I love the pic too—especially the leggings! I wouldn’t wear the bracelet and BTF ring together. Definitely too much competition. You would loose the beauty of the ring. Your WG Perlee Clover is beautiful. I don’t have that bracelet (yet?!) but I do have the WG Perlee diamond single-row bracelet. That could work well with the BTF ring, too, although it doesn’t have the same presence as the Perlee Clover and may be lost against the ring. Thank you for the advice on sizing. In my limited experience I haven’t found VCA ring sizing be consistent.
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I always appreciate your input. You are a trusted source. I knew we could get honest and thorough information and perspectives from you and @BigAkoya
And I agree with @AbottleofRed guilloche is beautiful on you. I always love seeing it in your looks.
@MomMomx3 and @Hiker4life
Thank you for the comment on the leggings. I love Pucci leggings (so groovy!
), and they come out with new prints each season. In case you (or anyone else) are interested, this print is called Iride. I love the colors; it's super fun. The collection is from last season, but there are still pieces around, maybe even on sale. Here is a link as FYI so you can research:
www.pucci.com
To stay on topic and talk VCA...
I thought I would share my thoughts on the Butterfly BTF ring and Frivole WG pave earrings...
I really like the butterfly ring, and I like sets. The obvious thing to do would be to get the matching earrings.
I tried the earrings to make a set, but worn together, the look was too cutesy for me (too many butterflies everywhere).
Hence, plan B was to wear the butterfly ring with the WG Frivole pave earrings for the fauna & flora theme.
After wearing those two pieces together a few times, I felt it did not quite work. Why?
Because the butterfly wings are sharp, like a marquise shape (which is also the shape of the center diamond) while the Frivole petals are round. When worn together, it felt off to me, like I was just throwing pieces on, which is not what I like to do.
Hmm, I need plan C. Plan C is... the Lotus earrings!
For those who have patiently followed my past posts, you know I am not a fan of the Lotus earrings, and I only bought them to match my Lotus ring. I never wear the earrings with any other jewelry except for the Lotus ring.
Lo and behold, I wore the Lotus earrings with the butterfly ring, and I loved the look. The petals on the Lotus flower are sharp, like a marquise shape. I feel it works much better with the butterfly BTF ring.
I just wanted to share this in case anyone has a similar feeling about the butterfly and Frivole earrings being a bit "off" when worn together.
Thank you for the comment on the leggings. I love Pucci leggings (so groovy!
), and they come out with new prints each season. In case you (or anyone else) are interested, this print is called Iride. I love the colors; it's super fun. The collection is from last season, but there are still pieces around, maybe even on sale. Here is a link as FYI so you can research:
Iride-Print Leggings
Pucci brings its bold patterns to athleisure; these leggings are decorated with the neon-hued swirls of the Iride print. Kindly note that this product, as well as many other Pucci items, is made using an allover print and it falls differently on each garment, so the product you will receive may...
www.pucci.com
To stay on topic and talk VCA...
I thought I would share my thoughts on the Butterfly BTF ring and Frivole WG pave earrings...
I really like the butterfly ring, and I like sets. The obvious thing to do would be to get the matching earrings.
I tried the earrings to make a set, but worn together, the look was too cutesy for me (too many butterflies everywhere).
Hence, plan B was to wear the butterfly ring with the WG Frivole pave earrings for the fauna & flora theme.
After wearing those two pieces together a few times, I felt it did not quite work. Why?
Because the butterfly wings are sharp, like a marquise shape (which is also the shape of the center diamond) while the Frivole petals are round. When worn together, it felt off to me, like I was just throwing pieces on, which is not what I like to do.
Hmm, I need plan C. Plan C is... the Lotus earrings!
For those who have patiently followed my past posts, you know I am not a fan of the Lotus earrings, and I only bought them to match my Lotus ring. I never wear the earrings with any other jewelry except for the Lotus ring.
Lo and behold, I wore the Lotus earrings with the butterfly ring, and I loved the look. The petals on the Lotus flower are sharp, like a marquise shape. I feel it works much better with the butterfly BTF ring.
I just wanted to share this in case anyone has a similar feeling about the butterfly and Frivole earrings being a bit "off" when worn together.
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@BigAkoya agree with all your points! I was also concerned with the chain been so flimsy but less with the flowers moving. Maybe the ideal solution is if they were to release this piece in a full bangle style (not open) in the future.@glamourbag Thanks for tagging me.
@Zixi1000 I have tried this bracelet, but I passed. First, I love love Frivole. It's the most beautiful VCA collection to me. The design of the flowers, the 3D, the angles, the hearts as petals… it is second to none.
I have the WG pave BTF ring and the matching WG pave earrings. I like to make sets, so I have been dying to get a third piece to make a full parure. Hence, I've tried on all the Frivole pieces.
My thoughts on this piece is as @glamourbag said.
I did not buy this piece for two reasons:
First, there is too much chain and not enough flowers. There is a ton of thin chain, so you mostly see the chain. The only reason why you see the flower in your photo is that you positioned it there, centered. It will not stay that way.
Which brings me to the second point... the bracelet is not evenly weighted. This means the heavy large flower cluster in your photo will always drop to the bottom when worn. When I was trying it on, everytime I even slightly moved, the bracelet rotated, and my SA had to keep moving the flower back to the top of my wrist. In real life, your hands are ALWAYS moving.
Yes, you can shorten it and tighten the bracelet so it squeezes your wrist and does not move. For me, that look will just make it look like the bracelet is too tight for you and you have sausage wrists. Link bracelets such as this one is meant to have movement, not be tight like a cuff.
Going back to the chain... do you see how thin it is and how much space there is between the flower cluster? You see more chain than anything.
Hence, it was a big no for me. Some people do not mind and they like the delicate look. That's not me. I like for jewelry pieces to stand out and make a statement. You mentioned you are also looking at the Perlee Clover. I have the WG Perlee Clover, classic size. I love that bracelet.
In case you are looking at the Frivole WG pave collection, I dug up two old photos and reposted them.
The first photo is the bracelet with the Frivole WG BTF ring, but the snapshot is taken a bit further away than your photo so you can see my arms. The bracelet looks wimpy for my preference. Even with the large flower cluster positioned at the top, you can see it is mostly chain. You do not even see the other flowers, unlike the 5-motif VA bracelet where you see multiple clovers at the top.
The second photo is just a snapshot of the other Frivole WG pieces so you can see them side by side for comparison (in case you have not seen all the pieces together). The bracelet below the Frivole bracelet is the Palmyre. My SA brought in that piece as he had a hunch I would not like the Frivole bracelet, which he was correct.
Related, VCA recently released the Frivole bangle in WG pave. I tried on that bangle style in YG. It was not yet released in WG pave, but my SA wanted me to try it on for the style to see if I might want a WG pave one. The bracelet itself is very nice, and I love bangles, more so than link bracelets. I passed on the WG pave bangle because it's an open bangle. There is a gap at the top, which I did not like.
I buy jewelry for me, so I like to look at my pieces (I love rings and long necklaces). For a bracelet, the viewable space is mainly limited to the top of the arms when glancing. To have a gap at the top, to see skin, that's not my idea of a bracelet, so I passed. You might like that open bracelet look, so if you try it just pay attention to that gap.
Hope this helps, and good luck in your decision. Jewelry is 100% preference, so if you love it, that's the only vote that matters.
I love love love Frivole. The 3D design of the flowers is pure art. I do vote to build a Frivole collection!
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@citykitty24 Thank you! I definitely would not stack it with anything besides a simple bangle or tennis bracelet (depends on if I go with the YG or WG version), if I stack at all. Glad to hear the chain and movement has not been a big issue for you. The flowers are lovely and truly amazing to admire.I have the YG version of this Frivole bracelet and LOVE it. I just picked it up last week and have already worn it a few times (including today actually!)
Mine fits me pretty closely to my wrist, so I don't find that it flips or moves around too often. The smaller flowers that sit below my wrist flip once in a while, but not too much where it would be annoying, and it has usually been when I am taking a coat/jacket on or off. While it isn't that often for me in the first place, I think it may happen less in warmer weather without long sleeves to contend with.
No, I don't find the chain too flimsy. It feels similar to my 5 motif alhambra bracelet, which I have always liked the look and feel of. However, the Frivole flowers are just so pretty...I keep looking down at my wrist!
Personally, I would not stack this bracelet. It looks great on its own and may look less polished bumping up against other bracelets. I also am not much of a stacker, though, so you do you!
You're right.
What a great review of the butterfly BTF ring,@MomMomx3 and @Hiker4life
Thank you for the comment on the leggings. I love Pucci leggings (so groovy!
Iride-Print Leggings
Pucci brings its bold patterns to athleisure; these leggings are decorated with the neon-hued swirls of the Iride print. Kindly note that this product, as well as many other Pucci items, is made using an allover print and it falls differently on each garment, so the product you will receive may...
To stay on topic and talk VCA...
I thought I would share my thoughts on the Butterfly BTF ring and Frivole WG pave earrings...
I really like the butterfly ring, and I like sets. The obvious thing to do would be to get the matching earrings.
I tried the earrings to make a set, but worn together, the look was too cutesy for me (too many butterflies everywhere).
Hence, plan B was to wear the butterfly ring with the WG Frivole pave earrings for the fauna & flora theme.
After wearing those two pieces together a few times, I felt it did not quite work. Why?
Because the butterfly wings are sharp, like a marquise shape (which is also the shape of the center diamond) while the Frivole petals are round. When worn together, it felt off to me, like I was just throwing pieces on, which is not what I like to do.
Hmm, I need plan C. Plan C is... the Lotus earrings!
For those who have patiently followed my past posts, you know I am not a fan of the Lotus earrings, and I only bought them to match my Lotus ring. I never wear the earrings with any other jewelry except for the Lotus ring.
Lo and behold, I wore the Lotus earrings with the butterfly ring, and I loved the look. The petals on the Lotus flower are sharp, like a marquise shape. I feel it works much better with the butterfly BTF ring.
I just wanted to share this in case anyone has a similar feeling about the butterfly and Frivole earrings being a bit "off" when worn together.
and how and what to pair. very helpful to curate one's collection/wishlist.
Replying to myself, I found the links and yes there is an extra hoop.
I wonder why the SA didn’t ask me if I wanted the extra hoop intact when I was shortening it. Or is that a store standard?
I’ve been thinking about passing my sweet MOP to my daughter. Meaning to further shorten it but i need the extra hoop back (she is still in elementary; room for growth).
I was lucky enough to try on some amazing pieces at an event today with my SA. The Palmyre pink sapphire bracelet and necklace felt so fluid and well-made. Here is some eye candy (not mine unfortunately!)
👋 Hi, may I get your expertise pls,
A) Onyx 5m bracelet YG - Buy new or
B) Guilloche 5m bracelet YG - preloved 2022 complete set 1 owner, original length;
Both are equally the same price, which one would you pick A or B?
It'll be 1st VCA piece. Thank you.
A) Onyx 5m bracelet YG - Buy new or
B) Guilloche 5m bracelet YG - preloved 2022 complete set 1 owner, original length;
Both are equally the same price, which one would you pick A or B?
It'll be 1st VCA piece. Thank you.
For your first piece, I would buy it new from the boutique. I personally love onyx, it seems to match everything and it is the most carefree stone. However, if you prefer guilloche even a little more, I would get that one new; the waitlist will get to you faster than you expect (unless you need it for a certain milestone date, in which case I would do the onyx, new, as your first purchase).
Def get it brand new as your first piece for the full VCA experience
Also assuming you may need to adjust the length of the bracelet to fit better to your wrist, brand new you won't have to pay for the service fee, whereas prelove you'll have to pay for the adjustment.
Thank you 😊 I would eventually get both as I'm travelling to Paris next year so would like to get a Souvenir for that trip celebrating the big 5 O👩🦳 😅
Thank you, good point. Definitely will need some links taken out. I'm actually thinking of ordering from website as onyx is available in AUS but through the SA I met both bracelet will have to waitDef get it brand new as your first piece for the full VCA experience
If you want to start building a relationship with the SA for convenience, I think it's fine to wait for the onyx, the wait time is usually quite short and most likely you won't have to worry about picking the right color for onyx, just to make sure there are no noticeable imperfections on the piece (or pieces) you're being offered. But of course, if you don't want to wait then go ahead and order from the website.Thank you, good point. Definitely will need some links taken out. I'm actually thinking of ordering from website as onyx is available in AUS but through the SA I met both bracelet will have to wait
I have the same sweet earrings in carnelian but in YG and wear with the YG hammered vintage pendant and they are great together!