Spend threshold for B/K/C

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Interesting. My H SAs in NY and Paris said there is no workdwide linkage, no QB tracking yet. I was specifically told my Paris K25 doesn’t count towards my local allotment. A London SA told me that his clients still go to Paris to get an ‘extra’ QB. I believe that another member posted that it may be possible to track QB purchases workdwide at the corporate level. I’m not certain how strictly ones SA or SM scrutinizes or applies the QB limit.

Perhaps the more you spend, the more elastic the rules become, but I have neither the desire nor budget to test that theory. (In other words, if someone furnishes multiple homes in H furniture and/or does multiple Horizons projects, I think it would be ridiculous to say you can only have two QB annually). So, I would advise, when in doubt, just ask your own SA and adjust your behavior to follow that guidance

my statement that all accts are under one name meant in NY, DH and I share an acct in his name
in Paris DH and I share an acct in his name. i did not mean to imply that these accts are linked (yet). But, for RTW and accessories purchases, I would prefer linkage so as to keep track of sizes and colorways.
Yeah I remember seeing my SA’s phone and my profile showed b/k with a # indicating the count but not the type of bag. Recently after chatting, saw her type something into my profile so assuming there is also a ‘notes’ section. In FSH last Sept, the Paris SA said H was working on Paris being able to view customer’s global purchases but this capability was not in the plans outside of France. Tbh that’s what they said at the time and no idea of what H has implemented tech wise but it makes sense for the mothership to have full view.

I concur that scoring a qb in Paris is a ‘bonus’ and doesn’t count towards qb quota. Also learned that because of inventory supply, relationships, clientele, etc; each store has diff policy on spend ratios, qb quota, and so on. Oh and learned for real that some customer tiers can buy whatever and as often as they want!!!

For now I’m Living the Orange Dream, loving all the tPF posts, bag shares, great stories, and how senior and well meaning members help guide noobies.

Happy shopping to everyone !!!
 
I have always wondered how spend is calculated and tracked when an SA has soo many clients.

Do you think SA/SM take a calculator out to do quick math on your spend as they scroll back all your recent purchases.

Or on their H phone app that has your profile and purchase history, spend is already tallied up/categorized from last QB offer, or maybe there is an ability to select a date range (and SA/ store location) so they can add up spend within certain criterias
 
I have always wondered how spend is calculated and tracked when an SA has soo many clients.

Do you think SA/SM take a calculator out to do quick math on your spend as they scroll back all your recent purchases.

Or on their H phone app that has your profile and purchase history, spend is already tallied up/categorized from last QB offer, or maybe there is an ability to select a date range (and SA/ store location) so they can add up spend within certain criterias
I’m guessing the platform is similar to a mobile banking app - put client name, see balance, scroll history, etc ….. all on the same network to the iPad I’ve seen being used and to pc workstations in the back.
 
I have always wondered how spend is calculated and tracked when an SA has soo many clients.

Do you think SA/SM take a calculator out to do quick math on your spend as they scroll back all your recent purchases.

Or on their H phone app that has your profile and purchase history, spend is already tallied up/categorized from last QB offer, or maybe there is an ability to select a date range (and SA/ store location) so they can add up spend within certain criterias
Total spend is a line item on your profile. Unfortunately my DH saw it once over my SAs shoulder…
 
I have always wondered how spend is calculated and tracked when an SA has soo many clients.

Do you think SA/SM take a calculator out to do quick math on your spend as they scroll back all your recent purchases.

Or on their H phone app that has your profile and purchase history, spend is already tallied up/categorized from last QB offer, or maybe there is an ability to select a date range (and SA/ store location) so they can add up spend within certain criterias
My home store SA checked my purchase history on my profile on her phone and toggle between the calculator app to calculate.
 
Hi, In my personal experience, any bags others would buy is not considered pre-spend.
All the SA I had nice conversation with all said only things they 'can't easily sell'...such as Dishes, Clothes, Scarves, Jewelry would count. But bags like Evelyne is very popular and according to them, they can sell it to someone else easily.
So, it is not considered pre-spend. However, if you buy it as you love it and you purchase other items later on.... it might help.
I got 2 Evelyne bags and neither one was took into account when I ask for a quota bag.

That is from my experience at stores in: USA, Canada, Hong Kong, Germany and France.
but some wallets (not kelly not constance wallet) can be considered pre spend.
 
+1000.

In the current post Covid, low stock environment, buying a non QB bag won’t count much if at all

JMO, and YMMV
@elenam12345 , I recalled several other similar inquiries you made re prespend BKC last month and wanted to summarize my answers in this post. I don’t know of any answers to your prior posts that stated an evelyn counted as prespend for a QB post Covid. The most anyone might have said is that in the US, SAs dont generally admit to the existence of an official prespend, and therefore leather bags are not specifically omitted from prespend (like in Asia). In practice, post Covid, stock is so limited, that this simply isn’t the case for the average prospective H client. Since H SAs get little or no credit to their sales goals by selling a bag, the limited QB stock becomes a reward for clients with better purchase history.

These days, paris generally requires a leather appt, usually through lottery. No prespend needed, but there is no guarantee you will get a BKC either. It seems to depend on stock availability and chemistry with your assigned SA. I obtained a Paris appt in February and was fortunate enough to get a 25K without any prior purchase history; zero prespend. Other TPFers who have long standing relationships in Paris (and who can circumvent lottery) have definitively stated that clients who only want QBs are going to fail in developing FSH SA relationships. From the recent posts of other members, it seems that Hermes is currently refusing premier hotel VIP appt Requests.

Since 2021, i have visited stores in Canada, Milan, Rome, London etc., (I skipped Dubai and a few others). Except for Paris, stores seem to prefer to reserve their QB stock for regular clients, not tourists. In several cases, it was difficult for me to get an SA to help bc the stores were so busy. In at least two cases, ordinary stock like RTW was scarce enough that an SA was a bit unwilling to show it to me. This preference for local custom also seems to be the case in Hawaii and Vegas. In the Hawaii thread there are posts indicating that if one is willing to go to Hawaii once or twice a year and spend, a BKC might appear in your second trip (not a second visit in the same trip), but those posts are exceptions not the rule. Most TPFers have specifically posted that Hawaii and Vegas are no longer willing to offer QB to tourists or one off shoppers.

I have a strong, recent relationship with my Home SA, NY Madison. (I stopped shopping boutique in 2012 bc my first SA left and I only recently resumed). It did not take too long for me to get a B30 offer, but post Covid, there was simply very limited stock of B25. Since I already have a sizable H QB collection and no actual wish list, and I like other items, I wasn’t in a rush. By the time I got my gold B25 sellier, my prespend was approximately 5X, excluding leather. Other TPFers have posted comparable ratios for a 25B; I believe 25K is a tiny bit easier. My main focus was RTW (both for me and DH); then home ware; then some bits and pieces, including an H08 watch.

IMO Singapore used to be a bit more openly transactional than the US; IMO, singapore locals do get coveted size QBs with a lower ratio. I read somewhere that, post Covid, Asia received more QB supply than, for example, US flagships.

IMO, if you consider the other items bait, then perhaps you would be better off spending the premium on an (@bababebi ) authenticated QB from a reseller simply bc the resale or consignment of prespend items is often at a significant loss.

JMO and YMMV
 
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As a Canadian client my local store perspective is variety and length of tenure are factors in qb allocation. Our environment is quite competitive that they are considering in the past year if you received any h bag(even non-quota) for non-vips. In the past year with SAs leaving my local store (who made promises) a number of lower/newer spend clients appear to have gotten bags according to their Instagrams and youtube reveals.
 
Good morning ladies can someone clarify if an evelyne is considered bait towards quota or not? I keep hearing mixed reviews.
Can you also respond with what’s not counted towards quota
If you are new and in NY or BH, no less that 4.5:1 on non leather in one visit and you may get a B30 or Constance on your next visit, these days.
 
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