Spend threshold for B/K/C

[Midge Maisel]

If you're crying over H, please do what you need to do for your mental health.

I'm not quite a year into the process. I've received my first couple of offers, but none was really a good fit for me (one was amazing but way more than I wanted to spend because it was an exotic). My SA understands what I like and while there are no guarantees in this game, I would be surprised if I didn't get my first QB in 2024.

That said, I've been a regular shopper with purchases from a variety of metiers. I've developed a good relationship with my SA--we genuinely have fun shopping! Most importantly, I'm patient, respectful, and enjoying the entire experience. This is not about me just pushing for a bag, and really, if I thought I liked H before I got started, I love it even more now.

If you're just in it for the bag, no shame, but save yourself lots of effort and frustration and just go to the secondhand market. If you want to build a collection of H items, it will take time and you will spend money, but you will get things you love and, if you're lucky, find a fun shopping buddy in your SA.

 

[luxuryspy]

Consider resellers. Success requires a great collaboration between you, your SA and SM. Without a genuine fondness and mutual respect for each other, you will be absolutely frustrated at Hermes, no matter how much money you spend. Of course, there are exceptions for those who spend $100k+ a year for a decade or more. You would save money and get exactly what you want from reputable resellers. The second hand market has plummeted for B30s and you can get brand new authentic bags for less than what you would spend on prespend.

Thank you! At this moment I’ve spent too much money to go to the reseller route and I don’t want my bag from 2nd hand . I will keep waiting patiently and hopefully early 2020 for my dream Bag arrives.

 

[luxuryspy]

If you're crying over H, please do what you need to do for your mental health.

I'm not quite a year into the process. I've received my first couple of offers, but none was really a good fit for me (one was amazing but way more than I wanted to spend because it was an exotic). My SA understands what I like and while there are no guarantees in this game, I would be surprised if I didn't get my first QB in 2024.

That said, I've been a regular shopper with purchases from a variety of metiers. I've developed a good relationship with my SA--we genuinely have fun shopping! Most importantly, I'm patient, respectful, and enjoying the entire experience. This is not about me just pushing for a bag, and really, if I thought I liked H before I got started, I love it even more now.

If you're just in it for the bag, no shame, but save yourself lots of effort and frustration and just go to the secondhand market. If you want to build a collection of H items, it will take time and you will spend money, but you will get things you love and, if you're lucky, find a fun shopping buddy in your SA.

I’ve been very patient and not pushy with my SA . I know my dream bag will come and I can’t wait for the all again ❤️

 

[Bdbunny]

I couldn’t bear the dissapointment again during holiday if I couldnt get it and coming home empty handed 😏 really a waste of time alot to just chase a H bag (been there done that during one of the Europe trips - couldn’t get anything at all from H not even the super not popular bag in a not popular colour let alone scoring B/K/C 😆-) in the end a happy ending coming home to a CALL from my sa 😅

On one of my earlier trips to Paris for shopping, that happened to me. I was not able to get a leather appt at FSH (my first time going to FSH) but I was determined to come home with a bag, so I went to Catherine B and took home a beautiful (albeit quite large) K32 sellier in red casaque with GHW! It was unworn and in pristine condition! I did pick up some beautiful van cleef and Cartier pieces so it was still a very fruitful shopping trip lol! And yes, come to think of it, maybe a couple weeks later I got a call from my local SA!

 

[Bdbunny]

while there are no guarantees in this game, I would be surprised if I didn't get my first QB in 2024.

Ooooo can't wait to see what you get!!!!

 

[Mrs.Hermess]

Hi Hermes lovers and this wonderful group! I would like to share my experience with Hermès. I started my journey last year back in April. I started off small and thought I found a SA that i clicked with . At that time I purchased Orans sandals and perfume. I explained at that time I wanted a Herbag 31 in Orange. SA K would keep an eye open. At that moment no follow up I tried texting no response. So I went back to boutique 3 months later and found a different SA who was a fresh breath of air helped me order some house wear and asked me about my wishlist. And I explained that I was working with SA Q and stated that I would like to change SA and would you be willing to be my main SA . New SA stated sure . She was able to produce the Herbag in the right color and size . I explained I would like to have Birkin in 30 with gold hardware neutral colors . Main SA put information into iPhone. Months later I went back and purchased more items I’m at 5k pre spend and no bag . Last year I went back to purchase some beach sandals and asked her to place and order of green oasis she didn’t even bother to check just stated it was sold out . I told SA to keep an eye out if one pops up . So later that day I called customer service and was told Madison store had my pair and I was able to call the store to purchase by them sending me a link . Main SA would only call to offer things that would only make SA monthly goals . I felt that she taking advantage of me and I pause my shopping with SA for Dec 2022. I was very disappointed that I didn’t get a B30 . I saw other people getting bags and was just what is wrong with me ?? This journey has put me through mental breakdown. I told myself I would reach back out through text to see if main Sa can find my Chypre sandals she stated she would put an order. A week later . So a week later I stop by into boutique just to browse around to see if new things were available and I asked about the cypher sands and SA told me oh I can place an order , but last week SA told me the order was placed! SA completely lie to me but I told myself again that I’m done ! Going into 11/2023 I drop by the boutique because I wanted a gold ring , scarf, mules , RTW and a couple of books. Pre spend now 13k I asked again about my b30 and she shook her head and stated stock is low and no bags available etc ….. you know bs lies ! So I saw the manager and explained this whole situation that I been waiting patiently and not been offered my wishlist bag manager check my profile and walk to the back where my main SA was and had a talk with SA . I noticed her demeanor has changed and stated I need yo update your wishlist what are you interested in and we will start working on your bag .



This is SA even offered me a pegasus that I’ve been wanting for two years now that I’ve paid for . So today SA calls and offers me a B30 in Vert Amade with silver hardware something I did not request on my wishlist! I politely declined the bag and explained per whishlist the only hardware is gold , provided colors and size . Now SA stated it doesn’t work like that you only get one choice to pick and maybe something would come next year ! I’m so emotionally drained and have tried to keep a positive outlook but I feel devastated any helpful advice would be appreciated ! sorry for being long winded

Hi. This comes from a good place but I think believe you may need to lower your expectations. Most people (not all) on this sub forum are hoping to be offered a quota bag in just about any spec. At my H store, with such low prespend, I do not believe you would have an SA stay with you, order items for you, and much less offer you a bag. If you have read and learned from the generous posts on this forum, a prespend of 13-15k is not noticiable at Hermes.
As I have posted previously (as well as others), there are periods and I have spent over 60-80k without an offer in calendar year. Then I have had offers back to back without prespend.
Given my experience, history and relationship with your store as well as your SA matter. Really matter! Unfortunately complaining you are not being offered a bag, is likely to make being offered a quota bag even less. The fact you had an offer is great (you rejected it due to undesired specs).

I pwild read the advice of others and go reseller route to obtain your specific specs or ask if your specific store will allow for an SO with little prespend. Some stores may be able to do this. You should ask. Best of luck.

 

[luxuryspy]

Wow I am actually impressed you were offered a B30 in a desirable color with basically a 1:1 spend! (Does the $13k include your Herbag? Bags usually don’t count in prespend so maybe you did even better.)

I think you should listen to @880 and @acrowcounted ’s advice. It’s not personal and it sounds like your expectations were not aligned with the current environment. Most people say it takes at least 3x before being offered a QB. You were offered one at 1:1, which to me sounds like the store is trying to make you happy! They didn’t offer you GHW because they didn’t have it, not because they were trying to toy with you, but maybe next bag that comes in will have GHW. My first quota bag had none of the specs I wanted, except it was gold. I wanted sellier, got retourne, I wanted GHW, got PHW, I wanted 25, got 28. I actually disliked that bag for a long time! (But now I love it!)
But I agree with @acrowcounted that you are close.

Although it does sound like this is stressing you out a lot, so you may want to consider @haute okole ‘s advice and step away. For now at least! Good luck! Hope the next GHW Birkin is yours!

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Hi. This comes from a good place but I think believe you may need to lower your expectations. Most people (not all) on this sub forum are hoping to be offered a quota bag in just about any spec. At my H store, with such low prespend, I do not believe you would have an SA stay with you, order items for you, and much less offer you a bag. If you have read and learned from the generous posts on this forum, a prespend of 13-15k is not noticiable at Hermes.
As I have posted previously (as well as others), there are periods and I have spent over 60-80k without an offer in calendar year. Then I have had offers back to back without prespend.
Given my experience, history and relationship with your store as well as your SA matter. Really matter! Unfortunately complaining you are not being offered a bag, is likely to make being offered a quota bag even less. The fact you had an offer is great (you rejected it due to undesired specs).

I pwild read the advice of others and go reseller route to obtain your specific specs or ask if your specific store will allow for an SO with little prespend. Some stores may be able to do this. You should ask. Best of luck.

I’m trying grateful for this lovely group and the honesty. I will take some days off to process everything and calm down and revisit the boutique in beginning of year before price increase

 

[880]

a fun shopping buddy in your SA.

One should have fun shopping luxury, and that’s what most of us expect from a luxury SA People who are best friends with their SAs are few and far between.

I’ve spent too much money to go to the reseller route

There is no guarantee of a specific bag with prespend. Most of us would consider you extremely fortunate to have been offered a bag with such great specs.

At my H store, with such low prespend, I do not believe you would have an SA stay with you, order items for you, and much less offer you a bag

Agree 100%. Also agree with @acrowcounted , @Bdbunny , @haute okole , @Midge Maisel , @lala_retro , and others who have suggested you step away from H shopping to regain composure and equilibrium

and revisit the boutique in beginning of year before price increase

Hermes offers come irrespective of timing (price increase or holidays) I would not assume that another offer would come before the price increase.

I would try to manage your expectations to avoid tears or self -recrimination (your statement what was wrong with me) If it makes you feel better, I really don’t think your SAs were lying to you.

 

[h_collector]

Hi Hermes lovers and this wonderful group! I would like to share my experience with Hermès. I started my journey last year back in April. I started off small and thought I found a SA that i clicked with . At that time I purchased Orans sandals and perfume. I explained at that time I wanted a Herbag 31 in Orange. SA K would keep an eye open. At that moment no follow up I tried texting no response. So I went back to boutique 3 months later and found a different SA who was a fresh breath of air helped me order some house wear and asked me about my wishlist. And I explained that I was working with SA Q and stated that I would like to change SA and would you be willing to be my main SA . New SA stated sure . She was able to produce the Herbag in the right color and size . I explained I would like to have Birkin in 30 with gold hardware neutral colors . Main SA put information into iPhone. Months later I went back and purchased more items I’m at 5k pre spend and no bag . Last year I went back to purchase some beach sandals and asked her to place and order of green oasis she didn’t even bother to check just stated it was sold out . I told SA to keep an eye out if one pops up . So later that day I called customer service and was told Madison store had my pair and I was able to call the store to purchase by them sending me a link . Main SA would only call to offer things that would only make SA monthly goals . I felt that she taking advantage of me and I pause my shopping with SA for Dec 2022. I was very disappointed that I didn’t get a B30 . I saw other people getting bags and was just what is wrong with me ?? This journey has put me through mental breakdown. I told myself I would reach back out through text to see if main Sa can find my Chypre sandals she stated she would put an order. A week later . So a week later I stop by into boutique just to browse around to see if new things were available and I asked about the cypher sands and SA told me oh I can place an order , but last week SA told me the order was placed! SA completely lie to me but I told myself again that I’m done ! Going into 11/2023 I drop by the boutique because I wanted a gold ring , scarf, mules , RTW and a couple of books. Pre spend now 13k I asked again about my b30 and she shook her head and stated stock is low and no bags available etc ….. you know bs lies ! So I saw the manager and explained this whole situation that I been waiting patiently and not been offered my wishlist bag manager check my profile and walk to the back where my main SA was and had a talk with SA . I noticed her demeanor has changed and stated I need yo update your wishlist what are you interested in and we will start working on your bag .



This is SA even offered me a pegasus that I’ve been wanting for two years now that I’ve paid for . So today SA calls and offers me a B30 in Vert Amade with silver hardware something I did not request on my wishlist! I politely declined the bag and explained per whishlist the only hardware is gold , provided colors and size . Now SA stated it doesn’t work like that you only get one choice to pick and maybe something would come next year ! I’m so emotionally drained and have tried to keep a positive outlook but I feel devastated any helpful advice would be appreciated ! sorry for being long winded

I spent more than 150.000€ (approx. $164.000 US) in my boutique during 2023 and did not get Chypre sandals in my specific size/color! Chypre sandals are very rare and hard to get. So pleeease don't take this personal. Demand is crazy these days..

 

[Bdbunny]

I spend more than 150.000€ (approx. $164.000 US) in my boutique during 2023 and did not get Chypre sandals in my specific size/color! Chypre sandals are very rare and hard to get. So pleeease don't take this personal. Demand is crazy these days..

yes, when my SA offered me a pair of black chypres in my size, he said they're the "Birkin of shoes"!

 

[Tykhe]

I spend more than 150.000€ (approx. $164.000 US) in my boutique during 2023 and did not get Chypre sandals in my specific size/color! Chypre sandals are very rare and hard to get. So pleeease don't take this personal. Demand is crazy these days..

The chypre sandals often appear on the website. As of right now the US website has them in stock in several colors and materials. I purchased mine during the Madison reopening. They were simply lying out in the open hah hah.

But as for the prespend, I think I approach shopping At Hermes like I approach gambling at a casino. As long as you are having fun, keep trying for the payout. However, the second you start getting frustrated and it isn’t fun anymore, you need to stop. It is a game and you can’t force a win.

 

[Bdbunny]

The chypre sandals often appear on the website. As of right now the US website has them in stock in several colors and materials. I purchased mine during the Madison reopening. They were simply lying out in the open hah hah.

the website never has my size available!! 😭😭 well, except the $5000 alligator ones LOL!

 

[h_collector]

The chypre sandals often appear on the website. As of right now the US website has them in stock in several colors and materials. I purchased mine during the Madison reopening. They were simply lying out in the open hah hah.

Thank you! Same for Europe.. but unfortunately never the color/style I want

 

[luxuryspy]

You’re probably going to have to spend in Paris as well unless you get super super lucky with the lottery and then doubly lucky with an SA there who wants to get you a bag and also has available exactly what you are looking for that day. Paris is almost as difficult as any other store these days.

I know it can be emotionally difficult starting out but I would recommend taking some time off to cool down a bit and then maybe looking at it more rationally. It’s truly not personal you just unfortunately haven’t met the unspoken “requirements“ for getting the bag you want yet, but I do believe you are very close given that you just received an excellent offer. It would be silly, in my mind, to walk away over emotions at this point but I wish you good luck with whatever you decide.

Thank you so very much dear for the encouraging words! I will pray for a better outcome and hopefully early 2024 my bag is ready for me . My husband stated he is on this crazy journey with me now and that I’m not a quitter and I will get 2 bags due to he has history as well . I feel much better than yesterday and I trust the process and all of the items I’ve purchased I truly appreciate and enjoy. Happy holidays to you and everyone that gave me their honest feedback ❤️🎄🎁

 

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Thank you so very much dear for the encouraging words! I will pray for a better outcome and hopefully early 2024 my bag is ready for me . My husband stated he is on this crazy journey with me now and that I’m not a quitter and I will get 2 bags due to he has history as well . I feel much better than yesterday and I trust the process and all of the items I’ve purchased I truly appreciate and enjoy. Happy holidays to you and everyone that gave me their honest feedback ❤️🎄🎁

Dear @luxuryspy,
I have to tell you that you are not the only one here. Please be aware that many people here may be "calm" because they already have at least 1 quota bag.🤣 [Who knows?] I can tell you confidently that I was in your shoes when I was trying to get my first quota bag. (I may have been even more emotional than you were when I tried so hard to get the first one.🤣🤣)

Ultimately, I really hope you will get it. Please also be aware that H wants you to experience the best as well. They do care about customers (although some SAs are totally jerks or think as if they are the H... lol). Happy Holidays!! :🥰