Prince Harry and Meghan Markle thread

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I kindly request that all members participating in the MM and Harry thread dial back the vile rhetoric.

I am not opposed to discussing public personas on TPF, including the constant torrent of news surrounding the couple from this thread. But I find it troubling when their looks are being nitpicked apart to a degree that is just not appropriate.

This thread has drawn criticism over the years, and I discussed it at great length with Megs and the mods. I am not looking to close it down, but the vitriol needs to be dialed back.

My personal feelings about hate threads aside, this ultra-negative vibe is something better suited for other forums, Reddit, or elsewhere. I am holding our community to higher standards.

Thanks for reading.
 
I understand there is exaggeration and embellishment in writing these impact reports, but the Harkles seem to have gone too far imo. The dollar amounts were provided by their minister of propaganda.

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So even by the puff piece analysis they spent less than a quarter of their earnings on charity? Sounds a bit dodgy. Omid give it up.
I keep seeing headlines about KC wanting H (and therefore M) at the coronation. I think this is a bad idea. The press attention will be focused on H&M.
I agree. Keep them out.

Omid, please stop embarrassing yourself. Come join us!
They don’t care about you anymore and admitting you just publish anything without checking it aka any of the old ‘journalism’ is just embarrassing.
I think this is the part of the H&M saga that I find so fascinating. I wonder if the two of them have ever taken a step back and examined the timing of the shift in their popularity more closely and taken any ownership of the rapid descent.…

They claim they were so popular when Meghan first entered the RF scene that others in the RF were jealous of the attention they were receiving, so Camilla, Prince (now King) Charles and others launched a smear campaign against them (or, at a minimum, they claim the RF did nothing to stop the press attacks against them). All the while H&M say they were forced to sit idly by in silence.

Yet now that H&M have abandoned their RF duties and are in full control of their story, able to voice every complaint they’ve ever had, their popularity has gone straight down, on both sides of the ocean now.

So, in a nutshell, they felt attacked and stifled when entrenched in the RF, unable to defend themselves, yet since leaving and finally being able to voice their own “defense”, they have actually done more damage to their own reputations than any supposed smear campaign by the RF or the British press ever did. Talk about a self inflicted wound. Ohhhh, the irony.
I agree.
It’s also funny they ignore the Palace PR are the ones setting up all this positive pr - wedding, designer wardrobe, international tours etc etc.

I mean even in normal families different relatives have their days in the sun. I mean no normal person would walk around their cousin’s wedding saying ‘look at me! I’m much more successful and interesting than her!’ - oh wait that’s exactly what H&M did.
Deep dive on Reddit about MM suicide thoughts , the night of the cirque du soleil gala in London, MM wore navy sequin formal
Anyway, Reddit poster put 2 and 2 together, navy sequins were the night of a visit to a filmed animal shelter - wearing beige dress and open coat. key conclusions …
1. Morning visit to shelter. Definitely a loud mystery noise on video when MM gets up from squat. Could be a moonbump burp ??? there is a noise, why ??
2. Arguably, moonbump goes up and down in the shelter videos
3. MM goes home, collapses in tears when Harry comes home to dress for gala
COULD IT BE ??? suicide ideation was caused by moonbump wardrobe malfunction Earlier in the day ???

sorry the link is soooo long… but I wanted to show the receipts. As always, allegedly, receipts are murky but all this happened on same day


Wow was that involved.

The thing that strikes me is it’s so bizarre H is like ‘no one would let us not go to the circus! It’ll be a scandal if we don’t go to the circus!’
Lol I don’t think anyone would give a ****
Also didn’t they skip some boring military engagement to go the lion king when he’s meant to be the patron saint of soldiers? Doesn’t add up.
But why do (normal) people wear them? Is there a strong market for these?
I was about to say acting and modelling but maybe it’s to ensure you get a seat on the tube… £20 well spent! :lol:

I’d much rather Jill Zarin turn up than H tbh.
LOL..this was on the Archewell site? Did Prince Harry the man-child access it?? :lol:
Spreading positive masculinity while whining that my brother broke my necklace to every news outlet that would listen...
It’d be very interesting to read M’s guide to positive femininity:-
‘Remember all other women are insanely jealous of you so you’ve got to spread as many rumours about them as possible before they get in first’

I’ve never got the point of that charity honestly. Britain has loads of charity shops so it’s not exactly difficult to get second hand office wear.
I don’t think what’s hindering the unemployed is not they can’t get a white shirt and suit pants it’s either lack of work or relevant experience or how hard it is to negotiate a job around any chronic health conditions. I’m pretty sure you can interview at a fast food joint in trackies and get the job but if you can’t fit a shift pattern and they have to make allowances for you chances are they will go with someone else and then higher education is a big financial commitment that might not pay off
 
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How would she be able to seize the trust fund that I guess holds the money he inherited from his mother?

Harry already stated that money shouldn't be touched and is going to Archie (obviously Lil is the spare).

All MegZ has to do is keep a hold of A - whatever happens.

It may have been Hs way of keeping the money out her hands as in "we can't spend that, it's for Archie". We know how good she is at spending other people's money.
 
The thing that strikes me is it’s so bizarre H is like ‘no one would let us not go to the circus! It’ll be a scandal if we don’t go to the circus’
Lol I don’t think anyone would give a ****
Also didn’t they skip some boring military engagement to go the lion king when he’s meant to be the patron saint of soldiers? Doesn’t add up.

Isn't pregnancy, real or fake, the BEST excuse? Tons of little ailments you can claim that don't necessarily mean huge alarm, just enough discomfort to cancel an engagement.
 
Isn't pregnancy, real or fake, the BEST excuse? Tons of little ailments you can claim that don't necessarily mean huge alarm, just enough discomfort to cancel an engagement.
Exactly I definitely used the pregnancy excuse before. :graucho:

Also they are just sitting in a box watching the show- it’s not like they had to do a speech or meet people or anything where their presence is important. Why would it matter?

tbh I think they/she chose this event precisely because there wouldn’t be cameras on them for most of it and she wouldn’t have to keep up the charade of being miserable and therefore un-photogenic for hours on end as we all know she can’t act and only wanted good pics published.
 
How would she be able to seize the trust fund that I guess holds the money he inherited from his mother?
H already has full control of the trust fund set up by Diana. The Trustees for that were Diana’s sisters. The terms of the trust originally set age 25 for the time the 2 boys could get full access. Prior to that, they would have access only to the income generated. The trustees, pushed back the age to 30 for when they could access the entire trust fund. H is 38 so he got full access to his Trust Fund well before he married TW. So I suspect the article is referring to trust funds that were set up for various royal family members by past monarchs and their spouses. Anne may be the current Trustee for many or all of these trusts. In her capacity as Trustee, depending on the language in the various Trusts, she probably has the ability to push back the dates when various beneficiaries can access the entire Trust fund and not just the income. That is assuming such trusts exist. it’s been mentioned several times in this thread and the QEII thread that the Queen Mother may have set up a Trust for H before she died. There may also be older generational trusts set up by previous Kings and Queens. The Monarch and the Heir already stand to inherit a fortune so family trusts are probably set up to benefit family members further down the LOS who will not receive income from the Crown Estates and the Duchy of Lancaster (the current King or Queen) and the Duchy of Cornwall (current Prince of Wales). Just guessing here since there is very little public info about BRF’s private finances.
 
I don’t think what’s hindering the unemployed is not they can’t get a white shirt and suit pants it’s either lack of work or relevant experience or how hard it is to negotiate a job around any chronic health conditions. I’m pretty sure you can interview at a fast food joint in trackies and get the job but if you can’t fit a shift pattern and they have to make allowances for you chances are they will go with someone else and then higher education is a big financial commitment that might not pay off
It's true. No matter how qualified the person is, if he or she says they cannot work OT or weekends, they are usually dropped from recruitment consideration in my office. We may work office hours 90% of the time, but when we need manpower at odd hours the other 10% of the time, the team is expected to step up. We hired one guy who said he could work OT and weekends. He didn't survive the probation. He was a Harry: "I can't work tonight because my mummy wants me home for dinner." "My mummy says I have to be home this weekend."
Naw. I have two family members who never see their godchildren because they had a fallout with the moms.
I had a wealthy aunt who was married but childless. There were relatives who were clamouring for their kids to be her godchildren. I suspect they were eyeing inheritance, but the aunt didn't leave that much in the end as she suffered from a debilitating illness for years and it ate up a lot of her money.
 
It’s not the noise in that visit that bothered me (because it could have been anything off camera too)... It’s that the bump reinflates as she stands up. Start at 0.43 where someone has slowed it down and keep your eyes on her hands/edge of her coat. As she straightens, the bump comes out (normal), but when she is back up straight, the bump literally inflates outwards!


Yikes, I hadn't noticed that :wtf: Holy s**t!
 
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