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Yes! That’s the one! I have to say I have recently become more interested in certain designs that I don’t often see here. Like this ring. I wonder if anyone has tried this in store and has pics? View attachment 5203929
I was looking at this collection the other day and remember saying to myself: oh I am not hating it :nuts::giggle:
 
I was looking at this collection the other day and remember saying to myself: oh I am not hating it :nuts::giggle:
I tried the buton d’or dangling earrings and they’re on my list to get. I didn’t bc I wasn’t sure about the weight/comfort — I have temperamental and somewhat chubby ear lobes. But, with @BigAkoya ’s suggestions for making earrings comfy, they’re still in the running. Last summer I think the price was 34K usd for the earrings. My SA also sent me a photo of his colleague pictured with the bracelet
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I just discovered this gorgeous :girlsigh: necklace.

Any owners have pictures to share :flowers:

@hers4eva @eternallove4bag
Found it! I knew I saw it earlier... Here is the link to @chiaoapple 's awesome necklace!
@chiaoapple anymore mod shots? perhaps in turquoise? :nuts::heart:

 
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Funny you mentioned Zip... I have a few stories to add to this fun topic...

True story... I was trying on a Zip for fun (SA brought it out from the back). SA told me the Zip was sold to a father who purchased it for his daughter's 16th birthday. The father was doing a big birthday bash event for her Sweet 16. For the party favors to be given to the guests, he ordered Vintage Alhambra pendants. :shocked:

Another true story... I was wearing my emerald ring and earring set one day. SA commented on them, and we started talking about emeralds. SA says since you appreciate fine emeralds, I want to show you an emerald and diamond necklace that was commissioned by a client. SA says you can't try it on or touch it. The client is very very picky about who handles her pieces. I told the SA I'm not even going to breathe when you show it to me... I might exhale and fog it up! :nuts: Wow... the necklace was so gorgeous.
VIPs get their pieces hand delivered to their house.

What perks do VIPs get? One final story... my friend is a VIP at another luxury brand (not VCA).
For her birthday, the luxury brand invited her and her husband to Paris for a weekend. The first night, they were driven to the luxury brand's flagship Paris boutique. The Paris boutique closed early for her and threw her a birthday party. The luxury brand paid for everything... airplane tickets to Paris (my friend lives in the US), hotel, meals at restaurants, limo & driver at her disposal for the weekend, etc...

This is the stuff of VIPs... I can't even make this stuff up it's so over the top.

All that said, for me, the gifts and perks are nice, but they are really not necessary. In a way, I feel too many gifts and perks create a sense of needed reciprocity, as in... I now feel a bond and obligation to buy from the SA and to keep buying the brand.
I buy from other luxury brands, and through the years, there were some luxury brands I went nuts over. The SA would send me photos of new items and let me have first dibs. I would get invited to events, lunches, and dinners (which I turned down). I would get gifts (I kept those! :biggrin:). The SA would "think of me first." However, there were times I felt I had to return that thoughtfulness with a purchase. It happened to me with one particular Chanel SA. Anyone who buys from Chanel knows Chanel gets new stock all the time, every season. I got too wrapped up, and I literally purchased something every two weeks from that SA. The good thing is I finally realized it, smacked myself on the head, and I woke up. I even stopped going to that SA to start over clean. Full disclosure, I did that with another SA as well (I'm a slow learner, but I do learn!).

From those experiences, I told myself I will never let myself get too close to a SA. The SA is not my best friend, and these are business transactions, albeit luxury transactions. I don't want to get caught up in the allure. I don't want the dinners, events, perks because by accepting them, for me, I feel a sense of obligation to make a future purchase. Truth be told, that is the only reason why any of us are given gifts and perks... the SA and the brand wants us to continue to buy from them.

This is just me... I'm very low profile when buying at the boutiques. Don't whine and dine me, no champagne, no food (I will however, take the chocolates To-Go as hubby loves them and I banned him from coming :biggrin:). For me, I want to stay focused on the jewelry. In a way, some SAs appreciate the simple transaction. SAs are sellers, and all sellers dream of no effort sales transactions.

Yes, we are talking here about the fun and wonderful gifts and perks when purchasing luxury items. However, put aside all the fun gifts and perks, even the brand name, and "buy what you truly love." That phrase has been said here a million times, but I think it's even more relevant in this context of not getting caught up in the allure of luxury purchases and all the freebies. Of course, my friend loves all the perks, so everyone is different. :biggrin:

Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to share my thoughts and experiences and hope it was helpful to some of you.
Very wise thoughts @BigAkoya !

Can a 16 yr old even appreciate such a necklace? Omg what if they lose it?! (I lost so much stuff as a teen lol)
 
I tried the buton d’or dangling earrings and they’re on my list to get. I didn’t bc I wasn’t sure about the weight/comfort — I have temperamental and somewhat chubby ear lobes. But, with @BigAkoya ’s suggestions for making earrings comfy, they’re still in the running. Last summer I think the price was 34K usd for the earrings. My SA also sent me a photo of his colleague pictured with the bracelet
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Ok the earrings are Gorgeous!!!
 
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Very wise thoughts @BigAkoya !

Can a 16 yr old even appreciate such a necklace? Omg what if they lose it?! (I lost so much stuff as a teen lol)
I know! Plus, in my humble opinion... while the Zip is iconic VCA, when I tried it on, it was so huge. I was actually thinking it would amazing as a bracelet, but nope... too big also. I had always thought I loved that necklace and that would be a dream piece, but nope... it's out of my system...thanks VCA, but I'll pass. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

However, the emerald and diamond necklace... wow. It was like an Elizabeth Taylor jumbo size necklace, but only better! The SA told me it took a while for them to procure the emeralds to build her necklace. I can only imagine what other pieces this client commissions. :nuts:

In my opinion, the true VIPs are not the celebrities or influencers. Yes, VCA treats them nice as they are "free publicity" for VCA. I personally think the true VIPs are the under-the-radar billionaires who are very private, the true uber wealthy.

Okay... one more fun true VIP story and then I will stop as everyone is probably getting sick of these stories.
This story I want to share as this story is one I admire...
I know a friend who's sister is very wealthy (rags to riches wealth, did not inherit). Her sister has everything... rooms full of bling, bags, and haute couture dresses. In the family household, they have many cars, drivers, maids... you name it.
One time, her sister was going to Paris to order a haute couture dress. The French house offered to pay for her trip, including her plane ticket, hotel, etc. Her sister is thankful, but she says she would never take a hand-out, and she is going to fly to Paris in her own Gulfstream. Her own Gulfstream?! :nuts::shocked: Nope, no NetJets for sister!

Over the top?! But... this is the same sister who her & her husband donate a lot of money to hospitals and charities; the dollar amount where they have been offered to have their names on a building in a medical center. They are very private, did not want recognition and declined. They donated from the heart to truly give back and help.

I though sister was just a crazy spender, :nuts: but she is certainly spending within her "wealthy" means.
My friend says I would die if I saw sister's closet, and I am sure I would!!! :biggrin: However, what I admire most about sister (whom I have never met), is not her bling, clothes, nor bags. What I admire most is that sister lives by the mantra... "To whom much is given, much is expected." Which made me also think... wealth is relative, and in a sense, we are all here wealthy and blessed in our own way. :smile:

Final fun note... OMG... I was following along (via my friend) the sister's new Gulfstream (she ordered a G6). Talk about custom designing your own jet! It's like building a house, albeit a super expensive mansion house... custom Italian marble, designer leather seats, hand carved tables. Except you don't go to a showroom and pick out the type of countertop you want; you fly to Italy to pick out your marble slab. One can only dream of such a fun project. :nuts:

I hope some of you enjoyed this fun story. I'll zip it for now so we can stay on topic, promise.
 
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I know! Plus, in my humble opinion... while the Zip is iconic VCA, when I tried it on, it was so huge. I was actually thinking it would amazing as a bracelet, but nope... too big also. I had always thought I loved that necklace and that would be a dream piece, but nope... it's out of my system...thanks VCA, but I'll pass. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

However, the emerald and diamond necklace... wow. It was like an Elizabeth Taylor jumbo size necklace, but only better! The SA told me it took a while for them to procure the emeralds to build her necklace. I can only imagine what other pieces this client commissions. :nuts:

In my opinion, the true VIPs are not the celebrities or influencers. Yes, VCA treats them nice as they are "free publicity" for VCA. I personally think the true VIPs are the under-the-radar billionaires who are very private, the true uber wealthy.

Okay... one more fun true VIP story and then I will stop as everyone is probably getting sick of these stories.
This story I want to share as this story is one I admire...
I know a friend who's sister is very wealthy (rags to riches wealth, did not inherit). Her sister has everything... rooms full of bling, bags, and haute couture dresses. In the family household, they have many cars, drivers, maids... you name it.
One time, her sister was going to Paris to order a haute couture dress. The French house offered to pay for her trip, including her plane ticket, hotel, etc. Her sister is thankful, but she says she would never take a hand-out, and she is going to fly to Paris in her own Gulfstream. Her own Gulfstream?! :nuts::shocked: Nope, no NetJets for sister!

Over the top?! But... this is the same sister who her & her husband donate a lot of money to hospitals and charities; the dollar amount where they have been offered to have their names on a building in a medical center. They are very private, did not want recognition and declined. They donated from the heart to truly give back and help.

I though sister was just a crazy spender, :nuts: but she is certainly spending within her "wealthy" means.
My friend says I would die if I saw sister's closet, and I am sure I would!!! :biggrin: However, what I admire most about sister (whom I have never met), is not her bling, clothes, nor bags. What I admire most is that sister lives by the mantra... "To whom much is given, much is expected." Which made me also think... wealth is relative, and in a sense, we are all here wealthy and blessed in our own way. :smile:

Final fun note... OMG... I was following along (via my friend) the sister's new Gulfstream (she ordered a G6). Talk about custom designing your own jet! It's like building a house, albeit a super expensive mansion house... custom Italian marble, designer leather seats, hand carved tables. Except you don't go to a showroom and pick out the type of countertop you want; you fly to Italy to pick out your marble slab. One can only dream of such a fun project. :nuts:

I hope some of you enjoyed this fun story. I'll zip it for now so we can stay on topic, promise.

I love your VIP stories! I am pretty happy with my life as it is, but it’s fun to hear about the VIPs; and, it makes me feel frugal and virtuous from a retail perspective lol. Thank you for sharing the stories!

DH and I are somewhat stalled/delayed for the past nine months on getting approval for our gut renovation of our second apt, a prewar condo that was a covid deal. The board has finally decided to allow us to split the electrical issues from the rest of the renovation. We’re so exhausted by the whole thing (we have a team of architect, interior designer, mechanical and other engineer, lighting designer, and a landscape architectural firm — since we have about 1100 sq ft of outdoor space) that the thought of flying to Italy to pick out a marble slab sounds like torture. I personally hate picking out things like fixtures and stone. even going to the stone places with architect and interior designer made my eyes glaze over. (DH is the opposite and loves details like that). It does make picking out RTW or jewelry, even something like the Liane, seem more fun, and even reasonable by comparison Lol.

By the way, I normally dislike two tone jewelry mainly bc I grew up with two tone Rolex watches being the thing. But the buton d’or in mixed two tone gold and diamonds somehow looks right to me:) (shrugs)
 
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I know! Plus, in my humble opinion... while the Zip is iconic VCA, when I tried it on, it was so huge. I was actually thinking it would amazing as a bracelet, but nope... too big also. I had always thought I loved that necklace and that would be a dream piece, but nope... it's out of my system...thanks VCA, but I'll pass. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

However, the emerald and diamond necklace... wow. It was like an Elizabeth Taylor jumbo size necklace, but only better! The SA told me it took a while for them to procure the emeralds to build her necklace. I can only imagine what other pieces this client commissions. :nuts:

In my opinion, the true VIPs are not the celebrities or influencers. Yes, VCA treats them nice as they are "free publicity" for VCA. I personally think the true VIPs are the under-the-radar billionaires who are very private, the true uber wealthy.

Okay... one more fun true VIP story and then I will stop as everyone is probably getting sick of these stories.
This story I want to share as this story is one I admire...
I know a friend who's sister is very wealthy (rags to riches wealth, did not inherit). Her sister has everything... rooms full of bling, bags, and haute couture dresses. In the family household, they have many cars, drivers, maids... you name it.
One time, her sister was going to Paris to order a haute couture dress. The French house offered to pay for her trip, including her plane ticket, hotel, etc. Her sister is thankful, but she says she would never take a hand-out, and she is going to fly to Paris in her own Gulfstream. Her own Gulfstream?! :nuts::shocked: Nope, no NetJets for sister!

Over the top?! But... this is the same sister who her & her husband donate a lot of money to hospitals and charities; the dollar amount where they have been offered to have their names on a building in a medical center. They are very private, did not want recognition and declined. They donated from the heart to truly give back and help.

I though sister was just a crazy spender, :nuts: but she is certainly spending within her "wealthy" means.
My friend says I would die if I saw sister's closet, and I am sure I would!!! :biggrin: However, what I admire most about sister (whom I have never met), is not her bling, clothes, nor bags. What I admire most is that sister lives by the mantra... "To whom much is given, much is expected." Which made me also think... wealth is relative, and in a sense, we are all here wealthy and blessed in our own way. :smile:

Final fun note... OMG... I was following along (via my friend) the sister's new Gulfstream (she ordered a G6). Talk about custom designing your own jet! It's like building a house, albeit a super expensive mansion house... custom Italian marble, designer leather seats, hand carved tables. Except you don't go to a showroom and pick out the type of countertop you want; you fly to Italy to pick out your marble slab. One can only dream of such a fun project. :nuts:

I hope some of you enjoyed this fun story. I'll zip it for now so we can stay on topic, promise.

Omg please start a spin off thread of all your stories, i love them!
 
I love your VIP stories! I am pretty happy with my life as it is, but it’s fun to hear about the VIPs; and, it makes me feel frugal and virtuous from a retail perspective lol. Thank you for sharing the stories!

DH and I are somewhat stalled/delayed for the past nine months on getting approval for our gut renovation of our second apt, a prewar condo that was a covid deal. The board has finally decided to allow us to split the electrical issues from the rest of the renovation. We’re so exhausted by the whole thing (we have a team of architect, interior designer, mechanical and other engineer, lighting designer, and a landscape architectural firm — since we have about 1100 sq ft of outdoor space) that the thought of flying to Italy to pick out a marble slab sounds like torture. I personally hate picking out things like fixtures and stone. even going to the stone places with architect and interior designer made my eyes glaze over. (DH is the opposite and loves details like that). It does make picking out RTW or jewelry, even something like the Liane, seem more fun, and even reasonable by comparison Lol.

By the way, I normally dislike two tone jewelry mainly bc I grew up with two tone Rolex watches being the thing. But the buton d’or in mixed two tone gold and diamonds somehow looks right to me:smile: (shrugs)
They look right indeed! I love two tone as I can never decide on the jewellery and it fits all! Off I go to VCA website to check the collection out! :panic::panic:
 
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