OMG this is an expensive lesson to learn...
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From your post it sounds like it was stopped at customs due to the declared value at first, and not because it was exotic. How did they come to find out it was exotic? Did you tell them when you arrived at customs? I ask because you noted that they had not opened the box at that point.
I hope you get everything sorted out.
This is clearly an important thread regarding the significance of an original cites certificate. Even at the boutiques, it is a hit or miss with cites. Some come with, others without. IMO, they should all have the darn cites.
I hope you get everything sorted out.
This is clearly an important thread regarding the significance of an original cites certificate. Even at the boutiques, it is a hit or miss with cites. Some come with, others without. IMO, they should all have the darn cites.
SympathyDuet said:
Thank you for asking!
This is so long ago that I start to forget details of the beginning
They opened the parcel because I had not been sure about the leather. I just went there in may in order to pick up my bracelet, I had not Read the letter I recieved from customs As I knew they always wanted to see the original paypal reciet. And when they asked me about the leather I only knew the colour because this was the only thing interesting for me As it should be perfect with a scarf I bought....
Once again: blonde
Whenever you buy something exotic, make sure the seller added a CITES permit!
What I am wondering about is that if I would have asked for a CITES permit and they would Not have Sent one, I would have been in the same situation As I am now. I would Be the One to Pay the Fine.... This is really horrible....
A short reminder for everyone :
The "Cites" is a permit of exportation, re-exportation or importation, issued by a country's "wildlife buro" (different country/different name).
It is part of a tracking system that was designed by CITES ( Convention for International Trade of Endangered Species )
When does an H item needs a Cites ?
When it changes Owner AND Country.
This means : Each time an item changes Owner AND County , it will officially need a new CITES permit.
This permit will mention name and address of seller and name and address of buyer. It is issued by "wildlife Buro" of country of departure . It allows the item to change owner and country, it will be stamped by customs at exit of country of departure, and again at entry of country of destination. Each country's "wildlife buro" keeps a copy of this permit, and so the item is trackable.
If you get a croc Item from Hermes in your country of residence: NO CITES.
Same thing with a croc item from any re-seller.
In H stores, some items come with a paper copy of the Cites issued for the skins. It might be used as a proof of what type of skin the item is made of, but it is in NO WAY a valid paperwork for customs, in case of shipping.You can keep this for your "peace of mind", that's all.
The only valid CITES for shipping or importing an exotic item to your country of residence if bought outside, is a Cites permit with YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ON IT.
If you don't have this , either released by H in your name, or by your reseller , in your name, don't ever mention the item. Put it on arm, swallow the receipt and go, just as if you had owned it forever.
The "Cites" is a permit of exportation, re-exportation or importation, issued by a country's "wildlife buro" (different country/different name).
It is part of a tracking system that was designed by CITES ( Convention for International Trade of Endangered Species )
When does an H item needs a Cites ?
When it changes Owner AND Country.
This means : Each time an item changes Owner AND County , it will officially need a new CITES permit.
This permit will mention name and address of seller and name and address of buyer. It is issued by "wildlife Buro" of country of departure . It allows the item to change owner and country, it will be stamped by customs at exit of country of departure, and again at entry of country of destination. Each country's "wildlife buro" keeps a copy of this permit, and so the item is trackable.
If you get a croc Item from Hermes in your country of residence: NO CITES.
Same thing with a croc item from any re-seller.
In H stores, some items come with a paper copy of the Cites issued for the skins. It might be used as a proof of what type of skin the item is made of, but it is in NO WAY a valid paperwork for customs, in case of shipping.You can keep this for your "peace of mind", that's all.
The only valid CITES for shipping or importing an exotic item to your country of residence if bought outside, is a Cites permit with YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ON IT.
If you don't have this , either released by H in your name, or by your reseller , in your name, don't ever mention the item. Put it on arm, swallow the receipt and go, just as if you had owned it forever.
I can only speak from my experience in my own country.
If I had to ask for a Cites permit for say a lizard used bracelet, I would have to fill a form with my buyer's name and address, pay a bout $40 and wait 2 to 4 weeks to receive it.Then only I could ship my item.
If I were a manufacturer of exotic items in my country I would get pre-filled Cites permits that I would only have to fill with my buyer's name at the time of shipping abroad. A bit quicker
although I feel healed from exotics at the moment I know whom I attend next time before I by something to get to know which permits I need to make it legalI can only speak from my experience in my own country.
If I had to ask for a Cites permit for say a lizard used bracelet, I would have to fill a form with my buyer's name and address, pay a bout $40 and wait 2 to 4 weeks to receive it.Then only I could ship my item.
If I were a manufacturer of exotic items in my country I would get pre-filled Cites permits that I would only have to fill with my buyer's name at the time of shipping abroad. A bit quicker
Sorry to hear about this snafu - it is horrible that you lost out on the bracelet! But you have a lovely sense of humor and I'll bet that you are a riot in person! You and Perlerare have kept me alternately laughing and in suspense while reading this thread. If I am ever so lucky as to own an exotic, I know about CITES now!
Honesty, my heart is ACHING at the thought of this gorgeous KD stting somewhere in a dark room all alone :cry:
These are impossible to find!! My biggest regret is not buying a Lizzie mykonos KD with PHW ! I did get the gorgeous one in my avatar.
Sorry this happened, op
These are impossible to find!! My biggest regret is not buying a Lizzie mykonos KD with PHW ! I did get the gorgeous one in my avatar.
Sorry this happened, op
I wonder if you could try saying that the leather is embossed and not actual exotic? Then just say it's expensive because it's Hermès?
Your inputs really intrigued me. LEt just say if I m wearing an exotic leather CDC, and travel to other countries for holiday, i need to have a CITES with me too?
TIA
TIAI can only speak from my experience in my own country.
If I had to ask for a Cites permit for say a lizard used bracelet, I would have to fill a form with my buyer's name and address, pay a bout $40 and wait 2 to 4 weeks to receive it.Then only I could ship my item.
If I were a manufacturer of exotic items in my country I would get pre-filled Cites permits that I would only have to fill with my buyer's name at the time of shipping abroad. A bit quicker
Recently i just bought a croc cdc from hermes boutique and it didnt come with cites.... i did ask but the sa said they dun give cites anymore.... and she believes no problem to bring it in or out other countries....
May be i should bring the hermes invoices along when travelling? Would that help?
May be i should bring the hermes invoices along when travelling? Would that help?
Your inputs really intrigued me. LEt just say if I m wearing an exotic leather CDC, and travel to other countries for holiday, i need to have a CITES with me too?
Of course not
CITES applies if the item change country AND owner.