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Beloved was a flop? people love that movie but maybe it was just for a specific audience

im confused as to why Oprah's weight gain makes anyone "Sad." weird. her weight is not a hindrance to her success and i am sure made her very much relateable to her audience
 
Beloved was a flop? people love that movie but maybe it was just for a specific audience

im confused as to why Oprah's weight gain makes anyone "Sad." weird. her weight is not a hindrance to her success and i am sure made her very much relateable to her audience

Because she has a food addiction?
 
has she said that? or is that assumed bc she's not skinny? is everyone who is not thin addicted to food?

No she said it many, many times.
After the release of Beloved which was a commercial flop, she even experienced depression.
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IT HAD the studio, the director and the star. It had a long-awaited story and the best possible advance word-of-mouth. “Beloved”, based on Toni Morrison's Pulitzer-winning novel, was meant to be the “Schindler's List” of slavery and its aftermath, the first serious black film to cross racial lines at the box office in America this decade. Released on October 16th, when America's audiences turn to Oscar-worthy films, “Beloved” seemed destined for success. Yet now that the film has flopped, everyone seems to know why it was doomed to fail all along.

The film's opening followed an all-out media blitz from Disney. Commercials blanketed screens across the country. Jonathan Demme, a stylish cult film maker of the 1970s turned Oscar-winning director of “Silence of the Lambs” and “Philadelphia”, worked the interview circuit.

Most promisingly of all, the film had intense hype from its producer and star, Oprah Winfrey, America's top TV talk-show host, who had spent ten years trying to bring “Beloved” to the big screen. She has proved near-infallible with crossovers into other fields, providing the biggest boon to America's flagging publishers with her on-air book club and selling millions of cookbooks and fitness guides associated with her name. For this occasion, Disney's book division published a coffee-table hardcover by Ms Winfrey, “Journey to Beloved”. She herself lost 20lb and graced the covers of American Vogue.

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Despite an intense campaign, “Beloved” landed at number five on its opening weekend, bringing in only $8m and trailing the universally panned “Bride of Chucky” and “Practical Magic”. Reviews were positive but not overwhelming. The film tells the story of Sethe, a former slave who in the aftermath of America's civil war is visited by the ghost of her daughter, whom she had murdered in infancy to save her from slavery. Ms Winfrey's performance as Sethe garnered tepid praise, but Thandie Newton from Britain, playing the title character, received widely differing reactions including unflattering comparisons with Linda Blair in “The Exorcist”. The film was given credit for its ravishing camerawork, lush score and for several powerful scenes, but not one critic gave it the crucial “must-see” that films of its ilk need. Many deemed it a noble effort, but weighty and ponderous nonetheless.

The news got worse. In its second week “Beloved” had a 50% decline in ticket sales. Fourth-quarter net income at Disney fell, pushed down by a write-off for the roughly $80m “Beloved” and another failed black-star vehicle, “Holy Man” with Eddie Murphy. Not only were whites not seeing the film, black audiences were largely restricted to women over 35. In its second week, black attendance levels dropped even lower, and the film failed to draw crowds in the critical suburban malls. Worse yet, long-term revenue for the film is mostly limited to domestic potential as films with African-American themes generally fall flat in crucial overseas markets.

The main problem is the film itself: most audiences are not eager to endure nearly three hours of a cerebral film with an original storyline featuring supernatural themes, murder, rape and slavery. Yet quite apart from popular drawbacks of it own, the failure of “Beloved” is taken as a bad sign by those hoping to create serious popular films about the black experience. At the second annual meeting of the Black Filmmakers Foundation last month the mood was glum. Black film makers feared that studios would stop paying for their films. Black comedies seem to succeed. But recent serious films with a black theme such as Spike Lee's “Clockers” and even Steven Spielberg's “Amistad” have not succeeded at the box office.

Disney, the director and the producer are all still hoping that “Beloved” will attract more viewers as critics' awards roll in and a revamped advertising campaign is launched in December. But the Oscars are still months away. And with the holiday film season on the horizon promising many dozens of new releases, the chances for eventual success seem slim.
 
has she said that? or is that assumed bc she's not skinny? is everyone who is not thin addicted to food?

I know right. She lost the weight a while ago and she's older now, maybe its harder for her to get back there.... Maybe she just DGAF.

I agree her weight made her a lot more personable and relatable. Like an every woman woman except with billions of dollars.
 
I hated the movie Beloved and the Color Purple. Still I think Oprah is a really talented actress and I'm really looking forward to seeing the Butler.

IMO, beloved is a great book, but one that never should have never been turned into a movie. I could watch the color purple once a month.

I quite enjoyed The Butler, actually sat all the way through the credits.
 
Bag drama aside, I have to say that I die a little inside every time I see that picture of Andre with the Homey the Clown/George Jefferson hair...don't.

:roflmfao: Stop - just stop! :roflmfao:


Beloved was a flop? people love that movie but maybe it was just for a specific audience

im confused as to why Oprah's weight gain makes anyone "Sad." weird. her weight is not a hindrance to her success and i am sure made her very much relateable to her audience

I don't get it either. She may have conquered her eating addition/issues but given that everyone's body structure/composition is different there really may not be an issue at all. We know she works out and has a chef :graucho:. so I'm sure if there were any issues, her doctor would let her know.

Oh and FWIW - I didn't Beloved (the movie) either - the book I loved though.
 
Just my opinion but anyone who is worth 3 billion dollars should be able to take care of themselves, particularly a savvy business person. You do not need a cannon to shoot a mosquito. I would but my bet on O.
 
My husband is Swiss, was born there, and his family still lives in Zurich. They don't get the fuss over the Oprah incident at all! As my husband so proudly proclaimed, "The Swiss are snotty to everyone!"

:p
 
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My husband is Swiss, was born there, and his family still live in Zurich. They don't get the fuss over the Oprah incident at all! As my husband so proudly proclaimed, "The Swiss are snotty to everyone!"

:p

Haha... my mom lived in Switzerland for a number of years and said exactly the same thing.
 
Here's my problem with the whole thing. This incident very well could have been because she was black. I don't know. I wasn't there. But the other incident, the Hermes thing? That was because she was black, too? I don't see how expecting someone to open a store for you AFTER hours and them not doing it is racism? When I go shopping, I don't expect anyone to hold a store open after it closed for me.

I have had SA in Europe be snotty to me, too.
 
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