VCA ~ Van Cleef Arpels Discussion thread!

[Jinsun]

For anyone who’s interested, here’s what it looks like.
Also i take back what I said about the vintage. Diamonds show fluorescence as well.
But I am not sure if it’s considered faint or strong.

 

[nicole0612]

How do you all feel about diamond fluorescent?
I just noticed the loop we have has a uv light. So I was curious and checked out my pave pieces. My small lotus clips have a few strong fluorescent diamonds. And the slightly larger center stones both show a strong fluorescent.

Fluorescent is usually NOT a good thing from what I know, BUT if you're not under UV light, it probably won't matter. I have to say I am surprised and disappointed though, given VC&A prices and quality. Now I'm curious about my pieces from VC&A.

I know from a Cartier thread that some Cartier diamonds show fluorescence as well. I have not checked my diamond pieces from either brand, but I think they select from a tub of diamonds in a general spec range and don’t bother about the degree of fluorescence. Personally, fluorescence does not trouble me, unless I was buying a piece with a large enough diamond that any significant portion of the value is in the diamond itself instead of just in the brand and design. If the diamonds were lower color or clarity that would be an issue for me.

 

[Jinsun]

I know from a Cartier thread that some Cartier diamonds show fluorescence as well. I have not checked my diamond pieces from either brand, but I think they select from a tub of diamonds in a general spec range and don’t bother about the degree of fluorescence. Personally, fluorescence does not trouble me, unless I was buying a piece with a large enough diamond that any significant portion of the value is in the diamond itself instead of just in the brand and design. If the diamonds were lower color or clarity that would be an issue for me.

I was curious what cartier owners had to say so I did a search. Was it the JUC thread someone posted about?

 

[prettychic]

I was told that diamonds with fluorescence are actually enhanced and show less color if they are H or worse, but D,E,F,G look worse (meaning more color like yellowy), if fluorescence is present. I certainly am surprised that VCA would use those stones if all their diamonds are D,E, and F. I especially don't like that they are mixed in one piece. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I will buy a loop now.

 

[nicole0612]

I was curious what cartier owners had to say so I did a search. Was it the JUC thread someone posted about?

I honestly can’t remember, but it would have been within the last few days!

 

[nicole0612]

I was told that diamonds with fluorescence are actually enhanced and show less color if they are H or worse, but D,E,F,G look worse (meaning more color like yellowy), if fluorescence is present. I certainly am surprised that VCA would use those stones if all their diamonds are D,E, and F. I especially don't like that they are mixed in one piece. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I will buy a loop now.

Sometimes diamonds with a high color (VCA range) can look more milky with strong fluorescence, but only sometimes, not frequently. You just have to see the diamond to evaluate this, and I’m certain they would not select diamonds that look milky. Diamonds can fluoresce various colors (by far the most commonly will be blue, then yellow). I have never seen VCA or Cartier jewelry fluoresce other than blue.

 

[mocktail]

I honestly can’t remember, but it would have been within the last few days!

This is the recent thread I saw: https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/fell-down-reg-juc-stay-with-it-or-sth-else.1038653/post-34294299

 

[Jinsun]

This is the recent thread I saw: https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/fell-down-reg-juc-stay-with-it-or-sth-else.1038653/post-34294299

Thanks, that’s the thread I found.

 

[nicole0612]

This is the recent thread I saw: https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/fell-down-reg-juc-stay-with-it-or-sth-else.1038653/post-34294299

Thanks, that’s the thread I found.

That’s the one

 

[honhon]

How do you all feel about diamond fluorescent?
I just noticed the loop we have has a uv light. So I was curious and checked out my pave pieces. My small lotus clips have a few strong fluorescent diamonds. And the slightly larger center stones both show a strong fluorescent.

hmmm.....interesting......good to know vca does this, or anybody else too, even cartier. thank you for bringing this up. btw i don't like how your alhambra photos are showing up those random fluorescent ones they do affect the light refraction that should be in craftsmen's designing when this piece was being put together. i would definitely bring it up to vca. as for the lotus piece if i were vca i might tell you that it was done intensionally as it could make sense by putting this particular stone as its center piece......its how you look at it. good luck

 

[jenaps]

Why is the VCA thread down!?

 

[jenaps]

Why is the VCA thread down!?

 

[cmadtmifyb0623]

Forgive me if I’m posting this in the wrong thread, I searched for a little bit and didn’t really find a dedicated thread for Alhambra sizing but for those who have Cartier Love bracelets specifically size 17, how many links did you have removed on the vintage Alhambra bracelet? My wrist measures 15-15.25 ish. I did try on the malachite and was large but passed on it since I had just purchased 2 Love bracelets the day before so I had to be good but now it’s all I can think about lol. Thanks in advance!

 

[JEPT]

Forgive me if I’m posting this in the wrong thread, I searched for a little bit and didn’t really find a dedicated thread for Alhambra sizing but for those who have Cartier Love bracelets specifically size 17, how many links did you have removed on the vintage Alhambra bracelet? My wrist measures 15-15.25 ish. I did try on the malachite and was large but passed on it since I had just purchased 2 Love bracelets the day before so I had to be good but now it’s all I can think about lol. Thanks in advance!

I have JUC in size 16 (which means I would probably have LOVE in size 17) - and in my Vintage Alhambra bracelet I had 3 links removed. It still sits a bit loose but i like it so. Hope this helps!

 

[cmadtmifyb0623]

I have JUC in size 16 (which means I would probably have LOVE in size 17) - and in my Vintage Alhambra bracelet I had 3 links removed. It still sits a bit loose but i like it so. Hope this helps!

Thank you!! This helps a lot! That sounds about right since the ones I hear who had 4 links taken out have much smaller wrists and would be too tight for my liking so 3 sounds perfect! (: