and are 1.5 inches apart.
The buckles are 1-3/8 inches interior both wide and tall with a 3/8 inch prong.

My Saddle bag strap (1996 creed, #9988) is:
41.25 inches long
1-3/8 inches wide
with four .25 inch interior diameter holes that begin about 1.75 inches from each end
and are 1.5 inches apart.
The buckles are also 1-3/8 inch interior both wide and tall with a 3/8 inch prong.

My NYC creed Courier did not come with a strap but the buckle is yet again 1-3/8 inch wide and tall with a 3/8 inch prong.

So long story short, the longer Patricia's strap can be used in all three, which is exactly why I bought it.
 
I don’t know what a 9080 is. The Slim Duffle that I know is 9816. I have a Patricia and the strap is thicker than my Slim Duffle 9816 and my Saddle bag 9170. The Slim Duffle, Saddle bag and my Rambler’s Legacy can share/switch straps.

Pardon the state of the straps. Both of them have not been rehabbed yet. The black strap is the Patricia’s and the gray one is the Slim
Duffle.

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Maybe this is the kind of info you are looking for, maybe not but it is the kind of info that helps me make decisions and is impossible to find.

My Patricia's Legacy strap (1996 creed, #9951) measurements are:
49.5 inches long
1-3/8 inches wide
with four .25 inch interior diameter holes that begin about 3.25 inches from each end
and are 1.5 inches apart.
The buckles are 1-3/8 inches interior both wide and tall with a 3/8 inch prong.

My Saddle bag strap (1996 creed, #9988) is:
41.25 inches long
1-3/8 inches wide
with four .25 inch interior diameter holes that begin about 1.75 inches from each end
and are 1.5 inches apart.
The buckles are also 1-3/8 inch interior both wide and tall with a 3/8 inch prong.

My NYC creed Courier did not come with a strap but the buckle is yet again 1-3/8 inch wide and tall with a 3/8 inch prong.

So long story short, the longer Patricia's strap can be used in all three, which is exactly why I bought it.
Thanks for your contributions! So, regarding interchangeable straps, here’s what we have so far:

1” width
9816 slim duffle 46” long
9060 large slim duffle 35.5” long
9170 saddle bag
9061 Rambler’s legacy

1.375” width
9951 Patricia’s legacy 49.5” long
9988 saddle bag 41.25” long
8920 Courier
9952 Lula’s legacy 58.25” long

Feel free to add more to the list!
 
Thanks for your contributions! So, regarding interchangeable straps, here’s what we have so far:

1” width
9816 slim duffle 46” long
9060 large slim duffle 35.5” long
9170 saddle bag
9061 Rambler’s legacy

1.375” width
9951 Patricia’s legacy 49.5” long
9988 saddle bag 41.25” long
8920 Courier
9952 Lula’s legacy 58.25” long

Feel free to add more to the list!
Wow that Lula's legacy strap is really long! Too long possibly!
 
Thanks for your contributions! So, regarding interchangeable straps, here’s what we have so far:

1” width
9816 slim duffle 46” long
9060 large slim duffle 35.5” long
9170 saddle bag
9061 Rambler’s legacy

1.375” width
9951 Patricia’s legacy 49.5” long
9988 saddle bag 41.25” long
8920 Courier
9952 Lula’s legacy 58.25” long

Feel free to add more to the list!
This is great information!
also 1 inch wide
9796 spectator bag 44 inches long
Originals small emory 49 inches long
 
I don’t know what a 9080 is. The Slim Duffle that I know is 9816. I have a Patricia and the strap is thicker than my Slim Duffle 9816 and my Saddle bag 9170. The Slim Duffle, Saddle bag and my Rambler’s Legacy can share/switch straps.

Pardon the state of the straps. Both of them have not been rehabbed yet. The black strap is the Patricia’s and the gray one is the Slim
Duffle.

View attachment 4852376

View attachment 4852377
Maybe this is the kind of info you are looking for, maybe not but it is the kind of info that helps me make decisions and is impossible to find.

My Patricia's Legacy strap (1996 creed, #9951) measurements are:
49.5 inches long
1-3/8 inches wide
with four .25 inch interior diameter holes that begin about 3.25 inches from each end
and are 1.5 inches apart.
The buckles are 1-3/8 inches interior both wide and tall with a 3/8 inch prong.

My Saddle bag strap (1996 creed, #9988) is:
41.25 inches long
1-3/8 inches wide
with four .25 inch interior diameter holes that begin about 1.75 inches from each end
and are 1.5 inches apart.
The buckles are also 1-3/8 inch interior both wide and tall with a 3/8 inch prong.

My NYC creed Courier did not come with a strap but the buckle is yet again 1-3/8 inch wide and tall with a 3/8 inch prong.

So long story short, the longer Patricia's strap can be used in all three, which is exactly why I bought it.
Thanks for your contributions! So, regarding interchangeable straps, here’s what we have so far:

1” width
9816 slim duffle 46” long
9060 large slim duffle 35.5” long
9170 saddle bag
9061 Rambler’s legacy

1.375” width
9951 Patricia’s legacy 49.5” long
9988 saddle bag 41.25” long
8920 Courier
9952 Lula’s legacy 58.25” long

Feel free to add more to the list!
This is great information!
also 1 inch wide
9796 spectator bag 44 inches long
Originals small emory 49 inches long
Is there a google spreadsheet tool anywhere in here?? Seems the perfect application to manage our contributions.

as I see replies to my summary post, I can add them to the list and repost. If anyone can think of an easier way to see them all side-by-side, feel free to offer a suggestion. I haven’t used this platform’s tools much to understand its capabilities.
 
Thanks for your contributions! So, regarding interchangeable straps, here’s what we have so far:

1” width
9816 slim duffle 46” long
9060 large slim duffle 35.5” long
9170 saddle bag
9061 Rambler’s legacy

1.375” width
9951 Patricia’s legacy 49.5” long
9988 saddle bag 41.25” long
8920 Courier
9952 Lula’s legacy 58.25” long

Feel free to add more to the list!
This is great information!
also 1 inch wide
9796 spectator bag 44 inches long
Originals small emory 49 inches long

INTERCHANGEABLE STRAPS

1” width
9816 slim duffle 46” long
9060 large slim duffle 35.5” long
9170 saddle bag
9061 Rambler’s legacy
9796 spectator bag 44” long
Originals small emory 49” long

1.375” width
9951 Patricia’s legacy 49.5” long
9988 saddle bag 41.25” long
8920 Courier
9952 Lula’s legacy 58.25” long
 
Wow that Lula's legacy strap is really long! Too long possibly!
I was gonna say! It will be on my knees. :lol:
Lolzzzz. I think it is longer because of where it attaches on the bag. With the duffles, the buckles are typically a couple inches above the zipper. With Lula’s legacy, they’re a few inches below the top of the bag, below the drawstring. It doesn’t seem that long, really!
 
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INTERCHANGEABLE STRAPS

1” width
9816 slim duffle 46” long
9060 large slim duffle 35.5” long
9170 saddle bag
9061 Rambler’s legacy
9796 spectator bag 44” long
Originals small emory 49” long

1.375” width
9951 Patricia’s legacy 49.5” long
9988 saddle bag 41.25” long
8920 Courier
9952 Lula’s legacy 58.25” long
Nice! This is super helpful!

add for 1”
Janice’s legacy 9950, 47”
Small Legacy Zip 9997, 45.5”

Add for 1.375”
Crescent 9235, 35.5”

Side note: One of my Lula’s is only around 51”, not 58”. My other 2 are around 53”. One was made in a different plant and year than the other 2.
 
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INTERCHANGEABLE STRAPS

1” width
9816 slim duffle 46” long
9060 large slim duffle 35.5” long
9170 saddle bag
9061 Rambler’s legacy
9796 spectator bag 44” long
Originals small emory 49” long

1.375” width
9951 Patricia’s legacy 49.5” long
9988 saddle bag 41.25” long
8920 Courier
9952 Lula’s legacy 58.25” long
Nice! This is super helpful!

add for 1”
Janice’s legacy 9950, 47”
Small Legacy Zip 9997, 45.5”

Add for 1.375”
Crescent 9235, 35.5”

Side note: One of my Lula’s is only around 51”, not 58”. My other 2 are around 53”. One was made in a different plant and year than the other 2.


INTERCHANGEABLE STRAPS

1” width
9060 large slim duffle 35.5” long
9061 Rambler’s legacy
9170 saddle bag
9796 spectator bag 44” long
9816 slim duffle 46” long
9950 Janice’s legacy 47” long
9997 Small Legacy Zip 45.5”
Originals small emory 49” long

1.375” width
8920 Courier
9235 Crescent 35.5” long
9951 Patricia’s legacy 49.5” long
9952 Lula’s legacy 58.25” long (B6D USA), 51”, 53”
9988 saddle bag 41.25” long
 
Nice! This is super helpful!

add for 1”
Janice’s legacy 9950, 47”
Small Legacy Zip 9997, 45.5”

Add for 1.375”
Crescent 9235, 35.5”

Side note: One of my Lula’s is only around 51”, not 58”. My other 2 are around 53”. One was made in a different plant and year than the other 2.
Weird. Can you send me the country and code like I’ve included for mine?

also, may not be an exact science considering ppl could’ve switched out straps, like I’m planning to do. Also good to know that 9950 is 1”! 9951 is 1.375. They look so similar to me, I just thought they’d both have the same width strap.
 
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