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[BigAkoya]

VCA is not consistent with hallmarks at all. Mine was on the white gold part that clasps inside and not under the serial number.

Too bad there are no original photos. @Glitterbomb purchased her bangle in 2021, so it's pretty new. I purchased mine in early Feb 2022, and it has those markings in the same place.

@Glitterbomb The XS and Small sizing was already changed by the time you got your bangle, so that negates that sizing confusion theory. Another mystery.

 

[sjunky13]

Here is a thought, just a thought, but a possible explanation.
I had read about this before but couldn’t remember the exact details so I copied the text below from a thread about it here on tPF:

Prior to ~Nov 2018, the small and medium Perlee bracelets were different sizes than they currently are, and there was quite a difference in those 2 sizes. Then they came out with a 3rd size, which is between the original small and medium sizes and they called that new size small and renamed the original small as extra small.

I wonder if you purchased a bracelet created before the size change over and it was labeled as “s” but is actually the new size “xs”?

This may be a reasonable explanation! But that would mean the bracelet to be old. I remember a poster recently purchased a Perlee bangle and the xs and s were the same size. Does that ring a bell?

 

[sjunky13]

Too bad there are no original photos. @Glitterbomb purchased her bangle in 2021, so it's pretty new. I purchased mine in early Feb 2022, and it has those markings in the same place.

@Glitterbomb The XS and Small sizing was already changed by the time you got your bangle, so that negates that sizing confusion theory. Another mystery.

My signature bangle was 2018? I think.
The eagle head is on the white metal thing. Do you have anything there?

 

[880]

It is scary. But I don't think I'm an expert at all! All I can say is I know without a doubt that I purchased that bracelet myself, in person, at my VCA boutique, and I dropped the very same bracelet off in person at FP. I can't explain how it is a size S with the same serial number.

I have purchased quite a lot of preloved pieces from FP myself so it is very concerning.

Perhaps FP made a mistake on the size? And what they call small is really your XS?

ETA: or the answer is as per @sjunky13 S=XS?

 

[BigAkoya]

My signature bangle was 2018? I think.
The eagle head is on the white metal thing. Do you have anything there?

The photo I grabbed from a Clover listed on FP was purchased in 2019. It has the same hallmark stamp locations as mine (purchased 2022), so it looks like the stamping changed from 2018 (yours) to 2019.

@Glitterbomb If you purchased your bangle in 2021, it should have the same new hallmark stamp locations. Now I think something is off as you said.

This can be fun. I love following a good case!

See the two photos below:

Photo from Clover listed on FP that was purchased in 2019 (the placement is the same as my bangle purchased in 2022):




@Glitterbomb
I reposted the photo you posted earlier of your bracelet listed as a Small. The hallmarks are not in the same position (wherever they might be).

 

[sjunky13]

Here is mine.
My eagle head is on the white part and crooked! lol.




It could be Glitterbomb was sold an older style bangle. As the one of FP looks like mine.

 

[BigAkoya]

Here is mine.
My eagle head is on the white part and crooked! lol.

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Yes, but your is 2018. Mine is 2022, and the Clover I posted from 2019 has the halmarks in the new position.
Surely @Glitterbomb's bangle from 2021 bangle has the new position.

 

[BigAkoya]

Perhaps FP made a mistake on the size? And what they call small is really your XS?

ETA: or the answer is as per @sjunky13 S=XS?

Nope... can't be. Her bracelet is too new, purchased in 2021. It is past the S / XS confusion that was in 2018.
This is like a great court case... can't wait to hear the final verdict.

 

[sjunky13]

Yes, but your is 2018. Mine is 2022, and the Clover I posted from 2019 has the halmarks in the new position.
Surely @Glitterbomb's bangle from 2021 bangle has the new position.

Her bangle is a 3 row. Maybe not as popular are the clover? I honestly do not know. It could be an older piece or the SA put the wrong size on the receipt?

In any case, they sure are not consistent. I know Cartier changes a lot too. Not to this extent.

 

[BigAkoya]

Her bangle is a 3 row. Maybe not as popular are the clover? I honestly do not know. It could be an older piece or the SA put the wrong size on the receipt?

In any case, they sure are not consistent. I know Cartier changes a lot too. Not to this extent.

Yes, that could be it too.
All I can say is buying used is for the brave and trained! I see the use of different fonts as well, so I definitely know I will not be able to tell a real from a fake.

@Glitterbomb I hate to dig this up further, but one way to zero out SA error is to ask the SA to look up the bracelet in the system and see if VCA shows it as a S or XS. That will narrow it down. If VCA database says it's a Snall, then you know it was probably the SA's typo error on the receipt. If VCA says the bracelet is a XS, then yikes.

 

[glamourbag]

I don’t know if the clover and the 3 row diamond are the same stamping wise so I’m not sure it’s a fair comparison but just for the fun of it I went to check my wg clover I purchased in 2021. It was straight from Paris shipped to my store and I was the only client to touch it. Purchased at a vca boutique. It has the VCA engraving, the Au750, the size and the code but no eagle and no other hallmarks lol. Seems there is quite a bit of variance.

 

[sjunky13]

I don’t know if the clover and the 3 row diamond are the same stamping wise so I’m not sure it’s a fair comparison but just for the fun of it I went to check my wg clover I purchased in 2021. It was straight from Paris shipped to my store and I was the only client to touch it. Purchased at a vca boutique. It has the VCA engraving, the Au750, the size and the code but no eagle and no other hallmarks lol. Seems there is quite a bit of variance.

Very true! They may be different. Is your eagle on the white part?
Like Big A said the font is even different.

 

[BigAkoya]

I don’t know if the clover and the 3 row diamond are the same stamping wise so I’m not sure it’s a fair comparison but just for the fun of it I went to check my wg clover I purchased in 2021. It was straight from Paris shipped to my store and I was the only client to touch it. Purchased at a vca boutique. It has the VCA engraving, the Au750, the size and the code but no eagle and no other hallmarks lol. Seems there is quite a bit of variance.

I kind of wish I had requested a European size stamped bangle (not even sure if that's even possible for the American market).
Does yours have the cool European 17 sizing (I think 17 is medium). Mine has the boring American "M" stamp (for Medium).

 

[sjunky13]

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I kind of wish I had requested a European size stamped bangle (not even sure if that's even possible for the American market).
Does yours have the cool European 17 sizing (I think 17 is medium). Mine has the boring American "M" stamp (for Medium).

t's funny you mentioned that. On the US website, they used to list them by S, M , L. Now it says 15, 16. I wonder if you get the Euro size if you order online?

 

[BigAkoya]

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t's funny you mentioned that. On the US website, they used to list them by S, M , L. Now it says 15, 16. I wonder if you get the Euro size if you order online?

I want an exchange! I want the cool 17 stamp!

If I ever get past the annoying jingle and get a second Clover, I think I am going to ask for the cool European sizing.
But hmm... now my bangles won't match and that will annoy me.
But hmm again... by now, there may be new hallmark stamping and a total mismatch to my first bangle... super annoying!

You gotta love VCA. To your point though, I hope VCA changed the bangle sizing to Euro sizing. Their rings are Euro sizing, so why not the bangle?