Prince Harry and Meghan Markle thread

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I kindly request that all members participating in the MM and Harry thread dial back the vile rhetoric.

I am not opposed to discussing public personas on TPF, including the constant torrent of news surrounding the couple from this thread. But I find it troubling when their looks are being nitpicked apart to a degree that is just not appropriate.

This thread has drawn criticism over the years, and I discussed it at great length with Megs and the mods. I am not looking to close it down, but the vitriol needs to be dialed back.

My personal feelings about hate threads aside, this ultra-negative vibe is something better suited for other forums, Reddit, or elsewhere. I am holding our community to higher standards.

Thanks for reading.
 
Maybe she will relaunch the Tig on the coronation day. it wouldn’t get as much traction as a “conscious uncoupling” announcement though…


Looks like she won't be attending the coronation, but she should at least send a thank you card for the many millions she's making just at BRF's expense. :girlsigh: It seems she's also getting an Archefools/Spotify season 2. :annoyed:

About the Tig:

"At the time she was earning up to £60,000 ($80,000)-a-year through advertising, according to reports. And it's expected a relaunch could easily break the £1million mark."
 
IF it happens, a divorce will not really solve much. I think it will exacerbate all the nastiness that forms the basis of the marriage and result in both parties running amok. H will suffer most, because, unlike TW, he has not lived a lifetime Markle style, cutting people off and piling relationships on an ever growing refuse pile while moving on.

I don’t think he is intellectually or emotionally able to manage. Supposedly he has been in therapy for years, and, yet what we see today is not indicative of sound mental health.

TW never demonstrated any respect or deference as a member of the Firm. As an “ex” her truths will slash and burn. Her demented sugars will deify her faux feminism in taking a stand to unload some baggage they perceive as holding her back.

Both narcissists will blame their usual targets, the Royal Family, the media, never taking any responsibility for their actions. TW will blame H. He, however, is incapable I think of admitting his collossal error in judgement and blowing off the cautions of his family to marry her, so he will focus on RF and media.

There will be new rings to the Circus. Where will H live, how will H live? Will the King pay the bills for his grandchildren? How will the children be brought into the family so they finally have an opportunity to experience grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins? Who and how will custody of the children be determined? How will the RF handle the potential merching TW will likely pursue? Dior children? Will the family do an Intervention to get H into Rehab? What, if anything, will be done about titles? Can the children be removed from the LOS? Ludicrous to think they come before Anne, for example. Etc, etc, etc.

It will be ugly, it will go on forever. Toxic ash from the implosion will fill the air interminably.
 
I always wonder how interested and involved Charles was as a parent. There are so many rumors. It is hard to distinguish fact from fiction. One thing that seemed apparent to me was that William seemed to feel a lot of anger towards him. You could see t in his facial expressions when they were photographed together in earlier years, and I also thought that his requirement that Charles must seek William’s permission before any photos of the kids are taken or released.

Bring this up because I’m not sure that Charles will actually have a real interest in Archie and Lili, especially if they are not allowed in the succession plan due to surrogacy. Also especially if the rumors Achie having real behavioral problems are true. I think that if there is a divorce, the surrogacy will be revealed and the kids will be taken off the webpage. Aside from their useless in America titles, they will be merch-less. If they have behavior problems, the brf can wipe their hands and say, well, WE didn’t cause this. If there are real problems, I don’t see Charles wanting to deal with it. I also think William and Catherine would not want to get involved due to TW as well as wanting to focus on their own children and royal duties.

I realize that is cynical, but those are my thoughts.
 
Some have said she was invited because it was the polite thing to do. in this case I think that bad insulting behavior took precedence over politeness. They had no problem keeping her from Balmoral. They did her a favor if they excluded her.

All the stupid lip flapping about their demands was just a smokescreen to hide the fact that she wasn’t invited and that she probably didn’t want Harry to go as the excuses would cover him as well. So how is Harry going to explain his presence? Tell a lie that TK apologized to him? We know why he is there. It is solely to maintain his royal adjacency. Without it, he is just another guy with a title and nothing attached to it.
 
I think that Meghan wants the narrative to be that she was invited and chose not to go. How else can she bang the "I'm not welcome" and "victim" drum?. Makes her seem like she's not invited and makes the convo about HER. Once again.
The good news for them and their supporters is that they often say whatever they want, regardless of whether it contradicts something else they've said, and few people seem to call them on it. So, I expect we'll see ALL the narratives. She was invited, but snubbed them because racism and she's such a good mom. But also, she was victimized by her and Harry's role that would have been lesser than the Wales, so that wasn't fair.

Logic, consistency, and critical thinking don't play much of a role in Harkle-PR land. And based on what we've seen so far, they not only get away with it, but are often rewarded/awarded for it.
 
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