Not Sure How I Feel About New Business Model...

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To continue I also agree that they are being a bit extreme. There is going to be a huge backlash if they take away the pce discount that they spoiled us with. Most of us already subtract the 25% or 50% whenever we see the retail price anyway. Coach can't just say: "Nope this is really worth $600" and expect us to accept it without question. Why? How is it different from your other FP bags?
 
I am wondering where this will leave the deptment stores as well. I do have a FP store in my mall but I do not believe it would support a boutique with only bags in that price point. Coach is probably the most "high-end" store there. And I am 3 1/2 hrs away from a factory store.

Some of us can't afford a $800-$1200 (or more) bag. Wish I could, but alas, I am not wealthy and my Coach bags are a luxury to me. Seems like some of us would be out in the cold looking for a new designer. Haven't bought a Dooney in a while....
 
I am wondering where this will leave the deptment stores as well. I do have a FP store in my mall but I do not believe it would support a boutique with only bags in that price point. Coach is probably the most "high-end" store there. And I am 3 1/2 hrs away from a factory store.

Some of us can't afford a $800-$1200 (or more) bag. Wish I could, but alas, I am not wealthy and my Coach bags are a luxury to me. Seems like some of us would be out in the cold looking for a new designer. Haven't bought a Dooney in a while....

I just bought a Dooney Florentine satchel and I love it. The site also has a 3 payment plan for items over $350 and free shipping
 
Hmm. I am not doubting that this info was passed onto OP. I'm just shaking my head at that info as some of it doesn't make that much sense to me. COH is getting a tad beat up by Wall Street lately. Check out the story emerging from Wells Fargo's downgrade yesterday, in fact:

"Wells Fargo reported on Tuesday that it has lowered its rating on gift and accessory producer, Coach, Inc. (COH). The firm has downgraded COH from “Outperform” to “Market Perform,” and has given the company a valuation range of $53 to $57. This range suggests a up to -8% decline from the stock’s current price of [...]

Wells Fargo reported on Tuesday that it has lowered its rating on gift and accessory producer, Coach, Inc. (COH).
The firm has downgraded COH from “Outperform” to “Market Perform,” and has given the company a valuation range of $53 to $57. This range suggests a up to -8% decline from the stock’s current price of $57.69. An analyst from the firm commented, “while we believe COH remains a well-regarded brand and currently enjoys among the highest ROIC in retail, we are concerned that its new strategic direction (to become a lifestyle brand) at this stage in its life cycle may weigh on margins and returns. Slowing comp trends in both U.S. channels seem likely to continue, especially at Factory stores, where high productivity levels create difficult comparisons.”

The part leaving me shaking my head is how they have among the highest ROIC in retail--and then would make such major, major changes to their strategic plans -- esp during a time when the economy is not yet stablized or healthy yet. Think about how Wall Street in general celebrated the news that the FOMC will hold rates steady and not start selling assets...yet, in order to keep the "wealth effect" alive and well with investors. IMO , a major shift like this in a company's strategic plan, during an economic recovery as we are in now, is somewhat equivalent to the Feds selling assets too soon or too quickly. With all that liquidity out there, the Feds don't want to upset the apple cart. Unless Coach thinks they have captured everyone there is to capture, and all the available liquidity (spenders) I just don't get the timing of this, let alone this plan.

Oh well....stranger things have happened. And at times, as a COH stockholder, I equate Coach to a technology that was to thrive but didn't really in a certain sector where they thought it would be hot (Smartboards in public schools). At first, districts snatched up Smartboards but then they sat there with sheets covering them...essentially becoming a technology seeking a purpose. Perhaps Coach is just similar to that now...a retailer (still) seeking a purpose. But maybe gradually, unlike Smartboards. First, the barrage of PCEs--very aggressive marketing. Then, the shift to Legacy and the look of Coach of yesteryear. Then the uniform changes at the boutiques and now outlets. And now...the rest of this plan? All looking like a retailer still seeking a purpose, in my humble opinion.
 
Oh, and forgot to add to the list of changes, that I started above, the "exclusion" of Phoebe bags on PCE invites. Hmmmm. Perhaps more testing of the greater restraint that they want to muscle out there with consumers.
 
^^^That's awesome. I was simply referencing how the PCE invite had the ***fine print Pheobe exclusion.

Meanwhile, I'll just condense my long winded epiphany above by saying that, unless Coach thinks they have captured everyone there is to capture, and all the available liquidity (spenders) with their current model.... I just don't get the timing of this relative to other performance aspects that Wall St analysts have come out with, at least recently....
 
^^^That's awesome. I was simply referencing how the PCE invite had the ***fine print Pheobe exclusion.

Meanwhile, I'll just condense my long winded epiphany above by saying that, unless Coach thinks they have captured everyone there is to capture, and all the available liquidity (spenders) with their current model.... I just don't get the timing of this relative to other performance aspects that Wall St analysts have come out with, at least recently....

Let's hope that this prediction is just a rumor...

That website Bag, Borrow or Steal? They stopped selling previously owned Coach (and other 'lower end' brands) and now exclusively deal in the luxury designers. Bummed me OUT. I scored about four nice bags there last summer. Two Coach, a Kooba, and a Cole Haan. Anyway, there's an example of a merchant who jettisoned the 'lower end' brands in favor of the luxury market and their research must have indicated this was the right move for them. They are still around... but I can't afford them anymore.

So I hope this won't be Coach's way. For I won't be shopping for $400 + bags in an outlet store.
 
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