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Update: Paypal instructed me to return the black/brass back to the VC. However, unlike eBay, "you're responsible for any costs associated with the return."

Aaargh. So I will be out around AU $110 since I will have to ensure this and send it using EMS so it's quicker and it has signature of delivery. :cursing::mad::cursing:

Darn. I didn’t know about that as I’ve never opened a dispute; did anybody else know?

Is it different in different parts of the world? Very sorry to hear it. Better than being out for the whole amount, but far from ideal.

So I suppose this might be a reason to delay as long as possible (another time) before opening it up with PayPal, in the hope that VC will sort it out first.

Did they ever get back to explain why they hadn’t switched on the return option despite the item coming from a professional seller? I suppose once the PayPal dispute was opened they took it no further themselves?
 
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Did they ever get back to explain why they hadn’t switched on the return option despite the item coming from a professional seller? I suppose once the PayPal dispute was opened they took it no further themselves?

No, never got any response from VC other than the last one.

I think within France or maybe EU, they send a return label. Not sure.
 
No, never got any response from VC other than the last one.

I think within France or maybe EU, they send a return label. Not sure.

I think they would have sent a return label, if they’d ever got around to responding properly in time before the PayPal dispute, but they were just so slow to respond to you that you were at risk of missing the PayPal window, so unfortunately you were placed in a situation you had to weigh up.

I don’t know what happens in Australia, if in future you were to use a credit card to pay and take any disputes via the card company? Maybe it would be the same as regards the return shipping cost, I don’t know. And maybe pester VC daily by phone — I’ve always had better response by phone, or by phone and emailing to make sure it’s all in writing, than by emailing alone. But obviously it’s expensive to call France from Australia, so that’s not ideal either. So on balance you’ve probably ended up about the same amount out of pocket either way. It isn’t fair and it’s caused by VC sending out a damaged item (which I’m sure was damaged in or borrowed from the warehouse after listing) and them being way too slow to follow up on the return issue. They can be very slow with customer service so I guess it’s always going to be a risk.

The whole situation has been infuriating but I’m glad you’re getting most of the money back at least. I doubt that VC will reply usefully to you now, post-dispute, because I guess they will view it as case closed and I’m not sure if they technically have any more responsibility once it’s gone through PayPal. Possibly it’s worth asserting to VC that you expect to be reimbursed by them for the return costs, on two bases that are both valid — that it was a professional sale and should have been automatically returnable within two weeks of delivery, and they never replied to you about this, and that the item was not as described (according to their own criteria it did not meet ‘good condition’ standard with those ripped seams). Worth asserting it firmly, maybe. And that you wouldn’t have had to escalate to PayPal if they had replied in the time they stated they would. But any compensation would probably be on a goodwill basis now.

I expect you just want to draw a line under it now, though, anyway. At least you got most of the cost back. Maybe it’s not such a great platform to buy from as you’re in Australia; it seems to make resolution of any issues more expensive. Given that there is a clash between that slow French customer service and the short window for dispute.

Very disappointing.
 
Darn. I didn’t know about that as I’ve never opened a dispute; did anybody else know?

Is it different in different parts of the world? Very sorry to hear it. Better than being out for the whole amount, but far from ideal.

So I suppose this might be a reason to delay as long as possible (another time) before opening it up with PayPal, in the hope that VC will sort it out first.

Did they ever get back to explain why they hadn’t switched on the return option despite the item coming from a professional seller? I suppose once the PayPal dispute was opened they took it no further themselves?

I would argue tooth and nail to get VC to reimburse it! No way i m going to pay that kind of money for delivery! Ask VC for a refund!!!
 
I would argue tooth and nail to get VC to reimburse it! No way i m going to pay that kind of money for delivery! Ask VC for a refund!!!

Certainly I would too; I’m just thinking maybe Antigone has had enough of it, and it might be technically difficult now it’s been through PayPal. If VC want to retain both a good customer and a good image you’d certainly think they’d make fair compensation here. They’ve been way too slow and that forced her to take alternative action.
 
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I want to share the most horrible shopping experience I had with Vestiare.
In the end of September I have ordered a Hermes Kelly 28 from them. The bag was described to be in Excellent condition. I pid $9500 for the bag and additional $1000 for custom fees, as the bag was coming from France.
I have received the bag to discover that all the corners are deeply scuffed to the point you can see white color. See pictures.


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I have communicated with Vestiare and they told me to ship the bag back to them for an additional quality evaluation, which I did. They gave me the label to ship the bag to NYC.
The bag has been in their possession since 10/15, and I have not heard anything from them for 2 weeks. Finally on 10/29 they send me email with the following.

29 Oct, 14:41 CET

Dear .....,
I'm pleased to inform you that after a leather Spa at HERMES workshop, your order is as description in our website.

Kindly find attached the photos of the corner of your bag.

As a goodwill of gesture and as an apology, we would like to propose you 200,- € reduction voucher for your next purchase at our website and your bag will send back to you within 72 hours.

Would you kindly let us know whether you agree with the suggested approach."

They send me pictures showing the recolored corners of the bag. Anyone who is familiar with Hermes SPA would know that it takes very long time and there is no way it could have been done in 2 weeks of time.

I have responded that I am not willing to accept the bag that was recolored and want my money back including custom fees.

I have never heard back since and its been another week now. When I call them - they tell me they are still reviewing it and will get back to me within 48h. I've been told this 3 times already. They refuse to provide a phone number of any supervisor.

I have filed a claim with my CC company and they issued me temporarily credit. I am pretty hopeful to get my $9500 back, but they told me that getting $1000 custom fees will be hard. I paid customs fees to DHL and technically they did what they are supposed to - delivered the bag.

I am really stressed out with this, for over 3 weeks now - I do not have either bag or money. To me this is a fraud.

If anyone might have any idea on how to get back customs fees - I'd really appreciate that!

And STAY AWAY from this company!!!
 
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I want to share the most horrible shopping experience I had with Vestiare.
In the end of September I have ordered a Hermes Kelly 28 from them. The bag was described to be in Excellent condition. I pid $9500 for the bag and additional $1000 for custom fees, as the bag was coming from France.
I have received the bag to discover that all the corners are deeply scuffed to the point you can see white color. See pictures.


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I have communicated with Vestiare and they told me to ship the bag back to them for an additional quality evaluation, which I did. They gave me the label to ship the bag to NYC.
The bag has been in their possession since 10/15, and I have not heard anything from them for 2 weeks. Finally on 10/29 they send me email with the following.

29 Oct, 14:41 CET

Dear .....,
I'm pleased to inform you that after a leather Spa at HERMES workshop, your order is as description in our website.

Kindly find attached the photos of the corner of your bag.

As a goodwill of gesture and as an apology, we would like to propose you 200,- € reduction voucher for your next purchase at our website and your bag will send back to you within 72 hours.

Would you kindly let us know whether you agree with the suggested approach."

They send me pictures showing the recolored corners of the bag. Anyone who is familiar with Hermes SPA would know that it takes very long time and there is no way it could have been done in 2 weeks of time.

I have responded that I am not willing to accept the bag that was recolored and want my money back including custom fees.

I have never heard back since and its been another week now. When I call them - they tell me they are still reviewing it and will get back to me within 48h. I've been told this 3 times already. They refuse to provide a phone number of any supervisor.

I have filed a claim with my CC company and they issued me temporarily credit. I am pretty hopeful to get my $9500 back, but they told me that getting $1000 custom fees will be hard. I paid customs fees to DHL and technically they did what they are supposed to - delivered the bag.

I am really stressed out with this, for over 3 weeks now - I do not have either bag or money. To me this is a fraud.

If anyone might have any idea on how to get back customs fees - I'd really appreciate that!

And STAY AWAY from this company!!!

It sounds very disappointing for you if the bag wasn’t in the condition it was sold as. Would you be happy to share the VC item reference number? it would be interesting to see how they sold it, as another member here has recently received an item not as described.
 
Be cautious with Vestiaire Collective. They do not check their items the way that they claim they do. I’ve read many stories of people receiving fake bags (with no help or even response). I myself have received very damaged or stained items and have had to call to complain multiple times only to have them say that I could “resell the item minus commission”, which is absurd. Their commission is also very very high - they now change the commission as they please on every item - anywhere between 30-35 percent (I spoke to a rep on the phone). And they double charge for shipping - you as a buyer pay for it at checkout, and they also claim that a part of their high commission has to do with “shipping costs”. [emoji849] they are definitely on the shady side but have poured tons of money into good marketing and that’s why they are doing fairly well. If you google “Vestiaire Collective reviews” you can read all of these stories for yourself. They have many, many pissed off customers.
 
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Be cautious with Vestiaire Collective. They do not check their items the way that they claim they do. I’ve read many stories of people receiving fake bags (with no help or even response). I myself have received very damaged or stained items and have had to call to complain multiple times only to have them say that I could “resell the item minus commission”, which is absurd. Their commission is also very very high - they now change the commission as they please on every item - anywhere between 30-35 percent (I spoke to a rep on the phone). And they double charge for shipping - you as a buyer pay for it at checkout, and they also claim that a part of their high commission has to do with “shipping costs”. [emoji849] they are definitely on the shady side but have poured tons of money into good marketing and that’s why they are doing well. If you google Vestiaire Collective you can read all of these stories for yourself. They have many, many pissed off customers.

They do have unhappy customers, but there are happy ones too. I’ve bought and sold a great deal with no real issues, and have written a lot of posts about it here. There’s no doubt their customer service is not the best on a large number of occasions. At other times it’s fine. Quality control can be erratic. All the handbags I’ve bought have been authentic and in the condition described. It’s a resale platform with some protections, some risks, and variable efficiency, so you have always to proceed with caution and decide what risks you are comfortable with. Some problems perceived are down to users not recognising what VC is and what the terms of business are, some are real problems that should not occur and unfortunately people end up having a headache over sorting them out.

You don’t have to take the reselling option if the item was not as described. You can dispute it, either directly with them (not that they will make it easy, they are very slow and will always try to get you to take the option that benefits them most) or with your credit card company or PayPal.

Whether the item was as described can sometimes of course be a matter of interpretation, so make sure you get all the pictures and details you need before buying so that you have something to hold them to.

If it was legitimately as described but you don’t want to keep it you can re-list it for the price you paid, and in fact VC does NOT take commission on the resale as long as you put it back on sale within the timeframe specified (there is a button in your account). There is of course no guarantee that it will sell again at the price you paid, so you may take a loss.

If it was from a professional seller you can return it for refund within two weeks of receipt anyway. Occasionally there seem to be glitches with this (see Antigone’s experience a few posts back).
 
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They do have unhappy customers, but there are happy ones too. I’ve bought and sold a great deal with no real issues, and have written a lot of posts about it here. There’s no doubt their customer service is not the best on a large number of occasions. At other times it’s fine. Quality control can be erratic. All the handbags I’ve bought have been authentic and in the condition described. It’s a resale platform with some protections, some risks, and variable efficiency, so you have always to proceed with caution and decide what risks you are comfortable with. Some problems perceived are down to users not recognising what VC is and what the terms of business are, some are real problems that should not occur and unfortunately people end up having a headache over sorting them out.

You don’t have to take the reselling option if the item was not as described. You can dispute it, either directly with them (not that they will make it easy, they are very slow and will always try to get you to take the option that benefits them most) or with your credit card company or PayPal.

Whether the item was as described can sometimes of course be a matter of interpretation, so make sure you get all the pictures and details you need before buying so that you have something to hold them to.

If it was legitimately as described but you don’t want to keep it you can re-list it for the price you paid, and in fact VC does NOT take commission on the resale as long as you put it back on sale within the timeframe specified (there is a button in your account). There is of course no guarantee that it will sell again at the price you paid, so you may take a loss.

If it was from a professional seller you can return it for refund within two weeks of receipt anyway. Occasionally there seem to be glitches with this (see Antigone’s experience a few posts back).

I’m sorry but honestly you sound like a fake reviewer working for vestiaire. Let people tell their stories without having to negate it with 10 additional positive” comments. This company is totally all about the money and don’t give a damn about their customers and future buyers should know this before giving up their hard earned money.
 
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Be cautious with Vestiaire Collective. They do not check their items the way that they claim they do. I’ve read many stories of people receiving fake bags (with no help or even response). I myself have received very damaged or stained items and have had to call to complain multiple times only to have them say that I could “resell the item minus commission”, which is absurd. Their commission is also very very high - they now change the commission as they please on every item - anywhere between 30-35 percent (I spoke to a rep on the phone). And they double charge for shipping - you as a buyer pay for it at checkout, and they also claim that a part of their high commission has to do with “shipping costs”. [emoji849] they are definitely on the shady side but have poured tons of money into good marketing and that’s why they are doing fairly well. If you google “Vestiaire Collective reviews” you can read all of these stories for yourself. They have many, many pissed off customers.

While I'm not a fan of VC as you can tell from my posts, the seller's shipping is covered by them (included of course in very high commission). I was able to send my bags via DHL express service which always landed the bag in Paris next day - recently I had to pay £75 for similar service from the UK to Belgium. As a buyer I pay (sorry if I'm incorrect, can't remember) - £7 and my understanding is that this covers them sending the item from Paris to me.
 
I’m sorry but honestly you sound like a fake réviser working for vestiaire.

Oh honestly, no! Goodness, I don’t think VC could be bothered to get up and do anything so much like hard work! I came on here to try to help out! Did I not post that I think VC is far from perfect? Look back over all my posts, you’ll see where I’m coming from. I think we all, buyers and sellers (most of us are both) have an interest in the existence of a useful platform, so it’s worth working out what works and what doesn’t.

I mean I sell my unused items on Vestiaire (at a big loss - hate their pricing) so I find it useful — thank goodness I think I’ve sold about everything that I want to now, and am slowing down the buying of both new and pre-owned, so I doubt I’ll be using it much more now. But I have bought quite a bit — actually really good things, I’ve been careful and lucky — and have picked up a lot about what people can do to protect themselves. I so often see people here fed up with the experience and feeling they can’t do a thing about it, but there’s a lot they can do.

Honestly, people quite often come on here really upset, and I’m sitting here thinking they needn’t be so worried because there are straightforward ways to sort it out. I freely acknowledge VC is very much less than perfect. These problems ought never to happen, without doubt, and I’m just saying we all take risks when we buy preowned. I’ve read this forum a lot and I can’t find anyone saying that any platform is without problems.

I’ve posted lots of tips on how I stay safe on VC and I thought they would be helpful. Such as asking for extra photos of details, especially with such a high-price item as a Kelly, checking out the seller, their sold items, etc., communicating with the seller before buying to get a feel for them etc. There are loads of posts here on how to do that, from me and from other people. There’s no solid gold protection against a shifty seller (or buyer, actually), a bad day in quality control, and French customer service always putting the company first before eventually doing the right thing (mostly, not always) but there’s quite a lot we CAN do to protect ourselves from poor purchases before we push the button, and ways to get our money back after it if the item is not as described.

Lots of people seem to misunderstand what VC is, and what the terms and conditions are.

I was interested in how this Kelly was sold because if it was sold as ‘Very Good condition’ (they don’t actually have a category ‘excellent’) then it’s clear that it was not as described and the lady who bought it will be able to get her money back.

Just looked at a similar one on their site and it is quite clear that if the bag was sold as ‘Very good condition’ and the damaged corners were not pictured or described, then it should have been rejected at quality control on the specific basis that it had damaged corners, which are listed as a reason for rejection of the item if described as ‘Very Good’ condition. Therefore the buyer can open a dispute: if VC doesn’t get its act together to refund, then the buyer can sort it out through CC provider or PayPal which some people find quicker. They are masters of the delay, so sometimes people have had to decide whether to give them any more time or go straight to CC/PayPal before the deadline for disputes. Once it’s a CC or PayPal dispute it’s quite likely they will stop communicating but if there’s something that’s not been covered by the dispute payout, then people might want to keep pushing. She will get her money back one way or the other, hopefully including any additional shipping fees or taxes/duties but that might be complicated.

Also I wanted to point out that if it was described as ‘Very good condition’ then it would not be acceptable for VC to refurbish it and send it back to the buyer — even if it was done by Hermès — because repair is also a criterion which VC cites as a reason for rejection of any item in the ‘Very Good’ category.

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However if it was only sold as ‘Good condition’ these factors wouldn’t apply because they don’t appear in the criteria for ‘Good condition’.

I posted lots of stuff here with the exact purpose of helping people protect themselves before buying, because VC doesn’t make a lot of it very clear. Also a lot of people don’t read through what is explained by VC before they buy, unfortunately. I tried to address the questions I had myself before I ever used them and was deeply suspicious as I had never bought or sold pre-owned before. Thought it would be useful.

I’ve quite often heard people say that VC takes commission if you resell, and that is not true, as long as you re-list in the stated timeframe, that’s all. It worries people. I thought it myself to begin with.

I aim to dispel negative AND positive myths, they both cause trouble for buyers and sellers. It’s much better for us all if we share experiences and get the facts, otherwise why would we be here?
 
I agree with you, future customers should know all ins and outs, although I don’t think that @Annie J works for Vestiaire, I believe that she is a seller on Vestiaire and probably honest one, so she has more positive and forgiving outlook. But I agree , one should be very cautious, if decides to shop on Vestiaire. They as good, as their sellers . If the seller is honest, you in luck, if not, Vestiaire as company sucks in helping you to solve the problem.
It’s like you shop privately, they are just there , to collect fees

Thanks! (Though I do hope I’m more than PROBABLY honest ;))

Most of what I’ve posted has been about making sure you work out as far as possible that your seller is ok, because although VC isn’t dishonest, it’s often less than competent.

Oh gosh, I’ve got people thinking I’m working for VC! No, I want them to work WELL for us. I haven’t had to be too forgiving because on the whole I’ve had good experiences. They actually have sorted out bad seller and bad buyer problems for me. It’s not all bad. We’re always going to hear more about the bad than the good. And the bad shouldn’t exist, but it does.
 
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I’m sorry but honestly you sound like a fake reviewer working for vestiaire. Let people tell their stories without having to negate it with 10 additional positive” comments. This company is totally all about the money and don’t give a damn about their customers and future buyers should know this before giving up their hard earned money.

I’d just like to register that threewhitefeathers edited her post after I posted my reply to it, so it may appear that my reply is off beam.

I’m not negating anything. I’m trying to offer perspective, advice and warnings.

Of course they’re about the money. They’re a business. With variable customer service, and erratic quality control. As I’ve said.

I didn’t realise trying to be helpful was going to get me in so much trouble. I wanted to post the sort of advice I would have liked to have before I used VC. It troubles me that people get into trouble if they don’t go in with their eyes open.

I’m not sure how that can be interpreted as fake.

I think I’ll bow out now; I was trying to help, it obviously went wrong.

PurseForum is my first venture into social media — think I might be starting to discover why people avoid it.
 
Oh honestly, no! Goodness, I don’t think VC could be bothered to get up and do anything so much like hard work! I came on here to try to help out! Did I not post that I think VC is far from perfect? Look back over all my posts, you’ll see where I’m coming from. I think we all, buyers and sellers (most of us are both) have an interest in the existence of a useful platform, so it’s worth working out what works and what doesn’t.

I mean I sell my unused items on Vestiaire (at a big loss - hate their pricing) so I find it useful — thank goodness I think I’ve sold about everything that I want to now, and am slowing down the buying of both new and pre-owned, so I doubt I’ll be using it much more now. But I have bought quite a bit — actually really good things, I’ve been careful and lucky — and have picked up a lot about what people can do to protect themselves. I so often see people here fed up with the experience and feeling they can’t do a thing about it, but there’s a lot they can do.

Honestly, people quite often come on here really upset, and I’m sitting here thinking they needn’t be so worried because there are straightforward ways to sort it out. I freely acknowledge VC is very much less than perfect. These problems ought never to happen, without doubt, and I’m just saying we all take risks when we buy preowned. I’ve read this forum a lot and I can’t find anyone saying that any platform is without problems.

I’ve posted lots of tips on how I stay safe on VC and I thought they would be helpful. Such as asking for extra photos of details, especially with such a high-price item as a Kelly, checking out the seller, their sold items, etc., communicating with the seller before buying to get a feel for them etc. There are loads of posts here on how to do that, from me and from other people. There’s no solid gold protection against a shifty seller (or buyer, actually), a bad day in quality control, and French customer service always putting the company first before eventually doing the right thing (mostly, not always) but there’s quite a lot we CAN do to protect ourselves from poor purchases before we push the button, and ways to get our money back after it if the item is not as described.

Lots of people seem to misunderstand what VC is, and what the terms and conditions are.

I was interested in how this Kelly was sold because if it was sold as ‘Very Good condition’ (they don’t actually have a category ‘excellent’) then it’s clear that it was not as described and the lady who bought it will be able to get her money back.

Just looked at a similar one on their site and it is quite clear that if the bag was sold as ‘Very good condition’ and the damaged corners were not pictured or described, then it should have been rejected at quality control on the specific basis that it had damaged corners, which are listed as a reason for rejection of the item if described as ‘Very Good’ condition. Therefore the buyer can open a dispute: if VC doesn’t get its act together to refund, then the buyer can sort it out through CC provider or PayPal which some people find quicker. They are masters of the delay, so sometimes people have had to decide whether to give them any more time or go straight to CC/PayPal before the deadline for disputes. Once it’s a CC or PayPal dispute it’s quite likely they will stop communicating but if there’s something that’s not been covered by the dispute payout, then people might want to keep pushing. She will get her money back one way or the other, hopefully including any additional shipping fees or taxes/duties but that might be complicated.

Also I wanted to point out that if it was described as ‘Very good condition’ then it would not be acceptable for VC to refurbish it and send it back to the buyer — even if it was done by Hermès — because repair is also a criterion which VC cites as a reason for rejection of any item in the ‘Very Good’ category.

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However if it was only sold as ‘Good condition’ these factors wouldn’t apply because they don’t appear in the criteria for ‘Good condition’.

I posted lots of stuff here with the exact purpose of helping people protect themselves before buying, because VC doesn’t make a lot of it very clear. Also a lot of people don’t read through what is explained by VC before they buy, unfortunately. I tried to address the questions I had myself before I ever used them and was deeply suspicious as I had never bought or sold pre-owned before. Thought it would be useful.

I’ve quite often heard people say that VC takes commission if you resell, and that is not true, as long as you re-list in the stated timeframe, that’s all. It worries people. I thought it myself to begin with.

I aim to dispel negative AND positive myths, they both cause trouble for buyers and sellers. It’s much better for us all if we share experiences and get the facts, otherwise why would we be here?
No matter what is your leading motivation the @threewhitefeathers is right that posting every time long comments after someone post about negative experience look like spamming negative reviews with many positive ones. That makes it difficult to find useful comments here and distracts the attention of potential buyers in VC which can cost them money.
 
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