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Hi! Just sharing in case this is useful to anyone. I recently asked Ultimate Jadeite about the differences in “flaws”:
Stone lines:
With regards to stone lines, what I define stone line is a line that is either healed or unhealed - more look like lines (yes lines are natural internal fractures inside or on the surface of raw stones with some depth). We always try to find parts that has less lines to carve the bangles out. We try to avoid parts that has obvious flaws or weak points on the bangle. It takes some time to position a bangle on slices of stones after the boulder is sliced. But still there may still be stone lines that we are not able to avoid. But if a stone line lie horizontally along the bangle is safer than a line that lies vertically end to end of the bangle because the bangle is broken vertically.
Stone veins:
Stone veins I define is more natural and safer than stone lines (veins are more like wavy lines, running so naturally and usually don’t have openings). But some veins have little openings just on the surface, along the pattern of some little patches). They don’t usually affect the durability of the bangle yet it depends on nature and position of them.
Color lines:
Color lines I define is lines that had been healed with other elements thus they turned out color lines, usually are darker brownish lines.
Stone lines:
With regards to stone lines, what I define stone line is a line that is either healed or unhealed - more look like lines (yes lines are natural internal fractures inside or on the surface of raw stones with some depth). We always try to find parts that has less lines to carve the bangles out. We try to avoid parts that has obvious flaws or weak points on the bangle. It takes some time to position a bangle on slices of stones after the boulder is sliced. But still there may still be stone lines that we are not able to avoid. But if a stone line lie horizontally along the bangle is safer than a line that lies vertically end to end of the bangle because the bangle is broken vertically.
Stone veins:
Stone veins I define is more natural and safer than stone lines (veins are more like wavy lines, running so naturally and usually don’t have openings). But some veins have little openings just on the surface, along the pattern of some little patches). They don’t usually affect the durability of the bangle yet it depends on nature and position of them.
Color lines:
Color lines I define is lines that had been healed with other elements thus they turned out color lines, usually are darker brownish lines.
Thanks for the info. Love jade so love to learn as much as I can.
GIA is a reputable and widely used and respected certifying lab but I think the Hong Kong Jade and Stone lab is the premier lab. Their report is much more detailed than the GIA. Sotheby's and Christies usually uses the Hong Kong Jade and Stone lab for many of their certifications. The Hong Kong International Jade and Jewelry lab also gives a very detailed report but is not as well know as the Hong Kong Jade and Stone Lab.Oh yeah no worries, just mentioning that Grade A is still susceptible to damage, just not as easily as Grade B or/and C, and yes Grade A is just as hard to scratch since it can scratch anything below 6.5-7 in Moh’s.
Also apparently I’ve seen videos of sculptures describing both Jadeite and Nephrite as pretty hard to carve (both in small and big carvings) as apparently they can chip in big chunks incredibly easily and/or just not break at all if you don’t have diamond tip carvers.
Although I do want to hear your thoughts on GIA concluding Omphacite as part of the Jade category though. I believe it deserves to have a spot due to it’s rarity along with Maw Sit Sit and looks (I believe some Jadies have both or one of them if i’m correct?)
Also thanks for the compliment
Oh yeah I’ve heard you mentioning it along with screenshots to go along with some of your bangles you’ve sent there and I’m pretty much sold on how well descriptive HK Jade and Stone Labs are. Although I would really love to ship them some of my ever growing collection of jades to them.. I actually don’t know how to ship anything to anywhere which is embarrassing!
On a side note, I decided to try and do snake knots on one of my mother’s laughing buddha since she dropped it on a floor once (luckily it wasn’t high enough to do any damage) but I had to cringe in annoyance cause of that. Results are funny, it looks like I gave him a ponytail.
Don't be embarrased cos I don't know either. My jeweler gets the certs for me before I buy it because her insurance covers the shipping in case anything happens. I am blessed to have a great jeweler who I absolutely love. I would be a wreck if I had to do it myself. I couldn't bear the wait. LOL This laughing buddha is adorable. Wow lucky it didn't crack.Oh yeah I’ve heard you mentioning it along with screenshots to go along with some of your bangles you’ve sent there and I’m pretty much sold on how well descriptive HK Jade and Stone Labs are. Although I would really love to ship them some of my ever growing collection of jades to them.. I actually don’t know how to ship anything to anywhere which is embarrassing!
On a side note, I decided to try and do snake knots on one of my mother’s laughing buddha since she dropped it on a floor once (luckily it wasn’t high enough to do any damage) but I had to cringe in annoyance cause of that. Results are funny, it looks like I gave him a ponytail.
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Thats a nice laughing Buddha and it looks great with the red string.Oh yeah I’ve heard you mentioning it along with screenshots to go along with some of your bangles you’ve sent there and I’m pretty much sold on how well descriptive HK Jade and Stone Labs are. Although I would really love to ship them some of my ever growing collection of jades to them.. I actually don’t know how to ship anything to anywhere which is embarrassing!
On a side note, I decided to try and do snake knots on one of my mother’s laughing buddha since she dropped it on a floor once (luckily it wasn’t high enough to do any damage) but I had to cringe in annoyance cause of that. Results are funny, it looks like I gave him a ponytail.
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I got a new Christmas gift from my mom natural light lavander twist carved jade bangle .Thank u so much for letting me share .happy holidays to all over you
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Love your stack of jade banglesGood morning Jadies! Wearing more jadeite today. As much as I don’t want to I may have to put a metal bail on this one. It’s a little to heavy for this green thread and the hole is too tiny for leather. Enjoying my last day of sun before another cold front comes in tomorrow
Love the lavender twist and the mint green! Both are lovely gifts.
Does anyone know or have personal experience if people's preferred bangle size tends to change over time. Excluding the obvious cases of significant weight gain or loss, do people's hands change enough through pregnancy or aging that you need to size up for comfort as you go through life, or does it vary enough by person that there aren't any hard and fast rules?
My 2020 jade wishlist item is going to be a bangle with some vivid green on it, which I imagine will be expensive enough that I'll want a great fit, but not so small that it would accidentally become a forever bangle one day. The smallest bangle I currently have is a 55 round and I can get it on and off without any discomfort or special tricks, but the smallest bangle I've tried on was a 54x49 oval and not gonna lie, I felt nervous and a bit uncomfortable taking it off.
Does anyone know or have personal experience if people's preferred bangle size tends to change over time. Excluding the obvious cases of significant weight gain or loss, do people's hands change enough through pregnancy or aging that you need to size up for comfort as you go through life, or does it vary enough by person that there aren't any hard and fast rules?
My 2020 jade wishlist item is going to be a bangle with some vivid green on it, which I imagine will be expensive enough that I'll want a great fit, but not so small that it would accidentally become a forever bangle one day. The smallest bangle I currently have is a 55 round and I can get it on and off without any discomfort or special tricks, but the smallest bangle I've tried on was a 54x49 oval and not gonna lie, I felt nervous and a bit uncomfortable taking it off.
I can’t speak for myself, but I definitely know my mother has worn a bangle herself somewhere in the low to mid 50 mms, and one thing I can definitely say is that she hasn’t worn them ever since she had me most likely cause she doesn’t want to go through the excruciating pain of getting it on/off again, that and she is already wearing enough bracelets IMO.
So I can surely say your preferred size can change based on aging since your hands do seem to get more delicate so you may want to wear bangles that are snug yet not hard to get off (not sure on pregnancy though)
Thank you so much silver mom I love the sound two make together