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@Glitterbomb
On your Clover bracelet, I do know the size is stamped on the bangle, so if you have a photo of that, you could check.
I know this because I was at Buccellati, and I did not know my size in Bucclellati. I had taken off my Clover to try on the Buccellati cuffs, and the SA takes my bangle, whips out her loupe, and starts scanning my bangle. She confirmed my bangle hasd a M written on it, for Medium which is how I know the Clover has the size stamped on. Who knew the bangle had the size stamped on it!
Come to this of it, I am going to check out my bangle later to see that size!

Maybe see what size yours is and if the one on FP with the same serial number is now a S. If yes, it's a fake for sure!

The only problem is I can't check the size now because I sold it to FP. I never had to take pictures of it while submitting it to a quote to FP since I dropped it off in person. I don't know if I have a picture of the inside of it showing the size, but I'll look.

However, that bracelet even if it was somehow stamped as an S (which would be a giant mistake for VCA and I can't imagine happening) was for sure not a true S, it fit like an XS and was a true XS. It fit just like the rest of my VCA XS perlee bracelets and stacked with them without any issues.

 

[BigAkoya]

The only problem is I can't check the size now because I sold it to FP. I never had to take pictures of it while submitting it to a quote to FP since I dropped it off in person. I don't know if I have a picture of the inside of it showing the size, but I'll look.

However, that bracelet even if it was somehow stamped as an S (which would be a giant mistake for VCA and I can't imagine happening) was for sure not a true S, it fit like an XS and was a true XS. It fit just like the rest of my VCA XS perlee bracelets and stacked with them without any issues.

Okay... I was a curious cat and went upstairs to check out my bangle.
Found it! My "M" is to the left of the serial number. You can't miss it. If you have a photo of the serial number, you will see the size to the left.

You can also call your SA to look up the serial number to verify the size. That would be proof too.

P.S. You have the best mysteries! You could write a book on this stuff!

 

[Glitterbomb]

Okay... I was a curious cat and went upstairs to check out my bangle.
Found it! My "M" is to the left of the serial number. You can't miss it. If you have a photo of the serial number, you will see the size to the left.

You can also call your SA to look up the serial number to verify the size. That would be proof too.

I edited my original comment with a picture of my receipt (with my personal info redacted). Check it out. It shows it is an XS!!!

 

[BigAkoya]

I edited my original comment with a picture of my receipt (with my personal info redacted). Check it out. It shows it is an XS!!!

Wow! So I assume this piece you purchased new, not used, as it has your name on the receipt so for sure it's authentic.
It's so crazy the SA mis-typed the size. Now I am going to hike upstairs again to check my receipt! You are making me exercise too much!

 

[Glitterbomb]

Wow! So I assume this piece you purchased new, not used, as it has your name on the receipt so for sure it's authentic.
It's so crazy the SA mis-typed the size. Now I am going to hike upstairs again to check my receipt! You are making me exercise too much!

I don't think she mistyped the size. That's the thing. I believe I really purchased an XS and sent an XS to FP.

Yes, I bought it new at a VCA boutique and it is definitely authentic. Well at least the one I sent over to FP is...who knows about the one they currently have listed on their site.

 

[sjunky13]

I believed you...I just didn't know for sure what had happened after the necklace had been shipped to FP. I know that probably sounds paranoid, and maybe it is, but I freaked out when my SA said it wasn't in the system especially because I didn't know that independent stores wouldn't show up. I also never wanted any private info about where your friend purchased the necklace, just to know if it was purchased in an independent store or not in general, I didn't want any specifics like which location. I completely understand the need for privacy especially when reselling your pieces. One of my own concerns is someone will figure out private information about me from running the serial numbers on items I resell, so I get it. If the answer was that it was not purchased at an independent store, and it truly wasn't showing up in the system, well then it had to be a replica even if your friend sent an authentic necklace into FP. It doesn't necessarily mean I received that same authentic necklace. Luckily my SA just made a mistake typing it in, and it really was in the system after all.

I will also just say this. I sent an XS rose gold perlee 3-row bracelet to FP. Actually, I dropped it off personally in one of their in-store locations. My receipt verifies this bracelet has a specific serial number and is size XS. It was then approved by FP, I was paid for it, and it was listed on their site.

Well. The bracelet on their website is a size S. Yes, it literally says size S on it. With the same serial number that was on my XS & on my receipt. How is this possible? My only working theory is there are some bad apples working at FP who quickly made a replica (or already have a bunch of replicas ready without serial numbers?) in the wrong size, quickly slapped the same serial number on it from my bracelet, and swapped out my real bracelet, kept it (to sell? to keep? who knows), and somehow snuck the replica into the active inventory before pics were taken.

It sounds completely crazy, I admit. But I did not send them a size S, so....how did it turn into one? VCA doesn't reuse serial numbers. I'm at a total complete loss. I guess someone else might say there's a possibility I scammed FP. But of course I know I didn't. I know I sent them the very same XS that I purchased from VCA.

Another possibility, I suppose, is VCA messed up and accidentally sold me a S with that serial number despite my receipt showing XS (and despite the bracelet fitting like my other XS) and my SA & I both never noticed. But that seems unlikely too.


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Did you check the inside of your bangle to see the size? I would see if you can find pics of the inside of your bangle. I believe the receipt to be wrong. I really do not believe fashionphile is selling fakes, or making copies. They are the largest reseller globally and will send jewelry back that doesn't pass inspection. Do mistakes happen? Yes , of course! But to say they are making fakes is a BIG accusation. Did you call them on this?
I am not saying you are wrong or you are in any way presenting wrong info. Did you ever look inside the bangle and see an xs engraved there?
I personally only buy from the boutique, but would buy from someone I trusted. I know it is scary as you really never know. If I were you, I would not buy preloved at all.
@BigAkoya Yes, all bangles are stamped. Either XS, S, M , L or 15, 16,17 etc.

 

[sjunky13]

The only problem is I can't check the size now because I sold it to FP. I never had to take pictures of it while submitting it to a quote to FP since I dropped it off in person. I don't know if I have a picture of the inside of it showing the size, but I'll look.

However, that bracelet even if it was somehow stamped as an S (which would be a giant mistake for VCA and I can't imagine happening) was for sure not a true S, it fit like an XS and was a true XS. It fit just like the rest of my VCA XS perlee bracelets and stacked with them without any issues.

There are instances of VCA XS and S fitting the same. It has been posted in this forum. Also, I had a Perlee bracelet that had a crooked and misaligned hallmark that VCA stamped, ourchased right from the boutqite! They are handmade pieces

The only problem is I can't check the size now because I sold it to FP. I never had to take pictures of it while submitting it to a quote to FP since I dropped it off in person. I don't know if I have a picture of the inside of it showing the size, but I'll look.

However, that bracelet even if it was somehow stamped as an S (which would be a giant mistake for VCA and I can't imagine happening) was for sure not a true S, it fit like an XS and was a true XS. It fit just like the rest of my VCA XS perlee bracelets and stacked with them without any issues.,

Ok, I see you didn't look inside your bracelet.
There have been instances that an XS and S have fit the same. This was posted in the forum. Also I had a Perlee bracelet that had a crooked and misaligned hallmark that I purchased from the boutique. As for sizing , they are handmade and each one could vary in size. I think you should all FP with your concerns of the piece you brought in and what was posted.
I do not want to be rude, I promise it is not my intention. You posted you knew 100% the pendant was fake and accused them of switching it. It turned out to be authentic. It doesn't seem fair to accuse them of something so huge without their knowledge.

 

[Glitterbomb]

There are instances of VCA XS and S fitting the same. It has been posted in this forum. Also, I had a Perlee bracelet that had a crooked and misaligned hallmark that VCA stamped, ourchased right from the boutqite! They are handmade pieces

Ok, I see you didn't look inside your bracelet.
There have been instances that an XS and S have fit the same. This was posted in the forum. Also I had a Perlee bracelet that had a crooked and misaligned hallmark that I purchased from the boutique. As for sizing , they are handmade and each one could vary in size. I think you should all FP with your concerns of the piece you brought in and what was posted.
I do not want to be rude, I promise it is not my intention. You posted you knew 100% the pendant was fake and accused them of switching it. It turned out to be authentic. It doesn't seem fair to accuse them of something so huge without their knowledge.

I'm not accusing them at all. I said I don't know what is going on and that is just my only working theory. I also said it's possible VCA made the mistake by stamping it wrong, but that it seems unlikely. I truly do not know how I sent them an XS and they have an S with the same serial number. No, I don't have a picture of the inside of the bracelet, but it fit the same as my other XS and the size S is huge on me. My receipt says size XS, it is not at all that I am just saying it fit like an XS.

ETA: I also don't think FP is making fakes on a huge scale and scamming loads of people. I have purchased a lot of preloved items from FP and still feel comfortable today purchasing from them. I think it is entirely possible, however, that something like that COULD happen to a couple of pieces without anyone noticing (could - not is).

I said the pendant was fake because I was falsely informed at the time by my trusted SA who told me it wasn't in the system and that meant it was for sure a fake. She didn't even tell me that independent stores wouldn't show up. So yes, I freaked out. I don't think your comments are fair. I made several updates and corrected what I had written when I was informed differently. I never want to accuse anyone or any business of something that is not true, especially not a business that I have been a loyal customer of for years ( (I have bought & sold nearly 1M of merchandise with FP). And honestly, if something like this really has happened at FP, I don't think mentioning my concerns to them will be fruitful. I made sure that this time I did not say 100% for sure that this is what happened as I truly do not know. I am not at all trying to accuse anyone because I do not know what happened. I just know that something did happen, and I can't explain it with the information I currently have, and I think people should be aware to look out for things like this. Take pictures of your items before you drop them off to sell them...check your items and see if they match your receipt even if you buy directly from the boutique. Etc.

 

[BigAkoya]

I believed you...I just didn't know for sure what had happened after the necklace had been shipped to FP. I know that probably sounds paranoid, and maybe it is, but I freaked out when my SA said it wasn't in the system especially because I didn't know that independent stores wouldn't show up. I also never wanted any private info about where your friend purchased the necklace, just to know if it was purchased in an independent store or not in general, I didn't want any specifics like which location. I completely understand the need for privacy especially when reselling your pieces. One of my own concerns is someone will figure out private information about me from running the serial numbers on items I resell, so I get it. If the answer was that it was not purchased at an independent store, and it truly wasn't showing up in the system, well then it had to be a replica even if your friend sent an authentic necklace into FP. It doesn't necessarily mean I received that same authentic necklace. Luckily my SA just made a mistake typing it in, and it really was in the system after all.

I will also just say this. I sent an XS rose gold perlee 3-row bracelet to FP. Actually, I dropped it off personally in one of their in-store locations. My receipt verifies this bracelet has a specific serial number and is size XS. It was then approved by FP, I was paid for it, and it was listed on their site.

Well. The bracelet on their website is a size S. Yes, it literally says size S on it. With the same serial number that was on my XS & on my receipt. How is this possible? My only working theory is there are some bad apples working at FP who quickly made a replica (or already have a bunch of replicas ready without serial numbers?) in the wrong size, quickly slapped the same serial number on it from my bracelet, and swapped out my real bracelet, kept it (to sell? to keep? who knows), and somehow snuck the replica into the active inventory before pics were taken.

It sounds completely crazy, I admit. But I did not send them a size S, so....how did it turn into one? VCA doesn't reuse serial numbers. I'm at a total complete loss. I guess someone else might say there's a possibility I scammed FP. But of course I know I didn't. I know I sent them the very same XS that I purchased from VCA.

Another possibility, I suppose, is VCA messed up and accidentally sold me a S with that serial number despite my receipt showing XS (and despite the bracelet fitting like my other XS) and my SA & I both never noticed. But that seems unlikely too.


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I am not sure when you got your bangle.
However, looking at the photo that FP posted, my bangle has other hallmarks below the size and serial number, but the one on FP does ont. My bangle has two hallmarks below it, and my VCA Au750 is on one line, not two.
It may be VCA changing around the stamping from year to year, but I thought all pieces had to have the Hallmarks which the photo of your bracelet on FP is lacking.

Like this... I grabbed this off another bangle on FP. The markings of the bangle below are exactly like mine.
However, your bangle photo on FP is missing those two hallmarks. It's a bummer you do not have a photo of your original bangle with the stamps.

The left is the French Eagle Hallmark indicating it is 18K gold (required by law as I recall). I forgot what the right one is.

 

[nicole0612]

I'm not accusing them at all. I said I don't know what is going on and that is just my only working theory. I also said it's possible VCA made the mistake by stamping it wrong, but that it seems unlikely. I truly do not know how I sent them an XS and they have an S with the same serial number. No, I don't have a picture of the inside of the bracelet, but it fit the same as my other XS and the size S is huge on me. My receipt says size XS, it is not at all that I am just saying it fit like an XS.

ETA: I also don't think FP is making fakes on a huge scale and scamming loads of people. I have purchased a lot of preloved items from FP and still feel comfortable today purchasing from them. I think it is entirely possible, however, that something like that COULD happen to a couple of pieces without anyone noticing (could - not is).

I said the pendant was fake because I was falsely informed at the time by my trusted SA who told me it wasn't in the system and that meant it was for sure a fake. She didn't even tell me that independent stores wouldn't show up. So yes, I freaked out. I don't think your comments are fair. I made several updates and corrected what I had written when I was informed differently. I never want to accuse anyone or any business of something that is not true, especially not a business that I have been a loyal customer of for years ( (I have bought & sold nearly 1M of merchandise with FP). And honestly, if something like this really has happened at FP, I don't think mentioning my concerns to them will be fruitful. I made sure that this time I did not say 100% for sure that this is what happened as I truly do not know. I am not at all trying to accuse anyone because I do not know what happened. I just know that something did happen, and I can't explain it with the information I currently have, and I think people should be aware to look out for things like this. Take pictures of your items before you drop them off to sell them...check your items and see if they match your receipt even if you buy directly from the boutique. Etc.

Here is a thought, just a thought, but a possible explanation.
I had read about this before but couldn’t remember the exact details so I copied the text below from a thread about it here on tPF:

Prior to ~Nov 2018, the small and medium Perlee bracelets were different sizes than they currently are, and there was quite a difference in those 2 sizes. Then they came out with a 3rd size, which is between the original small and medium sizes and they called that new size small and renamed the original small as extra small.

I wonder if you purchased a bracelet created before the size change over and it was labeled as “s” but is actually the new size “xs”?

 

[Glitterbomb]

Here is a thought, just a thought, but a possible explanation.
I had read about this before but couldn’t remember the exact details so I copied the text below from a thread about it here on tPF:

Prior to ~Nov 2018, the small and medium Perlee bracelets were different sizes than they currently are, and there was quite a difference in those 2 sizes. Then they came out with a 3rd size, which is between the original small and medium sizes and they called that new size small and renamed the original small as extra small.

I wonder if you purchased a bracelet created before the size change over and it was labeled as “s” but is actually the new size “xs”?

I purchased it in 2021, but possibly it was an older model?

 

[sjunky13]

I'm not accusing them at all. I said I don't know what is going on and that is just my only working theory. I also said it's possible VCA made the mistake by stamping it wrong, but that it seems unlikely. I truly do not know how I sent them an XS and they have an S with the same serial number. No, I don't have a picture of the inside of the bracelet, but it fit the same as my other XS and the size S is huge on me. My receipt says size XS, it is not at all that I am just saying it fit like an XS.

ETA: I also don't think FP is making fakes on a huge scale and scamming loads of people. I have purchased a lot of preloved items from FP and still feel comfortable today purchasing from them. I think it is entirely possible, however, that something like that COULD happen to a couple of pieces without anyone noticing (could - not is).

I said the pendant was fake because I was falsely informed at the time by my trusted SA who told me it wasn't in the system and that meant it was for sure a fake. She didn't even tell me that independent stores wouldn't show up. So yes, I freaked out. I don't think your comments are fair. I made several updates and corrected what I had written when I was informed differently. I never want to accuse anyone or any business of something that is not true, especially not a business that I have been a loyal customer of for years ( (I have bought & sold nearly 1M of merchandise with FP). And honestly, if something like this really has happened at FP, I don't think mentioning my concerns to them will be fruitful. I made sure that this time I did not say 100% for sure that this is what happened as I truly do not know. I am not at all trying to accuse anyone because I do not know what happened. I just know that something did happen, and I can't explain it with the information I currently have, and I think people should be aware to look out for things like this. Take pictures of your items before you drop them off to sell them...check your items and see if they match your receipt even if you buy directly from the boutique. Etc.

You are accusing them though. How are my comments not fair when I am quoting you? You said you knew the pendant was 100% fake. It felt different and the light hit it different. These are your words, not mine. I am not FP , I do not have a dog in this race. I think it is good to bring up points to be aware about absolutely. Everyone should be be diligent . I said my comments were not coming from a place of being rude or causing hurt. I am really not trying to attack you, but to point on that posting these things on a public forum could be dangerous . Posters have been sued by making claims on this forum before. I think coversations between you and FP should happen if you feel so strongly about this. I will bow out of this. It is between you and fashionphile .

 

[Glitterbomb]

You are accusing them though. How are my comments not fair when I am quoting you? You said you knew the pendant was 100% fake. It felt different and the light hit it different. These are your words, not mine. I am not FP , I do not have a dog in this race. I think it is good to bring up points to be aware about absolutely. Everyone should be be diligent . I said my comments were not coming from a place of being rude or causing hurt. I am really not trying to attack you, but to point on that posting these things on a public forum could be dangerous . Posters have been sued by making claims on this forum before. I think coversations between you and FP should happen if you feel so strongly about this. I will bow out of this. It is between you and fashionphile .

In this specific situation I am not accusing them. I said repeatedly I do not know what happened or how to explain it.

The first time, yes I did say the pendant was 100% fake based on false information I received from my VCA SA, and I corrected myself when I was informed differently.

 

[glamourbag]

Here is a thought, just a thought, but a possible explanation.
I had read about this before but couldn’t remember the exact details so I copied the text below from a thread about it here on tPF:

Prior to ~Nov 2018, the small and medium Perlee bracelets were different sizes than they currently are, and there was quite a difference in those 2 sizes. Then they came out with a 3rd size, which is between the original small and medium sizes and they called that new size small and renamed the original small as extra small.

I wonder if you purchased a bracelet created before the size change over and it was labeled as “s” but is actually the new size “xs”?

Yes this crossed my mind too.

 

[sjunky13]

I am not sure when you got your bangle.
However, looking at the photo that FP posted, my bangle has other hallmarks below the size and serial number, but the one on FP does ont. My bangle has two hallmarks below it, and my VCA Au750 is on one line, not two.
It may be VCA changing around the stamping from year to year, but I thought all pieces had to have the Hallmarks which the photo of your bracelet on FP is lacking.

Like this... I grabbed this off another bangle on FP. The markings of the bangle below are exactly like mine.
However, your bangle photo on FP is missing those two hallmarks. It's a bummer you do not have a photo of your original bangle with the stamps.

The left is the French Eagle Hallmark indicating it is 18K gold (required by law as I recall). I forgot what the right one is.
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VCA is not consistent with hallmarks at all. Mine was on the white gold part that clasps inside and not under the serial number.