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i truly hope they fix the csgm quality. i only bought the zebra pegasus and the jardin d'andalusie last season because i could not resist, but i should have passed.

sadly, increasing the cashmere percentage does not help the issues of the CSGMs, unless H improves the cashmere quality. Actually, silk is a stronger fiber than cashmere, and i own not-H silk-cashmere shawls (50-50) that are incredibly warm. soft and yet durable.

There is a LOT of cashmere with shorter fibers coming out of China, which is cheaper and feels softer to the touch, but pills and is far less sturdy than the old "traditional" cashmere. One would hope that H would get top quality cashmere, not the cheap stuff that one can find in pretty much any brand now.
 
When it comes to interesting and appealing designs, I'm willing to spend a little more time brushing my Hermes shawls to keep piling at bay and live with them however they make them.

My only experience with a Chanel cashmere shawl had to be returned in less than 12 hours due to a hole from their label and I had a Chanel SA tell me runs were perfectly normal and part of the experience.

I understand Loro Piano shawls to be wonderful but I don't know of anyone with designs like Hermes.
 
When it comes to interesting and appealing designs, I'm willing to spend a little more time brushing my Hermes shawls to keep piling at bay and live with them however they make them.

My only experience with a Chanel cashmere shawl had to be returned in less than 12 hours due to a hole from their label and I had a Chanel SA tell me runs were perfectly normal and part of the experience.

I understand Loro Piano shawls to be wonderful but I don't know of anyone with designs like Hermes.

This.
 
Quite interesting, MrsOwen3.

I bought a Chanel twill in Monaco a number of years ago and shortly afterwards stitches came loose on the rolled him. Never experienced that with Hermes silk twills.
 
the composition of the new CSGM will be 70% cachemire and 30% silk

Asked my SA last week why H changed the cashmere/silk ratio and she said so that the CSGMs will have a slightly heavier feel and a better "hand".
There could be additional reasons but that is what my SA stated to me.

Feel free to chime in with additional information, am totally curious about this too.

Many thanks for the info, sissy and Vigee! A bit heavier sounds very promising, and hoping the change might improve durability. I wonder what better "hand" means. If a bit softer, that would be wonderful. I'm likely one of the few that find the 65/35 CSGMs a little bit scratchy. I'm hoping hand washing will improve that a bit, but haven't needed to yet.
 
When it comes to interesting and appealing designs, I'm willing to spend a little more time brushing my Hermes shawls to keep piling at bay and live with them however they make them.

My only experience with a Chanel cashmere shawl had to be returned in less than 12 hours due to a hole from their label and I had a Chanel SA tell me runs were perfectly normal and part of the experience.

I understand Loro Piano shawls to be wonderful but I don't know of anyone with designs like Hermes.


+1; I have a printed LP shawl that is ethereal, and I quite like the design, but it is nothing like the offerings at Hermes. And so I try to really narrow my choices but with Hermes sometimes it's just impossible to stay away. :shrugs:
 
Good grief, that's terrible news about Bergdorf's Hermes cashmeres. May I ask if the ones you saw were the older ones or the ones for Fall 2015 and Spring 2016?


Current season...it may have been the lighting, and it may have been the fact that these shawls were out for anyone to touch or grab and play with them. They just didn't look new or perfect, like a little fuzzy layer had already started.

And please note that the condition didn't deter me from playing with and seriously considering one of them. I just wish they weren't so delicate.

I understand Loro Piano shawls to be wonderful but I don't know of anyone with designs like Hermes.


And that's the thing. In my opinion, LP makes the best cashmere, but no one comes close to Hermès for design. And even then, the newer Hermès designs I find more prettier and exciting than the old designs. So there you are!

I just wish they'd fix their cashmere. I have a cashmere-lined LP coat and a cashmere LP dress that do not pill at all - not even the armpits!!!
 
Current season...it may have been the lighting, and it may have been the fact that these shawls were out for anyone to touch or grab and play with them. They just didn't look new or perfect, like a little fuzzy layer had already started.

And please note that the condition didn't deter me from playing with and seriously considering one of them. I just wish they weren't so delicate.




And that's the thing. In my opinion, LP makes the best cashmere, but no one comes close to Hermès for design. And even then, the newer Hermès designs I find more prettier and exciting than the old designs. So there you are!

I just wish they'd fix their cashmere. I have a cashmere-lined LP coat and a cashmere LP dress that do not pill at all - not even the armpits!!!

BBC, have heard about the superior quality of LP from many sources and am hoping that H does fix their issues with CSGMs because there is no doubt in my mind that there is one especially in recent years.

My fingers are crossed for the coming F/W 15 season. :heart:
 
Current season...it may have been the lighting, and it may have been the fact that these shawls were out for anyone to touch or grab and play with them. They just didn't look new or perfect, like a little fuzzy layer had already started.

And please note that the condition didn't deter me from playing with and seriously considering one of them. I just wish they weren't so delicate.




And that's the thing. In my opinion, LP makes the best cashmere, but no one comes close to Hermès for design. And even then, the newer Hermès designs I find more prettier and exciting than the old designs. So there you are!

I just wish they'd fix their cashmere. I have a cashmere-lined LP coat and a cashmere LP dress that do not pill at all - not even the armpits!!!

actually most of their cashemere Hermes sources at Loro Piana, so the quality of it should be the same.
 
Many thanks for the info, sissy and Vigee! A bit heavier sounds very promising, and hoping the change might improve durability. I wonder what better "hand" means. If a bit softer, that would be wonderful. I'm likely one of the few that find the 65/35 CSGMs a little bit scratchy. I'm hoping hand washing will improve that a bit, but haven't needed to yet.
I only own one CSGM, Chasse en Inde, which I bought in 1987 for (I think) around $450... at the time, an outrageous sum! I've never babied it: I've used it on airplanes as both blanket and pillow, I've thrown it on over coats on snowy days, and I even used it as my "comfort blankie" during four long months of chemotherapy infusions 10 years ago. The thing is, it still looks brand new! No pilling, no thinning, the color (deep shades of navy & sapphire) has remained true, and it is even still square if I spread it out on the bed. It's never been washed or (shudder) dry-cleaned... just hung over a drying rack to air occasionally.

Sometime between 1987 and now, it seems to me that Hermès must have changed the way they weave their CSGMs, because my understanding is that one of the new ones would never stand up to the sort of aggressive wear I've subjected mine to for the past 28 years. What do you think? Does anyone else have a CSGM as old as mine, and is your experience similar?
 
I only own one CSGM, Chasse en Inde, which I bought in 1987 for (I think) around $450... at the time, an outrageous sum! I've never babied it: I've used it on airplanes as both blanket and pillow, I've thrown it on over coats on snowy days, and I even used it as my "comfort blankie" during four long months of chemotherapy infusions 10 years ago. The thing is, it still looks brand new! No pilling, no thinning, the color (deep shades of navy & sapphire) has remained true, and it is even still square if I spread it out on the bed. It's never been washed or (shudder) dry-cleaned... just hung over a drying rack to air occasionally.

Sometime between 1987 and now, it seems to me that Hermès must have changed the way they weave their CSGMs, because my understanding is that one of the new ones would never stand up to the sort of aggressive wear I've subjected mine to for the past 28 years. What do you think? Does anyone else have a CSGM as old as mine, and is your experience similar?

Wow, that is so great your shawl has stayed in such fantastic condition! I would love to see photos of how it's looking!

I have a few myself and they are showing signs of wear (mostly piling and a few tiny pulls here and there), and my oldest one is probably only 4 years old. Regardless, I still love them to death! It would be even better if they were the same quality as yours though!
 
I only own one CSGM, Chasse en Inde, which I bought in 1987 for (I think) around $450... at the time, an outrageous sum! I've never babied it: I've used it on airplanes as both blanket and pillow, I've thrown it on over coats on snowy days, and I even used it as my "comfort blankie" during four long months of chemotherapy infusions 10 years ago. The thing is, it still looks brand new! No pilling, no thinning, the color (deep shades of navy & sapphire) has remained true, and it is even still square if I spread it out on the bed. It's never been washed or (shudder) dry-cleaned... just hung over a drying rack to air occasionally.

Sometime between 1987 and now, it seems to me that Hermès must have changed the way they weave their CSGMs, because my understanding is that one of the new ones would never stand up to the sort of aggressive wear I've subjected mine to for the past 28 years. What do you think? Does anyone else have a CSGM as old as mine, and is your experience similar?

Wow, that's wonderful to hear! One can only hope the newer blend will behave more like yours! I have limited experience only having three, all purchased last spring.

Here's a link to an older thread devoted to CSGM quality issues:
http://forum.purseblog.com/hermes/cs-gm-poor-quality-657194.html
 
I was at Bergdorf Goodman yesterday and just looking at the beautiful cashmere shawls laid out together....and sadly, they just didn't look good, they all looked damaged.

Damaged!!!! In what way? How???? :sad:


OOPS! I just read the answer to my questions! Sorry!!!!!!!!
 
I only own one CSGM, Chasse en Inde, which I bought in 1987 for (I think) around $450... at the time, an outrageous sum! I've never babied it: I've used it on airplanes as both blanket and pillow, I've thrown it on over coats on snowy days, and I even used it as my "comfort blankie" during four long months of chemotherapy infusions 10 years ago. The thing is, it still looks brand new! No pilling, no thinning, the color (deep shades of navy & sapphire) has remained true, and it is even still square if I spread it out on the bed. It's never been washed or (shudder) dry-cleaned... just hung over a drying rack to air occasionally.

Off-topic for a mo'--the "ten years past chemo" part is the happiest piece of this post. Congratulations and continued health to you!
 
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