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What’s the difference between a metal Coach vs Bonnie Cashin tag?
Here are examples of metal tags. There were also several cloth Bonnie Cashin tags. Some of those were placed over the metal Coach tag.
 

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Did Cashin design the Courier Pouch? If so, that one is my favorite. I have one with a metal Coach tag, not a metal Bonnie Cashin tag.

I will be curious to know too. I think the Courier pouch was one of the first 12 Coach handbags debuted in early 1960s. Any one has information about those 12 bags? Were they designed by Cashin or Cahn? The first ever Coach handbag was a leather shopping bag designed by Mrs Cahn.

That's right, according to a 2016 Vogue article:

"One of the first hit bags made by Coach, after the company was acquired by Miles and Lillian Cahn in 1961 ... was a leather tote, devised by Lillian, along the lines of a standard paper shopping bag."
https://www.vogue.com/article/coach-1941-bag-evolution-75th-anniversary

Bonnie Cashin worked for Coach from 1962-1974. Many of her early designs resemble paper shopping bags, as seen in this Coach archives photo:

Coach Archives Cashin totes crop.jpg

Most of her 1960s designs don't look anything like the Courier. Instead, they feature her famous turnlock and kisslock details:

Coach Archives Cashin designs.jpg

This photo of Miles & Lillian Cahn appeared in the New York Times Feb. 2017 report of the death of Miles Cahn. The caption attributes the date of the photo to "the 1960s." Two Courier Pouches appear in the Paris shop window behind them.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/11/business/miles-cahn-dead-coach.html

My guess is that the Courier came along late in the 60s or early 70s.

Here's a 1973 sketch of what appear to be Cashin designs -- Double Entry Swinger, Skinny Tote, Safari Tote -- and the #8920 "Chunky Shoulder," an early version of the Courier:

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That's right, according to a 2016 Vogue article:

"One of the first hit bags made by Coach, after the company was acquired by Miles and Lillian Cahn in 1961 ... was a leather tote, devised by Lillian, along the lines of a standard paper shopping bag."
https://www.vogue.com/article/coach-1941-bag-evolution-75th-anniversary

Bonnie Cashin worked for Coach from 1962-1974. Many of her early designs resemble paper shopping bags, as seen in this Coach archives photo:

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Most of her 1960s designs don't look anything like the Courier. Instead, they feature her famous turnlock and kisslock details:

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This photo of Miles & Lillian Cahn appeared in the New York Times Feb. 2017 report of the death of Miles Cahn. The caption attributes the date of the photo to "the 1960s." Two Courier Pouches appear in the Paris shop window behind them.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/11/business/miles-cahn-dead-coach.html

My guess is that the Courier came along late in the 60s or early 70s.

Here's a 1973 sketch of what appear to be Cashin designs -- Double Entry Swinger, Skinny Tote, Safari Tote -- and the #8920 "Chunky Shoulder," an early version of the Courier:

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The way I see it: Anything from the 60s and early 70s that is lined is probably a Bonnie Cashin, especially with the patterned or striped linings. Some styles were originally lined and then later released without lining. I read somewhere that Miles Cahn complained that Bonnie Cashin designs cost too much to produce. Her designs were more complex. So simple designs like the classic pouch should probably be attributed to the Cahns.
 
The way I see it: Anything from the 60s and early 70s that is lined is probably a Bonnie Cashin, especially with the patterned or striped linings. Some styles were originally lined and then later released without lining. I read somewhere that Miles Cahn complained that Bonnie Cashin designs cost too much to produce. Her designs were more complex. So simple designs like the classic pouch should probably be attributed to the Cahns.
That makes a lot of sense.
 
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