Scarves The Hermès Spring Summer 2018 Scarves

[Bova123]

Thank you!!I see Mai Tai also tried a seam ripper too! Good to know that it is possible to use both, it seems. What do you do with your tags? Do you keep them? Not sure what to do if I remove them! Thanks again for the link!

I'll jump in to add my 2 cents (for what it is worth!). I have always removed the tags as I want to be able to tie the scarf in any direction without worrying about tucking or hiding the tag. I follow Maitai's instructions, using a small seam ripper and under very bright direct light...my eyes just aren't what they used to be! I keep all of my removed tags in one small H accessory box, and all of the CW tags in another small H box. I keep each receipt in yet another box. Someday I hope to join each receipt with its appropriate CW tag....in the meantime this is my system.

Now back to topic ...I agree 100% with @Joannadyne, everyone looks truly amazing in these SS2018 scarves and shawls, thank you all for posting...it helps so much with our decision making!

 

[Angelian]

I noticed that the scarves that their main color is pink don't seem to have 4 words and the JQ shawl that is the Gray/Navy doesn't seem to have a "category."
I'm sure they can come up with better categories and definitely better shortenings of those categories (MENTHE=méditerranée).

Like marietouchet said, H has not done it consistently. And when a scarf does not fit a particular CW-family (the abbreviation is also not indicated on the tag of that scarf), the correct colours are used online.

Just to be clear: menthe is NOT short for méditerranée. Menthe is a colour. Whoever is responsible for the H online content has (incorrectly) changed the abbreviation on the name/CW tag that indicates the CW-family (ME, QU, DJ, PS, VE or PU) to an actual colour.
Below an example of a tag and the corresponding screenshot from h.com that shows ME is changed to menthe (not my scarf, just a pic I saved). Hope this makes sense.

 

[Pautinka]

Like marietouchet said, H has not done it consistently. And when a scarf does not fit a particular CW-family (the abbreviation is also not indicated on the tag of that scarf), the correct colours are used online.

Just to be clear: menthe is NOT short for méditerranée. Menthe is a colour. Whoever is responsible for the H online content has (incorrectly) changed the abbreviation on the name/CW tag that indicates the CW-family (ME, QU, DJ, PS, VE or PU) to an actual colour.
Below an example of a tag and the corresponding screenshot from h.com that shows ME is changed to menthe (not my scarf, just a pic I saved). Hope this makes sense.
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All these comments about families have been illuminating. I spent ages looking at my new Cavalleria trying to spot any mint details!! You would think that for what these things cost H could get it right.....and it's not French idiosyncratic behaviour, its lack of attention to detail. I do now just give a Gallic shrug now though whenever they do weird stuff. I am still awaiting an Histoires des Carrés from last season which I emailed several times about and got fobbed off each time. I mean, how much do you need to spend to be entitled to get a teensy wee paper booklet? I love their scarves but their habits are odd.

 

[Angelian]

All these comments about families have been illuminating. I spent ages looking at my new Cavalleria trying to spot any mint details!! You would think that for what these things cost H could get it right.....and it's not French idiosyncratic behaviour, its lack of attention to detail. I do now just give a Gallic shrug now though whenever they do weird stuff. I am still awaiting an Histoires des Carrés from last season which I emailed several times about and got fobbed off each time. I mean, how much do you need to spend to be entitled to get a teensy wee paper booklet? I love their scarves but their habits are odd.

I first noticed it with the white/navy Jardin Lettré when it appeared online, thought how strange it was that I could not spot any mint in the photos. Then I saw that all the blue-coloured scarves I’m interested in all stated menthe as their first colour. Lack of attention to detail indeed, like they just don’t care at all, online seems to be just an afterthought.

Please H corporate, don’t hesitate to put the scarfies here to good use! We’ve got everything you need here to help you get the online content up to par: knowledge, attention to detail, needs as actual customers, useful suggestions, great photographers, variety of knots and models from all backgrounds, ages etc. All at no charge! (But an annual visit to the factories would be great! And a seasonal Histoires de Carrés in our mailbox.)

 

[Pautinka]

I first noticed it with the white/navy Jardin Lettré when it appeared online, thought how strange it was that I could not spot any mint in the photos. Then I saw that all the blue-coloured scarves I’m interested in all stated menthe as their first colour. Lack of attention to detail indeed, like they just don’t care at all, online seems to be just an afterthought.

Please H corporate, don’t hesitate to put the scarfies here to good use! We’ve got everything you need here to help you get the online content up to par: knowledge, attention to detail, needs as actual customers, useful suggestions, great photographers, variety of knots and models from all backgrounds, ages etc. All at no charge! (But an annual visit to the factories would be great! And a seasonal Histoires de Carrés in our mailbox.)

Hear hear!! [emoji106]

 

[marietouchet]

By George ! I think you have got it !
H , of course, did not implement the new system consistently , typical ,
Some tags have 4 words , others don’t
We can only hope for 2018aw to have a full implementation
Some sites have 4 words , others don’t

At my desktop where i type better, I think they are running out of room on the laminated tags for all those long exotic color names (Bleu Klein or Bleu Nattier) and no one understands them anyway - too subtle - so they are trying a new system
Evidence shows ...
1. Some of the 2018SS laminated tags have 3 color names, spelled out - could be 4 words for a composite color like Rose Pale - confusing
2. Some of the 2018SS laminated tags have 4 color names , spelled out - the first one might be Menthe or Quetsche (plum).
3. Some of the 2018SS laminated tags have a code + 3 color names - the code might be QU (Quadrichrome ? Quetsch ?) PU (Purplish ?), DJ (Dans un jardin?) , VE (vert ? veggie ?) one can vaguely imagine a code for each of the color families in the look books, see photos copied from earlier in this thread - taken from a store book , not available to the general public ?
A galactically consistent implementation (not !) ..
If you add a color family, then it might allow you to use shorter generic color names eg Bleu not Bleu Nattier
I am not sure the color family system has been a success based on the fact that no one here has really discussed this, noticed it, and asked their SA for an explanation and the color scheme thing works only if the customers have ready access to the look book where the color group is defined - which is not the case ?
And, oh by the way, the story book for 2018SS has been shared here, but the regular scarf book is MIA

 

[mistikat]

Totally off-topic but is anyone having trouble loading TPF on their computers? Seems I can only access tpf via the app. I used to have multiple windows open and could pop in for some eye candy when I needed an aesthetic break but can't do that now.

Please post here if you are having issues with the forum. Thanks!

 

[misspink001]

At my desktop where i type better, I think they are running out of room on the laminated tags for all those long exotic color names (Bleu Klein or Bleu Nattier) and no one understands them anyway - too subtle - so they are trying a new system
Evidence shows ...
1. Some of the 2018SS laminated tags have 3 color names, spelled out - could be 4 words for a composite color like Rose Pale - confusing
2. Some of the 2018SS laminated tags have 4 color names , spelled out - the first one might be Menthe or Quetsche (plum).
3. Some of the 2018SS laminated tags have a code + 3 color names - the code might be QU (Quadrichrome ? Quetsch ?) PU (Purplish ?), DJ (Dans un jardin?) , VE (vert ? veggie ?) one can vaguely imagine a code for each of the color families in the look books, see photos copied from earlier in this thread - taken from a store book , not available to the general public ?
A galactically consistent implementation (not !) ..
If you add a color family, then it might allow you to use shorter generic color names eg Bleu not Bleu Nattier
I am not sure the color family system has been a success based on the fact that no one here has really discussed this, noticed it, and asked their SA for an explanation and the color scheme thing works only if the customers have ready access to the look book where the color group is defined - which is not the case ?
And, oh by the way, the story book for 2018SS has been shared here, but the regular scarf book is MIA

Thanks for the info. I wish we could unlike just so H can see that they have set up a confusing color coding system. Also, they should be more careful with how they post colors and CW's (as I recall, CW numbers have been mixed up on the website quite frequently) on their websites. Don't they have Silicon Valley computer gurus getting paid 6 figure salaries to put all this up? Maybe they need to hire Fashionistas to edit their work before they hit "send."

 

[lanit]

At my desktop where i type better, I think they are running out of room on the laminated tags for all those long exotic color names (Bleu Klein or Bleu Nattier) and no one understands them anyway - too subtle - so they are trying a new system
Evidence shows ...
1. Some of the 2018SS laminated tags have 3 color names, spelled out - could be 4 words for a composite color like Rose Pale - confusing
2. Some of the 2018SS laminated tags have 4 color names , spelled out - the first one might be Menthe or Quetsche (plum).
3. Some of the 2018SS laminated tags have a code + 3 color names - the code might be QU (Quadrichrome ? Quetsch ?) PU (Purplish ?), DJ (Dans un jardin?) , VE (vert ? veggie ?) one can vaguely imagine a code for each of the color families in the look books, see photos copied from earlier in this thread - taken from a store book , not available to the general public ?
A galactically consistent implementation (not !) ..
If you add a color family, then it might allow you to use shorter generic color names eg Bleu not Bleu Nattier
I am not sure the color family system has been a success based on the fact that no one here has really discussed this, noticed it, and asked their SA for an explanation and the color scheme thing works only if the customers have ready access to the look book where the color group is defined - which is not the case ?
And, oh by the way, the story book for 2018SS has been shared here, but the regular scarf book is MIA

Thanks for chiming in MT! This is interesting. Could ME be short for Marine instead of Menthe? Especially since the scarves shown have no green in them. Just a thought.

 

[marietouchet]

Thanks for chiming in MT! This is interesting. Could ME be short for Marine instead of Menthe? Especially since the scarves shown have no green in them. Just a thought.

IMHO, for what it is worth ...
ME is either Menthe (color = mint) or Mediterranee, a color family mentioned in the look book pages I copied
I find it terribly confusing - the codes can be interpreted in 2 ways, for the most part
DJ = Dans un Jardin, surely
ME = Mediterranee (family) or Menthe (color)
PU = Purplish (family)
QU = Quetsch (plum color ) or Quadrichrome (family name)
VE = Vert (green color) or Veggie (family name)
You would think that at least one good SA would have explained this to someone, who might have reported it here
I am kind of surprised the codes remain something of a mystery, after so much time

 

[Angelian]

IMHO, for what it is worth ...
ME is either Menthe (color = mint) or Mediterranee, a color family mentioned in the look book pages I copied
I find it terribly confusing - the codes can be interpreted in 2 ways, for the most part
DJ = Dans un Jardin, surely
ME = Mediterranee (family) or Menthe (color)
PU = Purplish (family)
QU = Quetsch (plum color ) or Quadrichrome (family name)
VE = Vert (green color) or Veggie (family name)
You would think that at least one good SA would have explained this to someone, who might have reported it here
I am kind of surprised the codes remain something of a mystery, after so much time

I do not believe in coincidences and therefore do not believe all of the six CW-families just happen to match the abbreviations that we have seen on the CW-tags. It must be for a reason these “colours” that are most of the time not even present in the scarf, are always the first of four colours, the place usually reserved for the most dominant colour of a scarf? None of the scarves I have seen online that were supposed to have menthe in them, actually did, absolutely nothing (Brazil Tattoo, Panthera Pardus, Pois Optique, Petite Abeille etc), but they clearly belonged to the méditerranée family. And for example all of the “vert” scarves belonged to the same veggie CW-family, even saw one that had vert/vert/jaune vif/corail, that must be one green scarf to have the colour vert be mentioned twice! And if there are indeed too many colours to fit the CW-tag, why not change it, like they did with the caretag?
I still think that someone screwed up for the online store and incorrectly changed the abbreviation to a colour, because it’s new and they didn’t know the letters represent a CW-family. Probably going to the boutique this weekend, see if I can find an SA that is knowledgeable enough to clear it up for us.

 

[jemblebee]

Thank you!!I see Mai Tai also tried a seam ripper too! Good to know that it is possible to use both, it seems. What do you do with your tags? Do you keep them? Not sure what to do if I remove them! Thanks again for the link!

Speaking from personal experience, PLEASE DO NOT USE A SEAM RIPPER!! I did this just the other day with my brand new Tigre Royal bandana and immediately put a run in the scarf
Seam rippers place a great amount of stress on the thread and surrounding areas which can be damaged when you pull the thread against the sharp end to cut. Scissors may be difficult to maneuver but they are far less likely to cause a pull in your silk.

 

[Julide]

Speaking from personal experience, PLEASE DO NOT USE A SEAM RIPPER!! I did this just the other day with my brand new Tigre Royal bandana and immediately put a run in the scarf
Seam rippers place a great amount of stress on the thread and surrounding areas which can be damaged when you pull the thread against the sharp end to cut. Scissors may be difficult to maneuver but they are far less likely to cause a pull in your silk.

I am so sorry to hear this!! I hope the run is not too bad...Thank you for sharing this information!!

And thank you:
@werner
@Pautinka
@FizzyWater
@Bova123

For all your helpful comments!!

 

[Belphoebe]

Speaking from personal experience, PLEASE DO NOT USE A SEAM RIPPER!! I did this just the other day with my brand new Tigre Royal bandana and immediately put a run in the scarf
Seam rippers place a great amount of stress on the thread and surrounding areas which can be damaged when you pull the thread against the sharp end to cut. Scissors may be difficult to maneuver but they are far less likely to cause a pull in your silk.

I couldn't bring myself to hit the "like" button for your post (so sad for your Tigre), but I appreciate your warning us against using the seam ripper.

 

[Hermes Nuttynut]

Speaking from personal experience, PLEASE DO NOT USE A SEAM RIPPER!! I did this just the other day with my brand new Tigre Royal bandana and immediately put a run in the scarf
Seam rippers place a great amount of stress on the thread and surrounding areas which can be damaged when you pull the thread against the sharp end to cut. Scissors may be difficult to maneuver but they are far less likely to cause a pull in your silk.