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Goodness! It is sooooo pretty. I have been lusting after this scarf too! It's actually the 1 item I was interested in months ago...

Are you able to post pics of the scarf worn on the neck and as a shawl? If not, can you tell me it's long enough to wear around the neck (I like to make a loop and pull the ends through) and still hang quite a bit from the neck? Pretty please? :biggrin:

I really love this whole Escale collection but had to be real with myself - I have bought three LV bags already this year and probably would not get the use out of them that I would like. This scarf jumped out at me!

I am still in PJ's but these photos are accurate to show how long it is: https://us.louisvuitton.com/eng-us/products/lv-escale-summer-stripes-pareo-stole-nvprod2160021v
 
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Hi Megs! Good to see you here. Don’t blame you a bit for getting that notebook, it is happy. I have the pastel MP coming today, and the colors just make me happy too. Having tpf to shelter in place with is so helpful, thank you:flowers:

So happy to have this place to feel like "home" during this really tough time.

I will say I didn't research/realize that the notebook can't have pages replaced. Has anyone found a way around that? Will be such a bummer to literally not know what to do with the notebook after I use it, but I really want to use it.
 
So happy to have this place to feel like "home" during this really tough time.

I will say I didn't research/realize that the notebook can't have pages replaced. Has anyone found a way around that? Will be such a bummer to literally not know what to do with the notebook after I use it, but I really want to use it.

I loooove that notebook and almost bough tit. But not being able to replace pages caused me to reconsider. But it is sooooo pretty! Maybe you can reserve it for special entries only?
 
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I really love this whole Escale collection but had to be real with myself - I have bought three LV bags already this year and probably would not get the use out of them that I would like. This scarf jumped out at me!

I am still in PJ's but these photos are accurate to show how long it is: https://us.louisvuitton.com/eng-us/products/lv-escale-summer-stripes-pareo-stole-nvprod2160021v
Thanks! I didn't even think to look at the other Pareo stole for a size reference...
 
So happy to have this place to feel like "home" during this really tough time.

I will say I didn't research/realize that the notebook can't have pages replaced. Has anyone found a way around that? Will be such a bummer to literally not know what to do with the notebook after I use it, but I really want to use it.
Thank your- tpf really is a community!

I don’t know if you can remove the entire “filler” paper when you are done in some creative way. I bought a Ulysse notebook from Hermes awhile back that had speciality EXPENSIVE refills ($75 for my size - no way is a refill worth that! It would cut in to my bag/scarf/slg budget way too much:P) so I bought some nice journals with hard covers, and put marine grade (extremely strong) Velcro on a plastic piece snapped to the weird H snap refill system, Velcro backing on the journal, then I just Velcro in a new journal when I need to do so. Has saved me hundreds. And I get to use my favorite purple anemone cover over and over. It might be easier with the LV notebook even because the H system is fairly clunky and I had to make a snap in piece for it (the ugly blue plastic) that won’t be required for the LV notebooks. Here’s a few pics, sorry they rotated. You don’t see the Velcro system because once it’s velcroed together that part is hidden. HTH

PS I know this isn’t exactly 2020 escale, but it IS related :smile: hope you can reuse!

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After closely scrutinizing the new Escale MP vs 2011 DA MP, I have come to some conclusions:

Firstly, The classic MPs have no lining at all.
I’ve seen some posts talking about lining in the classic MP which is why I looked closer and am writing about it now.

The inside of the classic MPs consist of canvas - it's simply the backside of the canvas it’s made of, with fabric sewn over the joined edges. I tried to get good angles so this can be seen. It allows the bag to have slightly more room because it’s just a sewn fabric "bumper" over the raw edges of the outer material. Believe it or not this minimalist approach to the interior lends even the slightest bit more packable storage.

Also, I wouldn't know the precise answer since I'm not in the atelier on the front lines, but maybe they chose to use a thinner mm for this canvas because they know the fabric lining would add bulk. Perhaps they were trying to subtract some chunkiness from the canvas to make up for the addition of that chunkiness gained from the fabric ? Just a thought. Shrugs.

Secondly, the new Escale MPs have a sewn drop-in lining. Which means that underneath that pretty purple cloth lining, there are the same "guts" as can be seen in the classic MPs. The difference is there is extra fabric sewn to fit the interior and then dropped in and sewn around the top for the Escale MP.

So essentially, when I see comments about "cost-effectiveness" and "cheaper" methods with the new Escale MPs, I have to disagree. It is by far more costly to include additional fabric in these special edition MPs. Also, I tried to show in the photos, because of the addition of the drop-in lining, there is an added step to sew all along the interior top of the MP in one continuous length. That means: more sewing = more manual labor = more cost.

In the DA MP, it can be seen in the photo of the interior where the zipper meets the top of the inside canvas, that the zipper has one line of stitching along the top to hold the zipper in place. Thus all of the innards of the bag are raw and out on display. Making it very easy to see how it is constructed. Again, looking at the interior of the Escale MP, everything is hidden beneath the pretty lining and all buttoned up. :smile:

Just wanted to point all of this out, if for nothing else but my own amusement. Hehe. I do not agree in the price increase on the limited edition MP, but it does seem that they are indeed trying to make them "nicer" or have a little bit more of a special interior with some flavor. I agree there is less room due to the addition of the fabric lining, which doesn't bother me personally, but I understand the nuance of it.

I included photos of the zipper issues, mine has it too, sadly. I would venture to guess that this will be the norm for this piece. Very disappointing. The canvas itself does feel thinner and more flimsy. It's like buying poster board (older MP) and then getting one little piece of printer paper (new Escale MP). Lol. The thickness is not at all up to standards as we used to know them.

The zipper issue could be fixed if more attention was paid to where the zipper was being sewn onto the canvas during construction of the piece. It is being sewn too far back. It should be hitting where the older ones hit. I hate to say it but I think the mass production and rushed inventory demands is causing so much to slip through the cracks. More employees hired and trained quickly and less attention paid to detail. :sad: I know I'm not saying anything we don't already know (but is cathartic to type it). ;)

I will be keeping this Escale MP - the pop of color and spring vibe makes me happy. And I probably won't use it enough to get annoyed by the inside bulkiness. But simply having it and being able to look at it cheers me up, so it is what it is. Hope this was helpful in some way to understand at least the construction method of this piece, both new and old. :smile:
 

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After closely scrutinizing the new Escale MP vs 2011 DA MP, I have come to some conclusions:

Firstly, The classic MPs have no lining at all.
I’ve seen some posts talking about lining in the classic MP which is why I looked closer and am writing about it now.

The inside of the classic MPs consist of canvas - it's simply the backside of the canvas it’s made of, with fabric sewn over the joined edges. I tried to get good angles so this can be seen. It allows the bag to have slightly more room because it’s just a sewn fabric "bumper" over the raw edges of the outer material. Believe it or not this minimalist approach to the interior lends even the slightest bit more packable storage.

Secondly, the new Escale MPs have a sewn drop-in lining. Which means that underneath that pretty purple cloth lining, there are the same "guts" as can be seen in the classic MPs. The difference is there is extra fabric sewn to fit the interior and then dropped in and sewn around the top for the Escale MP.

So essentially, when I see comments about "cost-effectiveness" and "cheaper" methods with the new Escale MPs, I have to disagree. It is by far more costly to include additional fabric in these special edition MPs. Also, I tried to show in the photos, because of the addition of the drop-in lining, there is an added step to sew all along the interior top of the MP. That means: more sewing = more manual labor = more cost.

In the DA MP, it can be seen in the photo of the interior where the zipper meets the top of the inside canvas, that the zipper has one line of stitching along the top to hold the zipper in place. Thus all of the innards of the bag are raw and out on display. Making it very easy to see how it is constructed. Again, looking at the interior of the Escale MP, everything is hidden beneath the pretty lining and all buttoned up. :smile:

Just wanted to point all of this out, if for nothing else but my own amusement. Hehe. I do not agree in the price increase on the limited edition MP, but it does seem that they are indeed trying to make them "nicer" or have a little bit more of a special interior with some flavor. I agree there is less room due to the addition of the fabric lining, which doesn't bother me personally, but I understand the nuance of it.

I included photos of the zipper issues, mine has it too, sadly. I would venture to guess that this will be the norm for this piece. Very disappointing. The canvas itself does feel thinner and more flimsy. It's like buying poster board (older MP) and then getting one little piece of printer paper (new Escale MP). Lol. The thickness is not at all up to standards as we used to know them.

The zipper issue could be fixed if more attention was paid to where the zipper was being sewn onto the canvas during construction of the piece. It is being sewn too far back. It should be hitting where the older ones hit. I hate to say it but I think the mass production and rushed inventory demands is causing so much to slip through the cracks. More employees hired and trained quickly and less attention paid to detail. :sad: I know I'm not saying anything we don't already know (but is cathartic to type it). ;)

I will be keeping this Escale MP - the pop of color and spring vibe makes me happy. And I probably won't use it enough to get annoyed by the inside bulkiness. But simply having it and being able to look at it cheers me up, so it is what it is. Hope this was helpful in some way to understand at least the construction method of this piece, both new and old. :smile:
The new lining does take up a smidge more space on the interior. I moved my things out of my Christmas animation & into the new one. It all fit but I can tell it’s slightly more snug. I actually like the new inner lining covering up the material appearing in your DA pochette picture. It makes it look cleaner & nicer at the top there in my opinion :) I also noticed my zipper gap seemed to shrink with my stuff in it. I mean I don’t think it actually did but for some reason it looks better!
 
After closely scrutinizing the new Escale MP vs 2011 DA MP, I have come to some conclusions:

Firstly, The classic MPs have no lining at all.
I’ve seen some posts talking about lining in the classic MP which is why I looked closer and am writing about it now.

The inside of the classic MPs consist of canvas - it's simply the backside of the canvas it’s made of, with fabric sewn over the joined edges. I tried to get good angles so this can be seen. It allows the bag to have slightly more room because it’s just a sewn fabric "bumper" over the raw edges of the outer material. Believe it or not this minimalist approach to the interior lends even the slightest bit more packable storage.

Also, I wouldn't know the precise answer since I'm not in the atelier on the front lines, but maybe they chose to use a thinner mm for this canvas because they know the fabric lining would add bulk. Perhaps they were trying to subtract some chunkiness from the canvas to make up for the addition of that chunkiness gained from the fabric ? Just a thought. Shrugs.

Secondly, the new Escale MPs have a sewn drop-in lining. Which means that underneath that pretty purple cloth lining, there are the same "guts" as can be seen in the classic MPs. The difference is there is extra fabric sewn to fit the interior and then dropped in and sewn around the top for the Escale MP.

So essentially, when I see comments about "cost-effectiveness" and "cheaper" methods with the new Escale MPs, I have to disagree. It is by far more costly to include additional fabric in these special edition MPs. Also, I tried to show in the photos, because of the addition of the drop-in lining, there is an added step to sew all along the interior top of the MP in one continuous length. That means: more sewing = more manual labor = more cost.

In the DA MP, it can be seen in the photo of the interior where the zipper meets the top of the inside canvas, that the zipper has one line of stitching along the top to hold the zipper in place. Thus all of the innards of the bag are raw and out on display. Making it very easy to see how it is constructed. Again, looking at the interior of the Escale MP, everything is hidden beneath the pretty lining and all buttoned up. :smile:

Just wanted to point all of this out, if for nothing else but my own amusement. Hehe. I do not agree in the price increase on the limited edition MP, but it does seem that they are indeed trying to make them "nicer" or have a little bit more of a special interior with some flavor. I agree there is less room due to the addition of the fabric lining, which doesn't bother me personally, but I understand the nuance of it.

I included photos of the zipper issues, mine has it too, sadly. I would venture to guess that this will be the norm for this piece. Very disappointing. The canvas itself does feel thinner and more flimsy. It's like buying poster board (older MP) and then getting one little piece of printer paper (new Escale MP). Lol. The thickness is not at all up to standards as we used to know them.

The zipper issue could be fixed if more attention was paid to where the zipper was being sewn onto the canvas during construction of the piece. It is being sewn too far back. It should be hitting where the older ones hit. I hate to say it but I think the mass production and rushed inventory demands is causing so much to slip through the cracks. More employees hired and trained quickly and less attention paid to detail. :sad: I know I'm not saying anything we don't already know (but is cathartic to type it). ;)

I will be keeping this Escale MP - the pop of color and spring vibe makes me happy. And I probably won't use it enough to get annoyed by the inside bulkiness. But simply having it and being able to look at it cheers me up, so it is what it is. Hope this was helpful in some way to understand at least the construction method of this piece, both new and old. :smile:
Thanks for your detailed comparison post and the photos!
 
So the lining part of the mini pochette doesn’t bother me, it actually will be easier to clean it if need. The zipper though doesn’t go to the end. It’s annoying. I’m probably going to keep it but it’s a trend on all the pochettes I’ve seen in this collection. Attached is a pic of my midi pochette that came with my bucket 2007, the Christmas animation 2019, and this new one. You can see the oldest one zips all the way to the very end. The Christmas one doesn’t & the new one doesn’t either with a much more noticeable gap. Of these, the oldest one is absolutely the winner in quality. AnywAy - if this gap will bother you, I wouldn’t order it.
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Does your zipper gradually move backward? I received my Escale mini pochette and I’m not sure whether to return and buy another one or just keep mine. I love the print and do not mind the new lining design, but I would like the MP to fully close like my mono MP. Or am I being too picky?

Photo 1: I have to really tug at the zipper pull to fully close to cover the zipper.
Photo 2: If I close the MP without tugging hard, this is what it looks like. Or, it will eventually look like this after tugging hard from photo 1.
Photo 3: I noticed the zipper is uneven. Maybe that is why it won’t close all the way?
 

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Does your zipper gradually move backward? I received my Escale mini pochette and I’m not sure whether to return and buy another one or just keep mine. I love the print and do not mind the new lining design, but I would like the MP to fully close like my mono MP.

Photo 1: I have to really tug at the zipper pull to fully close to cover the zipper.
Photo 2: If I close the MP without tugging hard, this is what it looks like. Or, it will eventually look like this after tugging hard from photo 1.
Photo 3: I noticed the zipper is uneven. Maybe that is why it won’t close all the way?
The zipper on my second MP (on the right) kept moving backward. With yours, I do notice the uneven zipper ends. LV did not focus on quality but they know their items will continue to sell. SMH!
 

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I have to say I was pleasantly surprised with my new escale MP - it just arrived! Yes, the canvas is thinner, yes, the lining isn’t done as well or as expensively as my mon monogram mini pochette, and yes I have a small gap at the zipper. But with my stuff in it, and the colors, it’s a definite keeper for me. I LOVE the pink leather and the silver hw - LV doesn’t make much in silver. it was MIF the week of 3/9. It goes so well with some bags and scarves I have that I’m fine with this little cutie.

Likely I won’t buy anymore MP at all because overall it’s too small except for meds, lip balm and a few stray items, and they’ve gone nuts with the price. But I’m glad I bought this one. I’m also glad I didn’t buy a handbag in escale. The things that don’t bother me on this small piece that only I will see and use likely would bother me on a NF or a Speedy for 4 times the $$. I also had a lilac NF from last summer that I love, and felt another bag in a kind of similar print likely wouldn’t get as much use. For those that wondered about last years collection and whether this is different here are a few pics with my lilac NF. And EVERYTHING goes better with an H Kelly bag:P:P I was hoping this little piece would be a nice coordinating pop of color inside my Kelly, and it is.

Bottom line, I had fun anticipating it, had fun unboxing and taking photos and I will enjoy it. I hope it works out too for those of you waiting on pieces from this fun splashy collection!! Sorry the photos turned sideways but it gives you an idea.

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After closely scrutinizing the new Escale MP vs 2011 DA MP, I have come to some conclusions:

Firstly, The classic MPs have no lining at all.
I’ve seen some posts talking about lining in the classic MP which is why I looked closer and am writing about it now.

The inside of the classic MPs consist of canvas - it's simply the backside of the canvas it’s made of, with fabric sewn over the joined edges. I tried to get good angles so this can be seen. It allows the bag to have slightly more room because it’s just a sewn fabric "bumper" over the raw edges of the outer material. Believe it or not this minimalist approach to the interior lends even the slightest bit more packable storage.

Also, I wouldn't know the precise answer since I'm not in the atelier on the front lines, but maybe they chose to use a thinner mm for this canvas because they know the fabric lining would add bulk. Perhaps they were trying to subtract some chunkiness from the canvas to make up for the addition of that chunkiness gained from the fabric ? Just a thought. Shrugs.

Secondly, the new Escale MPs have a sewn drop-in lining. Which means that underneath that pretty purple cloth lining, there are the same "guts" as can be seen in the classic MPs. The difference is there is extra fabric sewn to fit the interior and then dropped in and sewn around the top for the Escale MP.

So essentially, when I see comments about "cost-effectiveness" and "cheaper" methods with the new Escale MPs, I have to disagree. It is by far more costly to include additional fabric in these special edition MPs. Also, I tried to show in the photos, because of the addition of the drop-in lining, there is an added step to sew all along the interior top of the MP in one continuous length. That means: more sewing = more manual labor = more cost.

In the DA MP, it can be seen in the photo of the interior where the zipper meets the top of the inside canvas, that the zipper has one line of stitching along the top to hold the zipper in place. Thus all of the innards of the bag are raw and out on display. Making it very easy to see how it is constructed. Again, looking at the interior of the Escale MP, everything is hidden beneath the pretty lining and all buttoned up. :smile:

Just wanted to point all of this out, if for nothing else but my own amusement. Hehe. I do not agree in the price increase on the limited edition MP, but it does seem that they are indeed trying to make them "nicer" or have a little bit more of a special interior with some flavor. I agree there is less room due to the addition of the fabric lining, which doesn't bother me personally, but I understand the nuance of it.

I included photos of the zipper issues, mine has it too, sadly. I would venture to guess that this will be the norm for this piece. Very disappointing. The canvas itself does feel thinner and more flimsy. It's like buying poster board (older MP) and then getting one little piece of printer paper (new Escale MP). Lol. The thickness is not at all up to standards as we used to know them.

The zipper issue could be fixed if more attention was paid to where the zipper was being sewn onto the canvas during construction of the piece. It is being sewn too far back. It should be hitting where the older ones hit. I hate to say it but I think the mass production and rushed inventory demands is causing so much to slip through the cracks. More employees hired and trained quickly and less attention paid to detail. :sad: I know I'm not saying anything we don't already know (but is cathartic to type it). ;)

I will be keeping this Escale MP - the pop of color and spring vibe makes me happy. And I probably won't use it enough to get annoyed by the inside bulkiness. But simply having it and being able to look at it cheers me up, so it is what it is. Hope this was helpful in some way to understand at least the construction method of this piece, both new and old. :smile:
Hi Jules626 - the new lining in escale is cheaper when compared to newer MP’s. Here’s an example from last year, and it’s so much nicer. I’m still glad they lined this one at all, as I’m keeping it. But this is what we were speaking of as cheaper and less functional.
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