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#25,157
Cate103 said:
Oh wow! How was the condition of the kit?
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Puzzling. It's not as soft and squeezable as in the photo. I think it's been painted because it's very shiny.
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No way to verify if it is actually the exact item made by Coach or another company from the same time. It's stamped GLOVE TANNED 4 oz. COWHIDE on the bottom. It's probably isn't Coach. Lol.
 
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#25,158
houseof999 said:
Be careful with those. There are some fakes with G plant code.
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Hyacinth said:
Exactly. Almost every plant code Coach has ever used has also shown up in fakes, including quite a few that were never used in handbags at all but were Coach's internal production codes for plants making things like keychains, shoes, scarves, clothing, etc. Every Coach plant or leased facility had its own plant code. For instance the "J" plant code with US or Portugal creeds should only be found in clothing items made in the mid-1990s. It was only used in genuine handbags after it was reassigned to a China plant in or around 1999. "D6J-" is a known always fake prefix when it's found in any handbag, and the bag will usually say it was made in the USA.
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Thank you both for sharing this information!!! VERY helpful! :flowers:
 
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Hyacinth said:
There were at least half a dozen codes that were what I call "Floaters". They were mostly from G to M and were assigned as needed to temporary plants only in use for a few weeks or months, or independent plants where Coach had simply leased a part of their production facilities. They could and often were used for more than one country so they shouldn't even be given any country designation otherwise someone might think that if that particular code is with a creed that says it's from a different country, someone might think that second bag is fake.

Sometimes a floater code could be used for more than one country in the same MONTH. For instance in 1995 the M code bounced back and forth like a tennis ball between the US and Costa Rica, and in March ("C" month code") the M plant code was used for BOTH plants in the same month. The same thing happened with the M plant code in April of 1997.

To muddy the waters even more, a surprising number of serial numbers in bags from the mid to late 1990s had the 3 digits of the serial prefix scrambled, and sometimes it can take a while to even figure out which is the month code and which is the plant code. One or two people who call themselves "experts" and even "authenticators" STILL haven't figured that out.

Those are just some of the many reasons why I don't make lists of countries and codes. And that's why the only way to be sure they're correct is to compare them with known genuine bags made in the same plant, month and year. Another problem is that some people who don't understand the system just assume that if it has the "right" plant code, it must be genuine, and that definitely is NOT always correct. They look for short cuts, but there aren't any. Or as any hobbit would tell you, "Short cuts make long delays".

Most plant codes will be in bags that show the country of origin right in the creed stamp anyway.
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Thank you Hyacinth! I appreciate your time and sharing this info!
 
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Ammrx said:
thank you so much. The kindness of everyone here taking the time to share their information is amazing. I think I was being too ambitious to try for the exact year but I would love to find something from the 60s.
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Im a 90’s baby. Im still waiting for the day I find a bag where the creed shows the exact month & year I was born. I did a google search once but there were barely any active listings...lol :lol:
 
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Coachaddict4020 said:
Im a 90’s baby. Im still waiting for the day I find a bag where the creed shows the exact month & year I was born. I did a google search once but there were barely any active listings...lol :lol:
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My oldest son is a 90s baby, and I'm always looking out for bags with the same month & year. All my browsing and I haven't seen one yet! That's about the only year from the late 90s I haven't had.

I'm a late 70s baby, so I consider the glued in creed era about as close as I can get to my age. All three of my basic bags are from that time frame.
 
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Lucyblue13 said:
My oldest son is a 90s baby, and I'm always looking out for bags with the same month & year. All my browsing and I haven't seen one yet! That's about the only year from the late 90s I haven't had.

I'm a late 70s baby, so I consider the glued in creed era about as close as I can get to my age. All three of my basic bags are from that time frame.
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Yea, some month codes are so common but the one for my month, I rarely see it. Im starting to think coach took a break with production when I was born... not cool coach! :lol:

Sometimes I wonder how awesome it must have been to be around in the 60s/70s/80s/90s. I feel like these days, social media destroys a lot of stuff. People are so hooked on their phones. All my nieces & nephews are growing up with Ipads & smartphones & I can already see how it’s affecting them. I wonder what everything will look like at the end of this decade lol
 
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