I have the 25. I would guess the 30 would be more infuriating just because it’s bigger?Do you find the 25 or 30 will be more infuriating because of the slouchy black hole?
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I have the 25. I would guess the 30 would be more infuriating just because it’s bigger?Do you find the 25 or 30 will be more infuriating because of the slouchy black hole?
Without the strap it weighs approximately 1lb 0.8 oz. With strap 2lb 9.4 oz. HTH😊For anyone who has a 25, if possible, could I know the weight of the bag when empty? I'm wondering if it's a heavy bag with all the leather. Thanks in advance!
Thank you so much! That strap does make a difference.Without the strap it weighs approximately 1lb 0.8 oz. With strap 2lb 9.4 oz. HTH😊
Do you think the 30 would have the same kind of slouch? I love a slouchy bag but I can't deal with the weight either.I have the p9 40 and even empty it is quite heavy and hurts my shoulder after about 10 min. I am thinking of returning it actually because it is SOOO slouchy and things get sooooo lost and it's sooooo heavy when you start to put basic things into it like a wallet and pochette. The leather is spectacular though. SIGH. I tried on the 30 black at my local store last week and it was much more doable. Also I am 5ft 9 and the 30 was more appropriate for my taller frame. The 40 dwarfed me. LOL. The prob with the 40 is that also it is so slouchy that if you use it for travel, you can't even rest it on something like a rolling cabin bag, because it rolls right off. I truly believe the 40 is designed by men for men (with large upper body muscles, like all those football players they use to advertise them). Maybe I need to find one...

The p9 I believe is designed by men for men. But women can rock the 25 or 30. I wouldn't attempt the 40, so I think a return is a sensible choice. I also cannot carry heavy bags.I have the p9 40 and even empty it is quite heavy and hurts my shoulder after about 10 min. I am thinking of returning it actually because it is SOOO slouchy and things get sooooo lost and it's sooooo heavy when you start to put basic things into it like a wallet and pochette. The leather is spectacular though. SIGH. I tried on the 30 black at my local store last week and it was much more doable. Also I am 5ft 9 and the 30 was more appropriate for my taller frame. The 40 dwarfed me. LOL. The prob with the 40 is that also it is so slouchy that if you use it for travel, you can't even rest it on something like a rolling cabin bag, because it rolls right off. I truly believe the 40 is designed by men for men (with large upper body muscles, like all those football players they use to advertise them). Maybe I need to find one...
What about this one in the size 30?The p9 I believe is designed by men for men. But women can rock the 25 or 30. I wouldn't attempt the 40, so I think a return is a sensible choice. I also cannot carry heavy bags.
I'm waiting it out (months/ years) to see if there's a color combo that appeals to me and I also want to know if the p9 will be a permanent collection. Right now, the color choices are fantastic/ audacious for men, but as a women, nothing appeals to me right now, except the pink. But I have so many pink bags from various luxury houses, so it's not like I'm in a mad rush to get one. And because of the size on the pink, it doesn't work with my wardrobe because there's an underlying masculine tone to it.

I like it, but why does it look overwhelming on the girl? 30 is not that big.What about this one in the size 30? View attachment 6128147
I would love to see a photo!!!My P9 25 is in the brown. From a distance people may think it is canvas, but the oh so soft leather is what gets everyone. The wider strap with the shoulder piece keeps the bag from getting too heavy. I got mine from Fashionphile for about a $1000 cheaper. Some of the colors are just too out there for my taste. I can carry my bag and most people don’t know what it is and I feel safe with it.