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Does your zipper gradually move backward? I received my Escale mini pochette and I’m not sure whether to return and buy another one or just keep mine. I love the print and do not mind the new lining design, but I would like the MP to fully close like my mono MP. Or am I being too picky?

Photo 1: I have to really tug at the zipper pull to fully close to cover the zipper.
Photo 2: If I close the MP without tugging hard, this is what it looks like. Or, it will eventually look like this after tugging hard from photo 1.
Photo 3: I noticed the zipper is uneven. Maybe that is why it won’t close all the way?

Does your zipper gradually move backward? I received my Escale mini pochette and I’m not sure whether to return and buy another one or just keep mine. I love the print and do not mind the new lining design, but I would like the MP to fully close like my mono MP. Or am I being too picky?



Photo 1: I have to really tug at the zipper pull to fully close to cover the zipper.

Photo 2: If I close the MP without tugging hard, this is what it looks like. Or, it will eventually look like this after tugging hard from photo 1.

Photo 3: I noticed the zipper is uneven. Maybe that is why it won’t close all the way?



The reason the zippers on this version of the MP are being wonky is due to how far back they start from the end of the bag. Do you see how on the older models, the “head” part of the zipper (the part that you pull on and it zippers / connects the two sides together) is almost right up to the very edge of the side of the bag ? It is placed right at the very end.

When the zipper head is placed at the end of the bag like the older models, the metal teeth of the zipper end and then there is that little bit of fabric on both sides that comes after it - the zipper head “eats” that little tiny bit of fabric at the end of the zipper. This allows the sides of the zippered top to pull closer together and get a more snug closure. It’s way more neat and tidy.

With the new models, there is too much of that end fabric. The zipper head doesn’t have traction with the fabric. It only has traction with the metal teeth. So because there is way too much fabric at the end of the zipper, the zipper head slips back onto the metal teeth at the end. That big gap where there is too much fabric won't close nicely. There is simply too much excess fabric and the zipper head cannot get a good grab. So it looks sloppy and unfinished and annoys us all that our bags don’t have that nice little “snatch” close that we’re used to with this little SLG.

it’s also why when the bag is more full, the puffiness of the bag will cause pressure on the zipper head and make it close a little better bc it's forcing the zipper head to press against the end more. If that makes sense. Kinda like how gravity works but more like forced pressure in this case.
 
Hi Jules626 - the new lining in escale is cheaper when compared to newer MP’s. Here’s an example from last year, and it’s so much nicer. I’m still glad they lined this one at all, as I’m keeping it. But this is what we were speaking of as cheaper and less functional.
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I see what you mean. That is gorgeous. I passed up on that MP and so was not aware of the interior differences when comparing it. Very nice piece. They definitely could have done that here too and I see how that would be viewed as this season's being cheaper !
 
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The reason the zippers on this version of the MP are being wonky is due to how far back they start from the end of the bag. Do you see how on the older models, the “head” part of the zipper (the part that you pull on and it zippers / connects the two sides together) is almost right up to the very edge of the side of the bag ? It is placed right at the very end.

When the zipper head is placed at the end of the bag like the older models, the metal teeth of the zipper end and then there is that little bit of fabric on both sides that comes after it - the zipper head “eats” that little tiny bit of fabric at the end of the zipper. This allows the sides of the zippered top to pull closer together and get a more snug closure. It’s way more neat and tidy.

With the new models, there is too much of that end fabric. The zipper head doesn’t have traction with the fabric. It only has traction with the metal teeth. So because there is way too much fabric at the end of the zipper, the zipper head slips back onto the metal teeth at the end. That big gap where there is too much fabric won't close nicely. There is simply too much excess fabric and the zipper head cannot get a good grab. So it looks sloppy and unfinished and annoys us all that our bags don’t have that nice little “snatch” close that we’re used to with this little SLG.

it’s also why when the bag is more full, the puffiness of the bag will cause pressure on the zipper head and make it close a little better bc it's forcing the zipper head to press against the end more. If that makes sense. Kinda like how gravity works but more like forced pressure in this case.

Thank you for your thorough and detailed explanation! I completely understand what you mean. I will try adding my stuff in it and see if it closes better. It sounds like the extra fabric at the end/zipper not closing will be a consistent issue.
 
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Does your zipper gradually move backward? I received my Escale mini pochette and I’m not sure whether to return and buy another one or just keep mine. I love the print and do not mind the new lining design, but I would like the MP to fully close like my mono MP. Or am I being too picky?

Photo 1: I have to really tug at the zipper pull to fully close to cover the zipper.
Photo 2: If I close the MP without tugging hard, this is what it looks like. Or, it will eventually look like this after tugging hard from photo 1.
Photo 3: I noticed the zipper is uneven. Maybe that is why it won’t close all the way?
Once I put my things inside I walked around with it a bit & put it in my bag. The zipper has not moved. The end part when opened a little look slightly uneven like in your pic #3 but it’s even when closed. It seems easier to zip/unzip with things inside. In a month I won’t even notice. If the zip kept opening it would bother me but it’s not doing that thankfully. It’s staying fully zipped shut with the gap. Although annoying enough when I look at my photo - the gap irl isn’t going to impact its usefulness to me. Its just too bad as the years go by attention to detail seems to be lacking. It will be interesting to see what my neverfull presents when it arrives though I don’t have another to compare it to. At least the Escale glasses case I got is just as well made as my eclipse one. 40487B8F-EE01-45D4-8E72-59AEEBA9E20F.jpeg
 
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I see what you mean. That is gorgeous. I passed up on that MP and so was not aware of the interior differences when comparing it. Very nice piece. They definitely could have done that here too and I see how that would be viewed as this season's being cheaper !
Yes, I know EmmJay showed a few of her other MPs that were like my mon monogram too. I do wish they had done that here. I also had better luck with my zipper for some reason, here’s a photo. It’s not as good as my other MP, but I can tolerate this just because it is so cheery and fun. I just wish everyone’s was perfect to begin with!
 

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I bought the pastel notebook, I don't know why, but I did it and I'm really looking forward to making and checking off lists in such a happy little thing!
I think that would be a wonderful piece to own for summer excursions and writing in as a diary. Or maybe notes for that Harlequin Romance book to write!
 
Yes, it stayed closed. I don’t recall seeing uneven zippers. I just realized the Escale MP is $25 more than a Pochette Accessories. LVs pricing for LE is OOC.
I KNOW!! They are totally OOC!! I’m only ok with this little guy because I’m really on ban island after my H purchase and after this crazy horrible virus has changed so many things and hurt so many around the world.

I want to wait for awhile before buying too many more bags. I have to say it is a bummer not to go out carrying the Bag of the day, although I know it’s a minor thing given what’s happening. I’m sure at some point we will all be out in the world. Right now I wish all of you health and safety. This MP has just been a nice distraction for me, of course reality waits. Please take care all!
 
Just received my pastel tp26.
I'm having mixed feelings.
I really like the pink print and I think it looks better in real than in pics.
However, I do notice the sag of the bottom and the very thin canvas.
I don't have last year's giant logo tp26. Are they thicker and sturdier?
I did buy the flashy Giante 26TP last summer and it is fine- I do not detect any sag. I cannot say how the 2 differ but for an item like this, I would prefer a sturdy base to set the bag upright. The Escales 26TP seems to be a disappointment across the board in terms of sag and corner defects.
 
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After closely scrutinizing the new Escale MP vs 2011 DA MP, I have come to some conclusions:

Firstly, The classic MPs have no lining at all.
I’ve seen some posts talking about lining in the classic MP which is why I looked closer and am writing about it now.

The inside of the classic MPs consist of canvas - it's simply the backside of the canvas it’s made of, with fabric sewn over the joined edges. I tried to get good angles so this can be seen. It allows the bag to have slightly more room because it’s just a sewn fabric "bumper" over the raw edges of the outer material. Believe it or not this minimalist approach to the interior lends even the slightest bit more packable storage.

Also, I wouldn't know the precise answer since I'm not in the atelier on the front lines, but maybe they chose to use a thinner mm for this canvas because they know the fabric lining would add bulk. Perhaps they were trying to subtract some chunkiness from the canvas to make up for the addition of that chunkiness gained from the fabric ? Just a thought. Shrugs.

Secondly, the new Escale MPs have a sewn drop-in lining. Which means that underneath that pretty purple cloth lining, there are the same "guts" as can be seen in the classic MPs. The difference is there is extra fabric sewn to fit the interior and then dropped in and sewn around the top for the Escale MP.

So essentially, when I see comments about "cost-effectiveness" and "cheaper" methods with the new Escale MPs, I have to disagree. It is by far more costly to include additional fabric in these special edition MPs. Also, I tried to show in the photos, because of the addition of the drop-in lining, there is an added step to sew all along the interior top of the MP in one continuous length. That means: more sewing = more manual labor = more cost.

In the DA MP, it can be seen in the photo of the interior where the zipper meets the top of the inside canvas, that the zipper has one line of stitching along the top to hold the zipper in place. Thus all of the innards of the bag are raw and out on display. Making it very easy to see how it is constructed. Again, looking at the interior of the Escale MP, everything is hidden beneath the pretty lining and all buttoned up. :smile:

Just wanted to point all of this out, if for nothing else but my own amusement. Hehe. I do not agree in the price increase on the limited edition MP, but it does seem that they are indeed trying to make them "nicer" or have a little bit more of a special interior with some flavor. I agree there is less room due to the addition of the fabric lining, which doesn't bother me personally, but I understand the nuance of it.

I included photos of the zipper issues, mine has it too, sadly. I would venture to guess that this will be the norm for this piece. Very disappointing. The canvas itself does feel thinner and more flimsy. It's like buying poster board (older MP) and then getting one little piece of printer paper (new Escale MP). Lol. The thickness is not at all up to standards as we used to know them.

The zipper issue could be fixed if more attention was paid to where the zipper was being sewn onto the canvas during construction of the piece. It is being sewn too far back. It should be hitting where the older ones hit. I hate to say it but I think the mass production and rushed inventory demands is causing so much to slip through the cracks. More employees hired and trained quickly and less attention paid to detail. :sad: I know I'm not saying anything we don't already know (but is cathartic to type it). ;)

I will be keeping this Escale MP - the pop of color and spring vibe makes me happy. And I probably won't use it enough to get annoyed by the inside bulkiness. But simply having it and being able to look at it cheers me up, so it is what it is. Hope this was helpful in some way to understand at least the construction method of this piece, both new and old. :smile:
We will have to respectfully disagree on the lining issue. IMO it is more laborious to bind seams and secure lining to canvas than to simply drop a fabric lining into a canvas shell with unfinished construction hiding the "guts" as you mention. I prefer the old classic look.

The zipper gap is completely unacceptable in my book. To my eye it is a defect and QC should have caught this and fixed it before the items shipped. But if this is ok for some, that is fine- the MP is still very pretty.
 
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I ordered the Zoe wallet in pastel. The color is so pretty in irl. It will fit nicely in smaller bags when I want to be more compact.

I’ve been loving the pastel theme this season from other brands too. I picked up the latest purple cardholder from Chanel a couple weeks ago. I’m set for slg’s this season!!!
 

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I also prefer the older classic look. It is neater and tidier and the functionality works better. But I am happy I got the Escale MP and can enjoy it, for what it is, lining and all.

Zipper gap is total crap. THAT should have never been allowed out of the factory. The people doing the
manufacturing should be taught the right way and time spent to make sure things are proper and acceptable QC standards.

LV is missing the mark with the QC big time lately. It just makes it feel like they don't care
because they know they will get the net profits regardless.

I digress to the
Vernis valentine key pouch. I SWEAR there is a stitch missing on that thing on mine. On the side. It irks me. But alas I keep that too bc the coloring makes me smile and it is a special piece. I miss the good old days. Sigh. :doh:
 
I ordered the Zoe wallet in pastel. The color is so pretty in irl. It will fit nicely in smaller bags when I want to be more compact.

I’ve been loving the pastel theme this season from other brands too. I picked up the latest purple cardholder from Chanel a couple weeks ago. I’m set for slg’s this season!!!

Omgsh your Zoe wallet (and Chanel) are too pretty! Does Zoe have that small pocket for cards in the back like regular Zoe wallets? I wanted this wallet as well but I JUST purchased a studded Damier Azur Zoe just weeks ago and that was limited edition as well.
 
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