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Hi Everyone,

I will be traveling to Japan next year and I'm hoping to get the Japan exclusive item from VCA. Can anyone share the pictures of the japan exclusive items? Also, I would greatly appreciate if anyone can drop me their SA contact in Japan! Thanks alot!
 
Ladies…. :hugs:

Does anyone have any familiarity with these pieces? Connectable bracelet and necklace from the late 70s.

Considering purchasing but these are definitely new to me. My girlfriend believes they are a custom one off, and she knows her stuff so I’m definitely thinking she’s right, but hoping to tap into my sisters’ knowledge here!

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Hey everybody, looking for some advice. I’m planning to buy my first 5 motif bracelet but not sure which one I should go for (Currently own the hammered rose gold vintage earrings, hammered rose gold sweet bracelet and sweet MOP earrings)

1) hammered rose gold 5 motif bracelet- this would have to be ordered and could take up to 6 months but I’m not in a rush
2) white MOP in YG 5 motif bracelet

The rose gold is definitely a harder material and would be carefree to have as a bracelet but I’m not sure if it might just blend into my skin tone

Could those who have MOP bracelets share their experiences please
 
So... Toronto peeps... let me know what you think...
A beautiful VCA flagship boutique just opened up on Bloor...
I don't know if I am the only one in this predicament as I have built up my profile with VCA in Birks (since I live downtown) even after the boutique opened at Yorkdale... I didn't think much of it since I have always had great service with my SA and Yorkdale is just too far for me... I am definitely not a VVIP/VIP but I guess since I am always on the list for holiday pendants, my profile isn't too shabby...
Now... I suspect Birks will be closing their Toronto VCA "store" in the near future (same thing happened in Vancouver a few years ago after VCA opened up their standalone store).
I am devastated that I have to start from 0 with VCA...
Anyway... just a bit disheartening after years of purchase... now having to rebuild a purchase history.... sigh...

Thanks for "listening"... rant over...
I’m having the same predicament. Even though I don’t have a high purchasing history, I do have a great relationship with my SA in yorkdale and was offered the HP too. Now I’m wondering if it’s worth switching over to the bloor st location as it just makes it convenient and I can make one single trip and cover all the stores (esp since VCA is neighbors with Hermes). Do you think it’s worth moving over or sticking with my current SA? I’m not one too shop too often at VCA and thought so might be worth making a trip to yorkdale once in a while
 
I’m having the same predicament. Even though I don’t have a high purchasing history, I do have a great relationship with my SA in yorkdale and was offered the HP too. Now I’m wondering if it’s worth switching over to the bloor st location as it just makes it convenient and I can make one single trip and cover all the stores (esp since VCA is neighbors with Hermes). Do you think it’s worth moving over or sticking with my current SA? I’m not one too shop too often at VCA and thought so might be worth making a trip to yorkdale once in a while
Well… you are in better situation as Yorkdale location is VCA and not under another company (in this case, Birks). You will retain your purchase history with VCA. You just need to decide if you want to start a new relationship with another SA.
My preference would be to stick with your Yorkdale SA since you already have a good relationship with her and you are on her “list” of good clients.

I am in a more difficult position as my (long) purchase history is with Birks and I have made few purchases directly from VCA. So as far as VCA is concerned, I am just a nobody with a very insignificant purchase history…:crybaby:
 
I totally agree! When I impulse bought a pair of Guilloche earrings in Vegas, that SA had said that the only adjustment was the post placement. I brought my earrings to my usual SA and he confirmed everything that @BigAkoya had written out. If an SA says that it can’t be done, I recommend finding one that is more knowledgeable and can take care of this for you because it will make them so much more enjoyable and you will wear them more. I can’t thank @BigAkoya enough.
Once the posts are soldiered in can they make any adjustments?
 
Hey everybody, looking for some advice. I’m planning to buy my first 5 motif bracelet but not sure which one I should go for (Currently own the hammered rose gold vintage earrings, hammered rose gold sweet bracelet and sweet MOP earrings)

1) hammered rose gold 5 motif bracelet- this would have to be ordered and could take up to 6 months but I’m not in a rush
2) white MOP in YG 5 motif bracelet

The rose gold is definitely a harder material and would be carefree to have as a bracelet but I’m not sure if it might just blend into my skin tone

Could those who have MOP bracelets share their experiences please
Since you already have the sweet bracelet in RG, I think adding a white MOP bracelet would add more value to your collection :smile: I love mine! It goes with everything. Just have to remember to be a little more careful with it.
 
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Once the posts are soldiered in can they make any adjustments?
I think if it has to do with the tension of the clip then I believe that you can. In @BigAkoya post, I believe that she has the clip set at a certain distance in the resting state and her tension adjusted. My SA was very specific with me in asking when I found the earrings to be uncomfortable, immediately or later and how long later. After 30 minutes I told him that I find my earrings to be uncomfortable, he said that would be a minimal reduction in the tension set and start from there, adjusting further if needed. I think when the post is soldered, moving it in the other spot or getting it changed to a longer one may be less feasible but I assume not completely impossible. I had frivole minis with a fixed post which somehow got thinned since it felt too large for my piercings. I just got an email that they are done, 1 1/2 weeks turnaround time for the adjustment and 3 weeks for the other. I agree with her assessment that they really want the earrings to be comfortable because they know that you will buy more. My SA knows that if I find these clips comfortable, I plan to buy 2 more. I am really picky about my earrings and I don’t like to notice them on. If I do, I find that I never reach for them.
 
Hey everybody, looking for some advice. I’m planning to buy my first 5 motif bracelet but not sure which one I should go for (Currently own the hammered rose gold vintage earrings, hammered rose gold sweet bracelet and sweet MOP earrings)

1) hammered rose gold 5 motif bracelet- this would have to be ordered and could take up to 6 months but I’m not in a rush
2) white MOP in YG 5 motif bracelet

The rose gold is definitely a harder material and would be carefree to have as a bracelet but I’m not sure if it might just blend into my skin tone

Could those who have MOP bracelets share their experiences please
I have both the RG hammered 5 motif and the WG mop 5 motif. I definitely wear the RG more since I wear more whites/beiges/pinks, but I also love my WG set. I wish they would make RG mop without MTO because I would get it.

Since you have the sweet Alhambra bracelet, is there a reason why you’re still wanting to get the RG 5 motif? Although they are two different sizes, they seem a little repetitive so I think you would enjoy the mop more. However, this also depends on your lifestyle and hammered RG may be a better fit since it’s more durable.
 
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I think if it has to do with the tension of the clip then I believe that you can. In @BigAkoya post, I believe that she has the clip set at a certain distance in the resting state and her tension adjusted. My SA was very specific with me in asking when I found the earrings to be uncomfortable, immediately or later and how long later. After 30 minutes I told him that I find my earrings to be uncomfortable, he said that would be a minimal reduction in the tension set and start from there, adjusting further if needed. I think when the post is soldered, moving it in the other spot or getting it changed to a longer one may be less feasible but I assume not completely impossible. I had frivole minis with a fixed post which somehow got thinned since it felt too large for my piercings. I just got an email that they are done, 1 1/2 weeks turnaround time for the adjustment and 3 weeks for the other. I agree with her assessment that they really want the earrings to be comfortable because they know that you will buy more. My SA knows that if I find these clips comfortable, I plan to buy 2 more. I am really picky about my earrings and I don’t like to notice them on. If I do, I find that I never reach for them.
Hi @A bottle of Red !
@Hiker4life is correct that even if the post is soldered, you can easily adjust the tension. The tension adjustment is adjusted through the hinge which is the part that opens and closes.

What you cannot do once the post is soldered is:
- Move the post up or down between the two holes
- Change the post thickness
- Lengthen the post (The post can still be shortened as the jeweler can just file down the soldered post to shorten).

If the post is soldered and you want to change the post thickness or lengthen the post using the same hole...
The jeweler will need to first remove the current post. This means the jeweler needs to clip off the current post, drill a hole again, and put in a new post (e.g. thinner or longer). Since the jeweler is creating a new hole, you can decide if you want the post soldered again or if you want the jeweler to put it back to the original threaded screw post design.

If the post is soldered and you want to move the post to the other hole, it's as bit more steps...
The jeweler will need to clip off the current post. For the new post in the new hole, you can decide if you want to solder the new post or use a threaded screw post. If you want to use the the threaded screw post which is the original design, the jeweler can simply screw it in as the integrity of the threads in other hole is intact for the post to be screwed in.

However... note that the original hole where the soldered post used to be is now closed. The jeweler will most likely just buff it to smooth/polish the surface. This means though your earring back will now have only one hole vs. the original standard of two holes. Hence, it will look a bit off aesthetically, so think if that will bug you (yes, it would bug me as I am all about keeping things pure. :nuts: :heart:).

Also...
If you ever want to resell, some buyers may think it's not an authentic earring even though there is paperwork. Or, they may think the earring has been altered too much and may just pass. In this case, you could ask the jeweler to re-create the original hole for aesthetics (it's just a an easy drill to get a screw hole). If you decided to solder your new post again, this would be for aesthetics only as the buyer cannot actually move the posts given it's soldered. So... you have to ask why even do it if the hole is not functional. However, if you decided to use the original threaded screw post, then yes, the buyer could move the posts to the other hole.

But..
If you are even thinking resell, why even solder the post to begin with? A soldered post will for sure turn some buyers away because their ears may not work with the height, post thickness, or length of the current soldered post.

I am probably way over detailing, but I do want to share my thoughts... :biggrin::heart:

To solder or not...
It's 100% what a person feels comfortable with. The decision to solder is more than just the "safety" aspect.
One should also consider the aesthetic and resell aspects, especially if you are the type of person who resells your pieces.

For me...I buy jewelry for my own enjoyment so I never think about resell. However, a top priority of mine is to have the piece stay true to the original design. As I mentioned earlier, I'm a purist. Hence, I do not like to do extra ajustments to alter the design. My posts are not soldered.

Again though, it's 100% preference based on your priorities as to why you want to solder or not.
Just my two cents. Hope this helps.

ETA: I want to add... if you live in NYC or can visit there and need your earring tension adjusted often, it would be worth it to go to VCA NYC to get them "measured" using the micrometer tool I mentioned in an earlier post. This way, when you buy new earrings, your SA can write down the exact tension spacing (in mms) needed for adjustment so there's no back and forth. The tool may now be in other cities, so check with your local SA first before taking the hike to NYC (I don't live near a VCA).
 
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Ladies…. :hugs:

Does anyone have any familiarity with these pieces? Connectable bracelet and necklace from the late 70s.

Considering purchasing but these are definitely new to me. My girlfriend believes they are a custom one off, and she knows her stuff so I’m definitely thinking she’s right, but hoping to tap into my sisters’ knowledge here!

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I have both the RG hammered 5 motif and the WG mop 5 motif. I definitely wear the RG more since I wear more whites/beiges/pinks, but I also love my WG set. I wish they would make RG mop without MTO because I would get it.

Since you have the sweet Alhambra bracelet, is there a reason why you’re still wanting to get the RG 5 motif? Although they are two different sizes, they seem a little repetitive so I think you would enjoy the mop more. However, this also depends on your lifestyle and hammered RG may be a better fit since it’s more durable.
Thank you for the advice! Forgot to mention the sweet RG bracelet is with the single motif only not the 6 motif

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