Not Sure How I Feel About New Business Model...

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#436
I was told none of the bags now are part of the new model. That will start with the Borough Bag. It's the official launch of the capsule collection. The clothing is part of the capsule collection. Only 6 stores will roll out the full capsule collection. My store here will never get clothing. It won't sale in this market.
 
#438
katierose said:
My favorite FP store (at South Coast Plaza) is being remodeled right now. The SA told me they will reopen with a full men's line, and also will carry the line of Coach clothing. They already carried the shoes, and the top if the line bags, so I'm thinking they will be more in line with the other many designer boutique shops in the mall like Burberry and even Michael Kors.

I'm not sure about them dropping the lower priced bags from all the FP stores though. There have been so many bags coming out lately like the Phoebe, Madeline, and Sadie, that are in that lower price range, that it would seem to be contrary to that end. I'm expecting a lot of those bags to hit the outlets and FOS.

As far as deletes not being carried at the outlets go, I've been hearing this since I first joined tpf and it still remains the method in which Coach sells their overstock and returns. Though the FOS may be successful in that, but not on the "invitation only" method they now employ.

RE: stock at the outlets. The stock at the outlets does vary by month, and when they transfer the end of season deletes (like the just passed summer deletes) the outlets are going to have more on hand than they do other months.
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I think you are right deletes will still come to the outlets. SA at the outlet told me I would see much better bags coming in from the FPS in the future based on the new model. I took this to mean deletes would still arrive...never mentioned how many or price/% off.
 
#440
bluebellrose said:
I am not paying $500+ for a bag that's made in china. Root's bags cheapest one so far $88 and made in canada. Really coach, if you want my money you have to work harder than changing the price tag.

Coach also needs to realize that middle class folks make up more of the population than the wealthy. Folks who can put aside $100 to $200 for a bag cannot put aside $1000 for a bag. They can make a mortgage payment with that amount or pay lots of bills. A $100 or $200 bag is like to some folks a special treat. Like a present to one's self. It's expensive to them if they're working min wage and paying the bills around the house. I know it is to me. But I love the colours and style and it's something I'll try to put some money aside for. If it's goes past the $500 range, I won't even look at it as it's beyond my budget. So they'll have lost me as a customer, and there is no coach outlet where I live, I only have the fp stores.
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Just want to say Roots bags look amazing. I am thinking of switching brands for awhile. I totally agree with the rest of your post too.
 
#441
Coconut lover said:
Don't forget the resellers also use Macy's, Dillards and the other retail stores, who have very good deals...usually once a month.
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Freak4Coach said:
I was also told is Coach is going to drastically cut inventory all around so there will be very little or no deletes at all. The plan is for things to sell out by the decrease in quantity and less turnover in styles.
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^ exactly. Yes, resellers buy from department stores, but if there's less inventory all around in the primary retail channels, there will be less for resellers to buy from any retail source.

katierose said:
As far as deletes not being carried at the outlets go, I've been hearing this since I first joined tpf and it still remains the method in which Coach sells their overstock and returns.
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Good point. We've heard "the end is near" for deletes repeatedly over the years, but only time will tell for sure.

katierose said:
RE: stock at the outlets. The stock at the outlets does vary by month, and when they transfer the end of season deletes (like the just passed summer deletes) the outlets are going to have more on hand than they do other months.
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Good point. Coach seems to be withholding certain items from widespread outlet release, though (such as Phoebes. I doubt that every spring Phoebe color sold completely out in all Coach stores and JAX). They did this with Legacy. They may be purposefully throttling the flow. But you're correct, we've generally seen more deletes during the big seasonal changeovers.

MIKOMEGMOM said:
Straight from the CEO
http://fashionsnoops360.com/coach-begins-lifestyle-transformation/
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Thank you for posting this insightful article!
 
#442
I have noticed higher quality MFF but I don't seeing a lot of folks on this forum buying them until they are on clearance. Not this forum is indicative of everyone else and maybe Park is selling like gangbusters...
 
#445
Coconut lover said:
I think you are right deletes will still come to the outlets. SA at the outlet told me I would see much better bags coming in from the FPS in the future based on the new model. I took this to mean deletes would still arrive...never mentioned how many or price/% off.
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Even if deletes continue coming to the outlets, I believe the employees have first dibs on anything that comes in. Does anyone know if that's true? If so, diminishes the supply for us normal folk even more.
 
#446
hav2havthat said:
Even if deletes continue coming to the outlets, I believe the employees have first dibs on anything that comes in. Does anyone know if that's true? If so, diminishes the supply for us normal folk even more.
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That is true. Many times my outlet has told me that they received only 1 of what I was looking for and an employee bought it.
 
#447
Interesting that they've pulled a great many deletes FROM the outlets for the 1st semi annual presale. I bet we're going to see some great clearance deals in the next couple of months of leftover stock that Coach has.

I'm really interested in seeing what will happen with deleted stuff once this old inventory has been sold off.
 
#448
Coach is going to cut back on FOS too. From today's Wall Street Journal:

"As part of its plan to reduce promotions, Coach said it is retooling its online outlet store "flash" sales, where products are offered at discounts in sessions that can last just hours. Starting in the first quarter of the new year, Coach said it plans to scale back its flash sale events to under three a month, versus a current average of about three a week. It also plans to lower the number of emails sent out tied to the promotions to about 200 million next year from just over 1 billion in the current year."
 
#449
ltbag said:
Coach is going to cut back on FOS too. From today's Wall Street Journal:

"As part of its plan to reduce promotions, Coach said it is retooling its online outlet store "flash" sales, where products are offered at discounts in sessions that can last just hours. Starting in the first quarter of the new year, Coach said it plans to scale back its flash sale events to under three a month, versus a current average of about three a week. It also plans to lower the number of emails sent out tied to the promotions to about 200 million next year from just over 1 billion in the current year."
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This will help balance out the new outlet opening July 31 just outside the city.
 
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