That's great to know, thank you

I may well order docride's kit, especially as you're getting good results! The only draw back is the postage time, costs and custom charges, but failing finding something in the uk I will go with that.
I've posted the question on her thread anyway, but I believe she is away for a few days.
I'm really tempted to try the Saphir renovator as I was naughty and tried a tiny amount on the back of the strap. Results were good, but I'd like to check it won't have a detrimental effect on the leather in the long term before I go ahead and do larger panels. It didn't darken the colour either which I believe the saddle balm will do. Ideally I'd just like to lightly moisturise rather than darken.