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My goodies from UJ arrived yesterday as expected. As it’s 30% off for orders above US$1,000, based on what I chose, it’s like getting a 2nd bangle for free and a bit more :biggrin: I mentioned somewhere earlier in this thread that my next bangles would have flowery patterns and that has happened. Here is the tri-coloured one (though I think I see 4 colours)
Wow! These bangles have interesting colours formations! 30% discount seems to be a good bargain.. but just a thought, doesn't it means they have high markups on normal days? Hmm...
 
Wow! These bangles have interesting colours formations! 30% discount seems to be a good bargain.. but just a thought, doesn't it means they have high markups on normal days? Hmm...
The markup might be higher, but at least the customer service is good and the shop owner is forthcoming about whether or not there are flaws in the piece - so you know what you're getting into.
 
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Hi all! Love all the jade posted lately, including the UJ sale hauls! There's something to be said for the peace of mind you keep when buying from a well established seller.

I bought a couple of jade bangles while in Taiwan last month. I was not gutsy enough to splurge on any really impressive icy jade, especially in an cash-only market setting, but I did pick up two cute if imperfect bangles. The first, pictured below, immediately caught my eye!

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Hello everyone,
I'm hoping someone can help me. I recently purchased a beautiful jade from KooJade. I love the piece (image below). But when I examined the piece, I noticed faint scratches on the bottom left belly where you see the white hue. I can see a slight scratch under certain lighting and I can feel it with my fingertips.

Is this a crack or a natural part of the grain? Would you guys keep the piece or return it? It wasn't cheap

Thanks.
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Hello everyone,
I'm hoping someone can help me. I recently purchased a beautiful jade from KooJade. I love the piece (image below). But when I examined the piece, I noticed faint scratches on the bottom left belly where you see the white hue. I can see a slight scratch under certain lighting and I can feel it with my fingertips.

Is this a crack or a natural part of the grain? Would you guys keep the piece or return it? It wasn't cheap

Thanks.
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This is so cute. Did they say anything about the lines? Koojade is pretty well known so I think they would like you to be happy. If it really bothers you, I would return it. Otherwise, it is a pretty piece.
 
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This is so cute. Did they say anything about the lines? Koojade is pretty well known so I think they would like you to be happy. If it really bothers you, I would return it. Otherwise, it is a pretty piece.
Thanks Silver Mom. they didn't say anything about the lines. As a matter of fact I picked this one because the other one I was looking at specifically mentioned it had internal stone lines that don't effect the jade.
I'm new to jade and I didn't know it was this difficult to find a nice piece with my OCD.
Here are some pictures, its really hard to show line/dent, I just accidentally found it because it was around that white area.
Is there away to tell whether its just a natural piece of a the jade or a chip/cracks?
 

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Thanks Silver Mom. they didn't say anything about the lines. As a matter of fact I picked this one because the other one I was looking at specifically mentioned it had internal stone lines that don't effect the jade.
I'm new to jade and I didn't know it was this difficult to find a nice piece with my OCD.
Here are some pictures, its really hard to show line/dent, I just accidentally found it because it was around that white area.
Is there away to tell whether its just a natural piece of a the jade or a chip/cracks?
Hmmmm, the line is really tiny as I can hardly see it. Do you have a jewelers loupe? I had a piece of jade that I louped after I bought it and it had stone lines in it. It did not reach the surface so I don't think it would affect the piece itself but it bothered me so much becauce I am OCD too that I had to return it and exchange it for another piece. Why don't you try and loupe it? Not sure if it is Grade A jade because in order to be 100% sure you have to have it certified which is what I always do. It will cost you a bit more but if the piece was expensive it might be worth the expense. My jeweler always provides a certification. You might ask Koojade if they would do that. If you can feel the crack on the surface with your finger or fingernail then it might be a chip or a crack.
 
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Hmmmm, the line is really tiny as I can hardly see it. Do you have a jewelers loupe? I had a piece of jade that I louped after I bought it and it had stone lines in it. It did not reach the surface so I don't think it would affect the piece itself but it bothered me so much becauce I am OCD too that I had to return it and exchange it for another piece. Why don't you try and loupe it? Not sure if it is Grade A jade because in order to be 100% sure you have to have it certified which is what I always do. It will cost you a bit more but if the piece was expensive it might be worth the expense. My jeweler always provides a certification. You might ask Koojade if they would do that. If you can feel the crack on the surface with your finger or fingernail then it might be a chip or a crack.
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I'm glad there is someone else like me who has OCD with these things, I thought i was the only one.

I think it is a crack. I checked with my loupe and it almost looks like a scratch you would see on your phone. And I can feel it with my fingernails for sure.

Ahhh, so disappointed. It was almost perfect without those scratches. As much as I like it, I don't think my OCD will allow it. The search continues.

Koojade did provide a certificate saying it would refund 10x if it turns out to be non Grade A Jade. Has there been cases where reputable companies like Koojade have sold Grade B as A?

Thanks for your help.
 
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@Silver Mom
I'm glad there is someone else like me who has OCD with these things, I thought i was the only one.

I think it is a crack. I checked with my loupe and it almost looks like a scratch you would see on your phone. And I can feel it with my fingernails for sure.

Ahhh, so disappointed. It was almost perfect without those scratches. As much as I like it, I don't think my OCD will allow it. The search continues.

Koojade did provide a certificate saying it would refund 10x if it turns out to be non Grade A Jade. Has there been cases where reputable companies like Koojade have sold Grade B as A?

Thanks for your help.
I am sure that is possible for companies to sell something other than A Grade but in order to be really sure you have to have it certified. My jeweler sends them to Hong Kong Jade and Stone or the GIA certifying labs. Even the experts can be fooled sometimes because jade is very hard to be 100% sure without testing. If it is an expensive piece it might be worth it to send it to a lab. Also even though there is a chip or a crack that doesn't mean that it is not Grade A. Grade A jade does have chips and cracks sometimes. It just depends on your comfort level whether you can accept it. If I buy an expensive piece I prefer the company that I buy it from give me a cert from somebody else i.e. GIA or HK Jade and Stone rather from their own company. The lady I buy my jade pieces from always has it certified by either GIA or HK Jade because she knows that her customers know and trust these companies. Some jade sellers get their piece certified by companies we don't know and not all labs are reputable. Where are you from? I know the Singapore ladies have a certifying company that they really like and the US people sometimes go to GIA. Hong Kong Jade and Stone certifies a lot of jade pieces too. Another lab is the Hong Kong International Jade and Jewelry lab. Your piece is very lovely. I love the bright green color! Makes me happy when I look at it.
 
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I am sure that is possible for companies to sell something other than A Grade but in order to be really sure you have to have it certified. My jeweler sends them to Hong Kong Jade and Stone or the GIA certifying labs. Even the experts can be fooled sometimes because jade is very hard to be 100% sure without testing. If it is an expensive piece it might be worth it to send it to a lab. Also even though there is a chip or a crack that doesn't mean that it is not Grade A. Grade A jade does have chips and cracks sometimes. It just depends on your comfort level whether you can accept it. If I buy an expensive piece I prefer the company that I buy it from give me a cert from somebody else i.e. GIA or HK Jade and Stone rather from their own company. The lady I buy my jade pieces from always has it certified by either GIA or HK Jade because she knows that her customers know and trust these companies. Some jade sellers get their piece certified by companies we don't know and not all labs are reputable. Where are you from? I know the Singapore ladies have a certifying company that they really like and the US people sometimes go to GIA. Hong Kong Jade and Stone certifies a lot of jade pieces too. Another lab is the Hong Kong International Jade and Jewelry lab. Your piece is very lovely. I love the bright green color! Makes me happy when I look at it.
This, I can’t stress enough how much the validity of labs and certificates count into whoever’s grading Jades as I’ve heard some few hundred posts here that there WILL be some labs that are very dishonest and will pass off clearly treated (and) dyed jade as grade A.
Also 100% agree with SM in that surfacing flaws like pits, chips, cracks, scratches, and dents are inevitable and are all based on your acceptance. I have a permanent Guanyin pendant that has a barely noticeable chip due to an accidental bang onto my jade bead bracelet which messed me up for a while but grown to accept it. (Here’s the jade mentioned.)

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This, I can’t stress enough how much the validity of labs and certificates count into whoever’s grading Jades as I’ve heard some few hundred posts here that there WILL be some labs that are very dishonest and will pass off clearly treated (and) dyed jade as grade A.
Also 100% agree with SM in that surfacing flaws like pits, chips, cracks, scratches, and dents are inevitable and are all based on your acceptance. I have a permanent Guanyin pendant that has a barely noticeable chip due to an accidental bang onto my jade bead bracelet which messed me up for a while but grown to accept it. (Here’s the jade mentioned.)

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Hi Ajadecent Angle. I did not mean to say that surfacing flaws are inevitable as I have heard that Grade A jade is very strong and likely to withstand much abuse. I do think that Grade B and C Jades are more likely to be damaged as they are treated. I have also heard that Grade A jade can be damaged if hit in a vulnerable spot. Not sure also but heard that Grade A jade is very hard to scratch. Maybe some other knowledgeable jade lovers on this thread can give us more info. Always love to learn more. Love your Guanyim pendant. So delicate looking.
 
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Hi Ajadecent Angle. I did not mean to say that surfacing flaws are inevitable as I have heard that Grade A jade is very strong and likely to withstand much abuse. I do think that Grade B and C Jades are more likely to be damaged as they are treated. I have also heard that Grade A jade can be damaged if hit in a vulnerable spot. Not sure also but heard that Grade A jade is very hard to scratch. Maybe some other knowledgeable jade lovers on this thread can give us more info. Always love to learn more. Love your Guanyim pendant. So delicate looking.
Oh yeah no worries, just mentioning that Grade A is still susceptible to damage, just not as easily as Grade B or/and C, and yes Grade A is just as hard to scratch since it can scratch anything below 6.5-7 in Moh’s.
Also apparently I’ve seen videos of sculptures describing both Jadeite and Nephrite as pretty hard to carve (both in small and big carvings) as apparently they can chip in big chunks incredibly easily and/or just not break at all if you don’t have diamond tip carvers.
Although I do want to hear your thoughts on GIA concluding Omphacite as part of the Jade category though. I believe it deserves to have a spot due to it’s rarity along with Maw Sit Sit and looks (I believe some Jadies have both or one of them if i’m correct?)
Also thanks for the compliment :heart:
 
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