The Elusive P9 Thread

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For anyone who has a 25, if possible, could I know the weight of the bag when empty? I'm wondering if it's a heavy bag with all the leather. Thanks in advance!
 
I have the p9 40 and even empty it is quite heavy and hurts my shoulder after about 10 min. I am thinking of returning it actually because it is SOOO slouchy and things get sooooo lost and it's sooooo heavy when you start to put basic things into it like a wallet and pochette. The leather is spectacular though. SIGH. I tried on the 30 black at my local store last week and it was much more doable. Also I am 5ft 9 and the 30 was more appropriate for my taller frame. The 40 dwarfed me. LOL. The prob with the 40 is that also it is so slouchy that if you use it for travel, you can't even rest it on something like a rolling cabin bag, because it rolls right off. I truly believe the 40 is designed by men for men (with large upper body muscles, like all those football players they use to advertise them). Maybe I need to find one...
 
I have the p9 40 and even empty it is quite heavy and hurts my shoulder after about 10 min. I am thinking of returning it actually because it is SOOO slouchy and things get sooooo lost and it's sooooo heavy when you start to put basic things into it like a wallet and pochette. The leather is spectacular though. SIGH. I tried on the 30 black at my local store last week and it was much more doable. Also I am 5ft 9 and the 30 was more appropriate for my taller frame. The 40 dwarfed me. LOL. The prob with the 40 is that also it is so slouchy that if you use it for travel, you can't even rest it on something like a rolling cabin bag, because it rolls right off. I truly believe the 40 is designed by men for men (with large upper body muscles, like all those football players they use to advertise them). Maybe I need to find one...
Do you think the 30 would have the same kind of slouch? I love a slouchy bag but I can't deal with the weight either.
 
It definitely does have the same slouch. They are all amazingly buttery but very very very soft leather. Basically there is ZERO structure to the bag. My SA told me that through time, they get MORE slouchy, which I didn't think was possible. HAHA. I am planning on using mine with a bag organizer no matter what the size. Here is a clear example. The yellow clearly has some sort of support in it (like a base shaper) and the green one is the natural droop of the bag.


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I have the p9 40 and even empty it is quite heavy and hurts my shoulder after about 10 min. I am thinking of returning it actually because it is SOOO slouchy and things get sooooo lost and it's sooooo heavy when you start to put basic things into it like a wallet and pochette. The leather is spectacular though. SIGH. I tried on the 30 black at my local store last week and it was much more doable. Also I am 5ft 9 and the 30 was more appropriate for my taller frame. The 40 dwarfed me. LOL. The prob with the 40 is that also it is so slouchy that if you use it for travel, you can't even rest it on something like a rolling cabin bag, because it rolls right off. I truly believe the 40 is designed by men for men (with large upper body muscles, like all those football players they use to advertise them). Maybe I need to find one...
The p9 I believe is designed by men for men. But women can rock the 25 or 30. I wouldn't attempt the 40, so I think a return is a sensible choice. I also cannot carry heavy bags.

I'm waiting it out (months/ years) to see if there's a color combo that appeals to me and I also want to know if the p9 will be a permanent collection. Right now, the color choices are fantastic/ audacious for men, but as a women, nothing appeals to me right now, except the pink. But I have so many pink bags from various luxury houses, so it's not like I'm in a mad rush to get one. And because of the size on the pink, it doesn't work with my wardrobe because there's an underlying masculine tone to it.
 
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My P9 25 is in the brown. From a distance people may think it is canvas, but the oh so soft leather is what gets everyone. The wider strap with the shoulder piece keeps the bag from getting too heavy. I got mine from Fashionphile for about a $1000 cheaper. Some of the colors are just too out there for my taste. I can carry my bag and most people don’t know what it is and I feel safe with it.
 
The p9 I believe is designed by men for men. But women can rock the 25 or 30. I wouldn't attempt the 40, so I think a return is a sensible choice. I also cannot carry heavy bags.

I'm waiting it out (months/ years) to see if there's a color combo that appeals to me and I also want to know if the p9 will be a permanent collection. Right now, the color choices are fantastic/ audacious for men, but as a women, nothing appeals to me right now, except the pink. But I have so many pink bags from various luxury houses, so it's not like I'm in a mad rush to get one. And because of the size on the pink, it doesn't work with my wardrobe because there's an underlying masculine tone to it.
What about this one in the size 30? IMG_5881.jpeg
 
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Fully loaded my 25 is quite hefty already but it is probably “better” for me still as a guy. I don’t think a 40 or 50 is practical at all, I tested out their weight in the store and it’s insanely heavy even with just the bag cushion in them, so I can’t imagine how anyone other than LeBron will be able to actually use them in a meaningful manner as a daily carry and loaded out with stuff. Even as travel bags I don’t think they are that ideal (I guess it will be different if you fly First or private…).
 
My P9 25 is in the brown. From a distance people may think it is canvas, but the oh so soft leather is what gets everyone. The wider strap with the shoulder piece keeps the bag from getting too heavy. I got mine from Fashionphile for about a $1000 cheaper. Some of the colors are just too out there for my taste. I can carry my bag and most people don’t know what it is and I feel safe with it.
I would love to see a photo!!!
 
Given discussions regarding the size of the P9 40 being massive and unmanageable, I thought I would post some pictures of my turquoise 40 next to my other large bags. Granted, I love big bags. I like actually being able to put my things into my bags without leaving half behind and playing tetris with the remaining items. Is it heavy, of course an all leather bag will be heavy! But for me, I love it so much that it’s worth it!

So here you go. P9 40 next to a Neverfull GM, CarryAll MM, and a Gucci tote.
 

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