http://www.bergdorfgoodman.com/search.jhtml?N=0&Ntt=secretary+wallet&_requestid=22948
We weren't able to find any results for "secretary wallet."
Your move.

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http://www.bergdorfgoodman.com/search.jhtml?N=0&Ntt=secretary+wallet&_requestid=22948
We weren't able to find any results for "secretary wallet."
Your move.
Which is fine. I don't expect anyone to know everything; heck, I wasn't aware of it being called a secretary wallet. We all learn something new every day. But multiple people here were aggressive in their ignorance of the term and weren't open to the possibility that they didn't know something.
It's annoying. Sixteen pages of it are annoying.
My response now is that I think that probably is what happened here, since I do not accept the poster's story verbatim. Using the term "obviously" does not make your reading of the situation more correct than mine, as neither of us were present. But if I am wrong, I will still stand by my observation that the ire inherent in many of these posts is astonishing. Really, it's okay that some of us don't agree with you or the OP. Really. Stop flexing and breathe.
SF members: If you want to join here by all means, do it. But arguing this point is moot at this juncture. Trust.
We know Foo to be Foo and all that it entails. But we're getting nowhere fast. As much as I like seeing you all here, nothing more can be gained by the constant bickering. So. Give it a rest.
I have moved on and so should you.
Bris out. Peace.
Well, if you don't believe his account, then there's no point. His is the only account. It could be completely made up, but it's rather convenient to decide that the parts that work to undermine your theories (and only those parts) must be false.
And of course it's okay that you disagree, but it's the way people disagreed here. And it's simply factual that breast wallet is a widely used, widely understood term. That's hard to disagree with without purposefully remaining ignorant or being disingenuous.
OK - I went to a martial arts class for 2 hours and I returned to find I have now lost the plot of this thread.
Have we know descended into a t&a? This is why my parents thought I should go to an all girl's school no doubt. Actually this has led me thinking that at the heart of this matter may have been a cultural misunderstanding.
A breast wallet is certainly not a term used in Europe apart from the UK.
Gender divisions aside Europe uses terms such as:
bi-folds
card cases
coin purses
continental
flap french
tri-folds
wristlets (card divisions inside)
even money clips
In the UK it is common place to use the term that suggests a longish slim wallet that fits into the deep inside breast pocket of a man's suit jacket.
Perhaps the SA was not familiar with the term and was rather worried about the constance reference to 'breast'.
I am not saying I know this to be the case I am merely suggesting.
Okay, first of all, Googling "passage wallet" just turns up a whole bunch of nylon pouches that look like they're supposed to hang around your neck.
Who here really thinks "passage wallet" would have been more clear than "breast wallet"? At least "breast wallet" is semi-descriptive of how the thing functions.
I understand that Hermes may not call their breast wallets "breast wallets," but it is a generic term. The wallets themselves may not be all too common anymore, but they are what they are. So far, no one has come up with a term that is more popularly used. The kicker is that Hermes sells the damned things--so it only seems reasonable to expect they'd know what they're called in general terms. It's not like I walked into the Gap and asked for the same. Imagine asking for a "purse" at Hermes, only to be told: "Purses? What purses? We only have Kellys and Birkins here."
Anyway, you all seem to happily forget the fact that the second SA, who I spent 99% of my time talking to, also used the term "breast wallet."
Google the terms. I dare you. "Breast wallet" is all over the place and turns up . . . breast wallets. "Secretary wallet" is significantly less consistent, and the term is often clarified as "breast secretary wallet."
"Passenger wallet" doesn't appear to be a real term at all.
I don't think either SA was troubled by the term. I'm convinced the first was clueless about everything happening around her, and the second knew exactly what I meant.
As for those other terms: each describes a precise sort of money-holding accessory. "Money clip" is not interchangeable with "tri-fold wallet." None are interchangeable with "breast wallet."
Perhaps she came from a men's store or haberdashery background before her unfortunate stint at Hermès. For they have always called their breast wallets "men's long wallet" or "document holder" rather than your generally accepted term in the SF world and beyond.
However, I, for one, am happy to have learned something new this week. Thank you for broadening my horizons.![]()
Someone on the SF is having some fun:
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Tremendous.
ETA, I hope there's a green pebbled calfskin breast wallet in that Birkin.![]()