Scarves Ode to Parures de Samouraïs

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Add me to list of unhappy PdS CSGM owners. Found this loop in cw 3 from H.com. It looks like it is part of the original weave and not a pull as there are no threads or print out of alignment like in a real pull although the photo makes it look like the black line is broken. If it was a real pull I would’ve been okay to tease it back into place since it is so small. Back to the store you go. [emoji17][emoji17][emoji17][emoji17]View attachment 3996356

Sorry for the disappointment. Fingers crossed for the next
 
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@Cygne18 @Pautinka @cavalla @Joannadyne @Croisette7 @Mme. de la Paix @lanit @katriona @calexandre @orchard @hopiko @Ladybaga @ms piggy @smallfry @litchi @papertiger Thank you all for your comforting words. :flowers: :smile: I made an attempt to exchange for another in store today. (I had called yesterday late afternoon to check which store has availability if any.) This store had 2 in stock and after the SA returned from the stock room to show me the shawl, I mentioned that I would be doing an exchange because of the flaw - red dot sticker and stain. I was told flat out that an exchange isn't possible and that I have to send the shawl back to the online site and they would give me a refund in a snooty manner.

Well, I could've bought that pristine shawl that I'd just inspected but I'm not buying with crap service. I rather wait (im)patiently for my store to get it instead. (I had also witnessed another SA being snooty to two customers who asked to see the Evelyn in display case and was told "no stock today" with a sullen look on her face while I waited for the SA to return from the stockroom. :blah:)

I also called H.com customer service to inform them of my faulty shawls and was told that they would be contacting me on Monday to resolve the issue. Well, in the meantime I'm sending both shawls back :annoyed: I will also be writing a complaint but am wondering who do I direct to as I want someone at corporate H to know that "Hey customers notice that we're slacking!" :rant:

@Croisette7 Thank you for sharing that you had encountered a similar experience with a red sticker on the silk. I think this is a supply chain issue and not an issue with the online store. Someone is slacking on their job and I too, like @ms piggy think that H are having production issues. @smallfry If you compare this season to the previous one, there's less CSGM designs as is. Something doesn't add up...

@Sickgrl13 I'm sorry you're finding flaws in your 03 shawl as well. :sad: :tdown: I hope you're able to find another that's flawless. :hugs:

weN84, this is just unbelievable. I've got to believe that nearly every SA in every boutique knows of this shawl, of it's desirability, it's scarcity, and now the associated production problems. For them to react this way is just mind-boggling, especially after the stinky-bag fiasco of a few years ago. I would have thought they'd learned the public relations lesson from that experience. Apparently not.
 
I have absolutely no clue with CSGM and wanted PDS 5 to be my first one. I tried it, found the fabric so thin and was disappointed. I was unable to buy thinking about the "almost" 3 silk scarves I could buy with the money. And now, if there are flaws in a new one from the store, I really feel hesitant.
Should I give a try ?

The CSGMs are meant to be fine, I personally think that's part of the attraction (like a pashmina, I guess). They are cosy, nevertheless, and provide an amazing amount of insulation for their weight. Another sign of quality, to my mind anyway. What I would say in their defence is that the fibres do puff up slightly with use; they are not intended to ever be a big thick woolly scarf though!! It doesn't sound to me like you are convinced about purchasing one and at what they cost you need to really have your heart set on having one. I believe the older ones used to be thicker so maybe you could shop around for a vintage design? The flaw problem is unforgivable though and I would be majorly peeved if I was sold a dud. On that note I am away to check my cabane PdS!! [emoji848][emoji4]

I might have posted this on some other thread so some of you might have already read this. According to my SA, the new CSGMs are thinner because of the new printing method. But it should get fluffier and softer after wear, i.e., after it absorbs the body moisture and temperature. But you should only buy it when you like it and want it.
 
According to my SA, the new CSGMs are thinner because of the new printing method ... it.
Anyone have CSGMs of various dates and a scale ? Thinner would be weighs less ...
Hmm thinner due to new printing ... I don’t buy the cause and effect in that sentence ... Thinner and new printing makes more sense
They used to do 8 passes of a color on cs, and 2018ss csgms have less saturated colors ... hmmm ... fewer passes = new printing ?
 
Anyone have CSGMs of various dates and a scale ? Thinner would be weighs less ...
Hmm thinner due to new printing ... I don’t buy the cause and effect in that sentence ... Thinner and new printing makes more sense
They used to do 8 passes of a color on cs, and 2018ss csgms have less saturated colors ... hmmm ... fewer passes = new printing ?

I don't think it started this season. If I remember it correctly he has been saying this at least since 2017SS. If I learn more about what this new printing is about, I'll report back.
 
Anyone have CSGMs of various dates and a scale ? Thinner would be weighs less ...
Hmm thinner due to new printing ... I don’t buy the cause and effect in that sentence ... Thinner and new printing makes more sense
They used to do 8 passes of a color on cs, and 2018ss csgms have less saturated colors ... hmmm ... fewer passes = new printing ?

Ask and ye shall receive...

Weighed on my kitchen scale:

Temari (2011) - 180 grams
Couvertures (2012) - 187g.
Patchwork Horse (2014) - 182g.
Carre en Boucles (2016) - 177g.
Maharani (2017) - 185g.
PdS (2018) - 181g.

All new/unworn (did I mention I sometimes have a very long time between when I buy shawl and wear it? :lol: )
 
@Cygne18 @Pautinka @cavalla @Joannadyne @Croisette7 @Mme. de la Paix @lanit @katriona @calexandre @orchard @hopiko @Ladybaga @ms piggy @smallfry @litchi @papertiger Thank you all for your comforting words. :flowers: :smile: I made an attempt to exchange for another in store today. (I had called yesterday late afternoon to check which store has availability if any.) This store had 2 in stock and after the SA returned from the stock room to show me the shawl, I mentioned that I would be doing an exchange because of the flaw - red dot sticker and stain. I was told flat out that an exchange isn't possible and that I have to send the shawl back to the online site and they would give me a refund in a snooty manner.

Well, I could've bought that pristine shawl that I'd just inspected but I'm not buying with crap service. I rather wait (im)patiently for my store to get it instead. (I had also witnessed another SA being snooty to two customers who asked to see the Evelyn in display case and was told "no stock today" with a sullen look on her face while I waited for the SA to return from the stockroom. :blah:)

I also called H.com customer service to inform them of my faulty shawls and was told that they would be contacting me on Monday to resolve the issue. Well, in the meantime I'm sending both shawls back :annoyed: I will also be writing a complaint but am wondering who do I direct to as I want someone at corporate H to know that "Hey customers notice that we're slacking!" :rant:

@Croisette7 Thank you for sharing that you had encountered a similar experience with a red sticker on the silk. I think this is a supply chain issue and not an issue with the online store. Someone is slacking on their job and I too, like @ms piggy think that H are having production issues. @smallfry If you compare this season to the previous one, there's less CSGM designs as is. Something doesn't add up...

@Sickgrl13 I'm sorry you're finding flaws in your 03 shawl as well. :sad: :tdown: I hope you're able to find another that's flawless. :hugs:
No WAY.
I would never feel comfortable shopping at that Hermes....
 
No WAY.
I would never feel comfortable shopping at that Hermes....
Neither would I... plus the fact that they won’t do an exchange with you, is completely in conflict with a Hermes ‘ stated policy on their online store. When I ordered my #10 , I looked very carefully at the return policy, any local store should be obligated to exchange a scarf you have shipped, for store credit of equal value. They really should be reported to head office.
 
Neither would I... plus the fact that they won’t do an exchange with you, is completely in conflict with a Hermes ‘ stated policy on their online store. When I ordered my #10 , I looked very carefully at the return policy, any local store should be obligated to exchange a scarf you have shipped, for store credit of equal value. They really should be reported to head office.
Don't these SA's understand that by intimidating customers they lose sales?
I honestly don't understand this behavior...and over a CSGM or a scarf no less.
Contrast this with my local boutique. Incredibly sweet, kind and patient SA's and a store manager who gives warm hugs.
 
Don't these SA's understand that by intimidating customers they lose sales?
I honestly don't understand this behavior...and over a CSGM or a scarf no less.
Contrast this with my local boutique. Incredibly sweet, kind and patient SA's and a store manager who gives warm hugs.
They may intimidate some people , but they simply make me hostile... any SA stupid enough to think that rudeness and condescension is the way to a customer’s heart or wallet should be fired.
 
Okay...the Eagle has landed.... View attachment 3993186 []] View attachment 3993187 View attachment 3993190 [

This is the hardest colorway to photograph that I have ever experienced... as the afternoon light waned all the purple came out like gangbusters...in daylight you get a balance of rich mauves, a sort of blueberry-slate blue, the green, and some blush pink all in a lovely melange...I'll take a few more photos tomorrow in full daylight...but I really love this scarf! I advise anyone curious to try it on, I can honestly say that this was the last scarf I would have considered before I tried it on, it is not my usual thing at all. But it is a mysteriously beautiful colour combination.

Would love to know the cw #. Can you or anyone else help? From reading further I think it is cw10 CSGM.
 
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