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Thank you!! This helps a lot! That sounds about right since the ones I hear who had 4 links taken out have much smaller wrists and would be too tight for my liking so 3 sounds perfect! (:
Taking three links out will mean different spacing between your motifs, though. There are 4 sections between the 5 motifs, so if they take a link out of three sections, one section will be longer than the other three. That may not bother you, but I wanted to be sure you understood it. It would definitely bother me.
 
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How do you all feel about diamond fluorescent?
I just noticed the loop we have has a uv light. So I was curious and checked out my pave pieces. My small lotus clips have a few strong fluorescent diamonds. And the slightly larger center stones both show a strong fluorescent.

I was told that diamonds with fluorescence are actually enhanced and show less color if they are H or worse, but D,E,F,G look worse (meaning more color like yellowy), if fluorescence is present. I certainly am surprised that VCA would use those stones if all their diamonds are D,E, and F. I especially don't like that they are mixed in one piece. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I will buy a loop now.

I think blue fluorescence is a beautiful natural phenomenon, and I actually love it! The market currently values them lower than stones without it, but that was not always the case.

In regard to diamond color, when UV light is present, it can make lower color diamonds appear slightly whiter. Most fluorescence has no negative effects on high color diamonds. In actuality, they can be a great buy since there is currently a discount in colorless stones with fluorescence. I would be careful about avoiding stones with low clarity and fluorescence, because that is sometimes a problem. But in high color/clarity stones, rarely is it a problem in faint, medium, or even strong. I'd be more careful to have the jeweler or an appraiser evaluate a very strong fluorescent stone to be sure it wasn't hazy/milky. I once had a G color diamond with strong fluorescence and it was very white!

You likely would never even know if the diamonds in VCA pieces have fluorescence unless you shine a UV light directly on them. It has never crossed my mind to do that, but now I am curious! It does not bother me at all.
 
Taking three links out will mean different spacing between your motifs, though. There are 4 sections between the 5 motifs, so if they take a link out of three sections, one section will be longer than the other three. That may not bother you, but I wanted to be sure you understood it. It would definitely bother me.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I think by 3 links she meant 3 links/pairs so 3x2=6 actual pieces is how I understood it. I don’t think VCA would take out an uneven amount of links anyways but again I may be wrong. Because yes that would bother me or I wouldn’t even alter the piece at all.

Now that I type this out now I’m confused even more lol. So are you saying you either take out 4 links only no less?? Ugh lol
 
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Hello all. I am considering my next VCA purchase which should be a ring (Alhambra, Frivole, or somehting else). It's for my right hand where I always wear my YG JUC, and sometimes paired with YG MOP Alhambra 5-motiv bracelet. I love the YG MOP ring but my concern is the wearability - especially at this time with lots of hand sanitizer... So perhaps not the best idea. I could consider the diamond version but I prefer diamonds in white gold, and I feel like the wrist combo needs yellow gold to match. Thank you for any ideas or comments (even from other brands). I love reading this forum!
Here is my little VCA collection so you get the idea of what I would be matching the ring with :smile:

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Love your selections!
 
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Forgive me if I’m posting this in the wrong thread, I searched for a little bit and didn’t really find a dedicated thread for Alhambra sizing but for those who have Cartier Love bracelets specifically size 17, how many links did you have removed on the vintage Alhambra bracelet? My wrist measures 15-15.25 ish. I did try on the malachite and was large but passed on it since I had just purchased 2 Love bracelets the day before so I had to be good but now it’s all I can think about lol. Thanks in advance!
I have the love 17 and had 4 links removed from my VCA Alhambra. I want my bracelets to fit tight. Now I know it may be trickier to put them on but I’d rather them fit the way I like.
 
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Hi! Not sure if you’re still looking for an answer, but I wear size 16 loves and 15 JUC. I was trying on various VCA bracelets, including the single row diamond perlee, last month and debating what to get and the three VCA bracelets in this pic are all XS. The three bracelets closest to my elbow are mine. All the XS VCA bracelets perfectly with size 16 love. My wrist measures just under 14”. Hope this helps!
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What a lovely collection! Can you tell me what size your pave Kelly bracelet is, and how it compares to the size 15 JUC and 16 Love?
 
What a lovely collection! Can you tell me what size your pave Kelly bracelet is, and how it compares to the size 15 JUC and 16 Love?
Hi, thank you! Mine is the small size for both Kellys, they sit a little bit bigger than the 16 loves but stack pretty well next to them. I would say they’re probably between a 16 and 17 love. I’ve worn them all in a stack before and it’s pretty unnoticeable the size difference.
 
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Yes, they have started giving out the red envelopes. My SA texted me last Wednesday saying that I can collect the red envelopes from the boutique.
I picked mine up already. This year they no longer have the Chinese zodiac animal theme and have done simple flowers — which is a bit disappointing but definitely more practical as I can use them beyond this CNY occasion (or otherwise wait 12 years...)
 
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think by 3 links she meant 3 links/pairs so 3x2=6 actual pieces is how I understood it. I don’t think VCA would take out an uneven amount of links anyways but again I may be wrong. Because yes that would bother me or I wouldn’t even alter the piece at all.

Now that I type this out now I’m confused even more lol. So are you saying you either take out 4 links only no less?? Ugh lol

I actually meant three links (which is around 1,5cm in total, basically removing three sections of three loops each).
It is true that the bracelet then has “uneven” length in between two motifs but they balance it. At first I also thought it would bother me but honestly I forgot all about it. You don’t really see this when you are wearing the bracelet. This is standard thing when you need to remove length, the SA told me. If you can live with four removals it’s better of course
 
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I tried on some YG VA bracelets including guilloché, blue agate and malachite but was underwhelmed, can’t tell why maybe my skin tone. I’m Asian with yellow undertone, on other Asian fellows I find malachite beautiful but on me it seems off. What do you think?
Maybe I’ll end up getting onyx to match with my pendant.

You have a gorgeous skin tone and I think these bracelets look fab on you!! I particularly like the blue agate. But you can never go wrong with onyx!! I like to have matched sets, so I always match necklaces to bracelets.
 
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I actually meant three links (which is around 1,5cm in total, basically removing three sections of three loops each).
It is true that the bracelet then has “uneven” length in between two motifs but they balance it. At first I also thought it would bother me but honestly I forgot all about it. You don’t really see this when you are wearing the bracelet. This is standard thing when you need to remove length, the SA told me. If you can live with four removals it’s better of course

Okay gotcha. Thank you for clarifying this, I was definitely confusing myself lol. I’ll definitely need to go back and try it on again to see how many I’ll really need removed. So again this may sound like a dumb question, but is having 4 links removed the only way to make it look even throughout the motifs?
 
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