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#227
What's been engaging about this thread is that people can have differing views without resorting to pointed sarcasm or name calling .... it would be nice if it can continue that way.

Thanks, all.
 
#228
poplin said:
So your standard for what something is properly called is whatever the average, ignorant person thinks it's called? It's called a breast wallet. The fact that you two (and others) apparently don't know that doesn't mean it isn't. The fact that there is a second name that can be applied to it also doesn't mean it's not a breast wallet.

Perhaps the members of this forum should open their minds to the possibility that they don't know everything there is to know about wallets. That really shouldn't shock you or hurt your pride, but it sure seems to.
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I had not heard the term "breast wallet." It would not surprise me if many women had not. And I must admit that my pride remains unscathed. Further, the salesperson's first language may not have been English. But, of course, since "breast wallet" is the proper name for the thing, the OP should absolutely have insisted on using that term and no other. Why should one lower oneself in an effort to be understood? Righteous indignation over trifles and the opportunity to denigrate others is so much more satisfying.
 
#231
cakeymakeybakey said:
You could always refer to it by the other accepted nomenclature, "secretary" or "passenger" wallet.
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DEUS EX MACHINA said:
Outside of SF it is not. You forum guys need to talk to some real life people a little more.
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Brooklynite said:
Who is talking here? :rofl:
Breast wallet? Sorry have to laugh again. :lolots:
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Google the terms. I dare you. "Breast wallet" is all over the place and turns up . . . breast wallets. "Secretary wallet" is significantly less consistent, and the term is often clarified as "breast secretary wallet."

"Passenger wallet" doesn't appear to be a real term at all.
 
#232
Mindi B said:
I had not heard the term "breast wallet." It would not surprise me if many women had not. And I must admit that my pride remains unscathed. Further, the salesperson's first language may not have been English. But, of course, since "breast wallet" is the proper name for the thing, the OP should absolutely have insisted on using that term and no other. Why should one lower oneself in an effort to be understood? Righteous indignation over trifles and the opportunity to denigrate others is so much more satisfying.
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mafoofan said:
Thanks. This isn't bad advice, but the second SA I dealt with (the one whom I spent most of my time with) knew exactly what a breast wallet is.
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Yes, it would be silly to keep insisting on calling something by a term that the person you are speaking to doesn't understand. That obviously didn't happen here. So what's your response now?
 
#233
mafoofan said:
Google the terms. I dare you. "Breast wallet" is all over the place and turns up . . . breast wallets. "Secretary wallet" is significantly less consistent, and the term is often clarified as "breast secretary wallet."

"Passenger wallet" doesn't appear to be a real term at all.
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"I dare you?" :lolots: This is funnier than "breast wallet"!
 
#234
poplin said:
So your standard for what something is properly called is whatever the average, ignorant person thinks it's called? It's called a breast wallet. The fact that you two (and others) apparently don't know that doesn't mean it isn't. The fact that there is a second name that can be applied to it also doesn't mean it's not a breast wallet.

Perhaps the members of this forum should open their minds to the possibility that they don't know everything there is to know about wallets. That really shouldn't shock you or hurt your pride, but it sure seems to.
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Why so hostile, poplin? No one claimed to know everything about wallets. It's just not called a "breast wallet" in the Hermès catalogue, so we're not familiar with it as such on the Hermès forum.

I did discover an interesting factoid today, though.

The word "wallet" has been in use since the Ceasar century to mean a bag or a knapsack for carrying articles, and the word possibly derives from Proto-Germanic. The ancient Greek word kibisis, used to describe the sack carried by the god Hermes and the sack in which the mythical hero Perseus carried the decapitated head of the monster Medusa, has been typically translated as "wallet."

So everything circles back to Hermès. :p
 
#235
Brooklynite said:
http://www.bergdorfgoodman.com/search.jhtml?N=0&Ntt=breast+wallet&_requestid=22948

We weren't able to find any results for "breast wallet".

Enough said.
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Try "secretary wallet" or "passenger wallet" under the same search engine and see if you find anything at Bergdorf. Then use Google and search for all three terms.

I understand that this forum is supposed to be a polite place, but I think it's fair to expect you'll think a little harder before being snarky to other members.
 
#237
poplin said:
Yes, it would be silly to keep insisting on calling something by a term that the person you are speaking to doesn't understand. That obviously didn't happen here. So what's your response now?
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My response now is that I think that probably is what happened here, since I do not accept the poster's story verbatim. Using the term "obviously" does not make your reading of the situation more correct than mine, as neither of us were present. But if I am wrong, I will still stand by my observation that the ire inherent in many of these posts is astonishing. Really, it's okay that some of us don't agree with you or the OP. Really. Stop flexing and breathe.
 
#239
mafoofan said:
Try "secretary wallet" or "passenger wallet" under the same search engine and see if you find anything at Bergdorf. Then use Google and search for all three terms.

I understand that this forum is supposed to be a polite place, but I think it's fair to expect you'll think a little harder before being snarky to other members.
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upon my little research, I realized that the other name is passage wallet, rather than passenger. Mr.Wallet expert;)
 
#240
cakeymakeybakey said:
Why so hostile, poplin? No one claimed to know everything about wallets. It's just not called a "breast wallet" in the Hermès catalogue, so we're not familiar with it as such on the Hermès forum.
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Which is fine. I don't expect anyone to know everything; heck, I wasn't aware of it being called a secretary wallet. We all learn something new every day. But multiple people here were aggressive in their ignorance of the term and weren't open to the possibility that they didn't know something.

It's annoying. Sixteen pages of it are annoying.
 
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