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As requested, this thread is now the official Help I.D. Hermes leather, color and design thread. Cheers!



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shup said:
I was wondering if it wa bleu France and mislabeled but if you think it’s bleu royale… which I frankly like better
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I think @acrowcounted is right. A lot of sellers do mislabel things on 1st Dibs, but I think the seller is correct in this case. The listing says it comes with a copy of the receipt, so I’m sure the seller referred to the colour information provided on the receipt.
 
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annaria said:
Thank you, @QuelleFromage!



Hi @r luvs h

It is Square K, so 2007 Year of production?

Thanks again.
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I think the lighting in these photos is a bit misleading, but based on the photos and year provided, I’m pretty sure it would have to be GT, Parchemin, or Argile. Off the top of my head, I don’t recall GT ever having glazing in this colour, so it would have to be Argile or Parchemin.
 
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r luvs h said:
I think the lighting in these photos is a bit misleading, but based on the photos and year provided, I’m pretty sure it would have to be GT, Parchemin, or Argile. Off the top of my head, I don’t recall GT ever having glazing in this colour, so it would have to be Argile or Parchemin.
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Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I’m excited to get the package! :)
 
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@r luvs h speaking of 2007 GT, here are some close-ups of a GT B 35 from that year that I bought from a friend of mine a few years ago. at the time she said it was Clemence, but I keep thinking I can detect slight veins in it from certain angles suggesting Togo. Am I crazy to think (maybe even hope, since right now I’m scared to carry this bag if there’s the slightest chance of bad weather) it could be Togo after all? My H bag collection contains only one Clemence piece, a Picotin in Bleu electrique that is too saturated & bright to serve as a helpful point of comparison - & I’ve got no (other) Togo bags at all - so I’d be grateful to know what you TPFer authorities think…

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Virevolte said:
@r luvs h speaking of 2007 GT, here are some close-ups of a GT B 35 from that year that I bought from a friend of mine a few years ago. at the time she said it was Clemence, but I keep thinking I can detect slight veins in it from certain angles suggesting Togo. Am I crazy to think (maybe even hope, since right now I’m scared to carry this bag if there’s the slightest chance of bad weather) it could be Togo after all? My H bag collection contains only one Clemence piece, a Picotin in Bleu electrique that is too saturated & bright to serve as a helpful point of comparison - & I’ve got no (other) Togo bags at all - so I’d be grateful to know what you TPFer authorities think…

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Ooh the age-old question: clemence or togo? Togo leather generally looked quite different around this time, so my guess is that this is a clemence bag. I believe this is right, though I will gladly be corrected!

I think the easiest way to tell the difference is to feel, look at, and listen to the leather. Is it “dry” feeling, stiffer looking, and louder sounding (upon running your fingertips/nails lightly across the leather)? This would generally denote togo leather. Is it supple feeling, slouchy, and rather quiet sounding (“ “)? This would generally denote clemence leather.

As far as the veining, I’m guessing you’re referring to the horizontal striations mainly on the back? I wouldn’t necessarily call this “veining” in the traditional sense. Traditional veining on togo leather stretches in long, vertical segments across the bag. On the other hand, the veining on your bag is horizontal (not vertical) and seems localized to specific portions of the bag. This type of “veining” can occur on all types of leather (e.g. epsom, clemence, togo, etc.).

At any rate, I wouldn’t recommend getting caught in the rain with any H bag— while some may be water resistant, none are waterproof… yet:biggrin:
 
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Virevolte said:
@r luvs h speaking of 2007 GT, here are some close-ups of a GT B 35 from that year that I bought from a friend of mine a few years ago. at the time she said it was Clemence, but I keep thinking I can detect slight veins in it from certain angles suggesting Togo. Am I crazy to think (maybe even hope, since right now I’m scared to carry this bag if there’s the slightest chance of bad weather) it could be Togo after all? My H bag collection contains only one Clemence piece, a Picotin in Bleu electrique that is too saturated & bright to serve as a helpful point of comparison - & I’ve got no (other) Togo bags at all - so I’d be grateful to know what you TPFer authorities think…

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This looks like Clemence, and from this year in this color is likely to be Clemence. Clemence is fine in the rain. In terms of durability and water resistance, Clemence is a bit more sturdy than Togo, so not sure why you're wishing the bag to be Togo?
In any case, of course you should not soak your bags, but raindrops are not going to hurt this bag :flowers:
 
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r luvs h said:
Ooh the age-old question: clemence or togo? Togo leather generally looked quite different around this time, so my guess is that this is a clemence bag. I believe this is right, though I will gladly be corrected!

I think the easiest way to tell the difference is to feel, look at, and listen to the leather. Is it “dry” feeling, stiffer looking, and louder sounding (upon running your fingertips/nails lightly across the leather)? This would generally denote togo leather. Is it supple feeling, slouchy, and rather quiet sounding (“ “)? This would generally denote clemence leather.

As far as the veining, I’m guessing you’re referring to the horizontal striations mainly on the back? I wouldn’t necessarily call this “veining” in the traditional sense. Traditional veining on togo leather stretches in long, vertical segments across the bag. On the other hand, the veining on your bag is horizontal (not vertical) and seems localized to specific portions of the bag. This type of “veining” can occur on all types of leather (e.g. epsom, clemence, togo, etc.).

At any rate, I wouldn’t recommend getting caught in the rain with any H bag— while some may be water resistant, none are waterproof… yet:biggrin:
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Thank you for your wisdom, @r luvs h - I really appreciate your taking the time to weigh in, and I’m sure you are right. And yes, of course I’ll avoid getting caught in the rain with this as with all my H bags - as TPFers have commented on other threads, the H rain cover is not exactly rain-proof either. :P
 
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QuelleFromage said:
This looks like Clemence, and from this year in this color is likely to be Clemence. Clemence is fine in the rain. In terms of durability and water resistance, Clemence is a bit more sturdy than Togo, so not sure why you're wishing the bag to be Togo?
In any case, of course you should not soak your bags, but raindrops are not going to hurt this bag :flowers:
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Whew! Et merci, Quel Fromage!
 
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whole-lotta-prada said:
Hi this 35 Birkin bag is from Korean reseller and I asked seller and they say it is a special order bag but has no Horse shoes stamp? Is this O.K.? What is the color? Thankyou.

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It seems that you’ve not included a picture of the bag’s heat stamp— this is the part of the bag that generally says “Hermès Paris Made In France”. It’s also the part of the bag that would show (or not show) the horseshoe stamp in question. That would be a rather helpful photo to have.

To answer one part of your question, yes, it is possible for bags to be SO (special order) bags but without a horseshoe stamp. This was the case for SOs produced in 2008 or earlier. Anyway, I don’t think that’s what we’re dealing with here. Based on a few facets of the bag, I’m quite confident in saying that this bag was made much more recently and is probably not an SO bag as the seller claims. In my opinion, this is just a regular verso birkin (non-special order). I was offered one in these exact specifications a few years ago and the colours were poppy and bleu nuit, so I’m guessing that would be the same in this case. If you do have a picture of the heat stamp, that may help too. Hope this helps!
 
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