Thanks for: the authenication (or lack of) confirmation, the primer on 1990s D-plant creeds and example thereof, and the info on the zipper tape color for this style. All great info to store away for future reference.
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Not just those, but check out the photo of the back and look at the zipper pull - that style metal pull with the little crescent shape at the top is always a red flag on older and vintage bags, the only time Coach ever used a similar style was on the much later Poppy bags and maybe a few others from around 2010-12. And look at the construction of the base, both inside and out, and compare the quality of construction to a genuine one. There's a big difference. Fake is in Red, genuine is in Brown
Creed pic has been posted, for those of us following along at home.
I know this is the wrong thread for authentication but the conversation started here so, here is the creed/serial number for the above mentioned bag. Does it look ok @Hyacinth ?
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Just snagged this Bradley for $47! Got it authenticated first. I'm so excited!
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Any rehabber looking for a burgundy Baxter for themselves? If so, this looks like a reasonable one. Yes, it has issues (no hang tag and also perhaps a missing main zipper pull), but appears to be structurally sound. With a cleaning and redye it should look fabulous.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Handbag-Burgundy-/122090985261?hash=item1c6d30972d:g:KrwAAOSw-itXteVN
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Handbag-Burgundy-/122090985261?hash=item1c6d30972d:g:KrwAAOSw-itXteVN
Thanks for posting that. I totally don't need another Baxter (I have black and British tan), but I pulled the trigger on that one. I do not have any Burgundy vintage bags, and I love Baxter. I don't think it will need to be re-dyed. My black one looked worse than that when I got it, and it cleaned up great without needing any dye.
The Baxter is a sweet design, and for $30 shipped a find. Glad to hear that it went to someone who'll appreciate it. It'll be a terrific first burgundy bag. I suspect that you're right and it'll clean up sufficiently to use. I'm usually inclined towards making items like this, especially those destined for end use by family and friends, look as close to new as possible. So my suggestion was based on that perspective. Also, I'm not a big fan of using color cream to mask over badly faded or worn areas and I never use treatments intended for boots to "disguise via darkening." But I know that there are many who advocate using products like Blackrock or Obenauf's for those purposes. I'm just not one of them. So to each their own.
Good luck restoring this bag to splendor. I'm confident that you'll end up treasuring it.
Thanks. I typically don't use any dyes or color creams. I've found that a bath, use of a combination of conditioners, and brushing with a horsehair brush will restore most bags. Sometimes corners or edges need extra treatment, but vintage Coach bags made of glove-tanned leather that have been dyed through the hide are amazingly resilient. And if a vintage bag has a little character, I'm ok with that, too. It just means they have a story. (I am again working on a bag that must have been scratched by a cat. It must have an amazing story.)
Cat scratches. Reminds me of a putty colored late-1970s #9085 Duffle Sac I once had (NYC with a glued-in registration number) that had a handful of what appeared to be cat claw marks: small discrete digs, but minimal associated scratches. The bag was memorable because out of the hundreds (yes hundreds) of COACH bags I've handled, this one was the best example of (baseball-grade) glove-tanned leather I'd ever come across. Miles Cahn would have been very proud of this bag! That particular bag cleaned up outrageously well with but a bath, some conditioning and a brushing. Despite the claw marks, it was one beautiful bag. Even though I tend to perfectionism, in my view the "defects" did not really detract from this bag one bit. Personally I thought that it would make someone the best beach bag ever. Then my youngest made off with it during one of her purges of the store room. It truly was a great example of the style.
Now I have my eye out for a "first-year" (metal tag) Duffle Sac, preferably in saddle, or one of the earlier bucket bags from 1969/1970. They, along with any of the three sizes of lined canister bags, are among the handful of styles on my short-list. I'd like to see how the original center-seam versions were put together, but for that purpose one with a cartouche imprint or creed/pre-registration number will do since they appear to have made that variant from 1971 to the mid-1970s.
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I think I have your cat claw Duffle Sac's twin. Mine is also a Duffle Sac, NYC with a glued-in registration number. (What are the chances?)
Here's where I posted about it three years ago: Coach Rehab and Rescue Club
I get it out periodically and work on it. I tried leather filler on it a year or so ago. The leather filler is white but it said that it dried clear. That was a lie. It did a great job filling the holes, but it left white reside everywhere. I had to wash the bag again to get rid of the reside (and, unfortunately, all the filler in the holes). I bought another kind of leather filler that is tinted that I'm going to try, but it may be too dark brown. My step-mother actually saw the bag recently with the white residue all over it and wanted it. I wouldn't let her take it in that condition because I think I can do better. We will see. It will be quite an achievement.
I'd love to have one of those early duffle sacs or bucket bags, too. I just love the look of them.
Here's where I posted about it three years ago: Coach Rehab and Rescue Club
I get it out periodically and work on it. I tried leather filler on it a year or so ago. The leather filler is white but it said that it dried clear. That was a lie. It did a great job filling the holes, but it left white reside everywhere. I had to wash the bag again to get rid of the reside (and, unfortunately, all the filler in the holes). I bought another kind of leather filler that is tinted that I'm going to try, but it may be too dark brown. My step-mother actually saw the bag recently with the white residue all over it and wanted it. I wouldn't let her take it in that condition because I think I can do better. We will see. It will be quite an achievement.
I'd love to have one of those early duffle sacs or bucket bags, too. I just love the look of them.
Indeed, an early Duffle Sac is one of the few remaining unlined styles that I'm keeping my eye out for. Otherwise, I'm strictly on the lookout reasonably priced 1960s BC styles with madras striped (or plaid) fabric linings. Those are the styles that really appeal to me. There are two items current on eBay that I have my eye on. We'll see how much attention they attract. One appears to have leather issues (as in obvious cracks) which is problematic on the styles that employed thinner leather and sometimes indicative of unresolvable structural conditions. But if it doesn't get bid up too high, I may be game to give it a go. The other is a style I already have examples of, but the one listed is of historical interest and I'd like to compare its features to the ones I have. Well, we'll see how those auctions go.
british tan is a bit harder to match i admit - my bag is black so just using another black strap from another bag that i had is what i did.
you can always go on amazon or ebay and see if there are any straps that are the same color? or see if any of the current purses that you have have any straps that could match
you can always go on amazon or ebay and see if there are any straps that are the same color? or see if any of the current purses that you have have any straps that could match