My professor told me Chanel bags are all made in China but assembled in Europe?

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I did personally write an email to ask Chanel today. I got the same response as barbie444 got from Chanel, and the additional separate response from Chanel. I highlight and bold the message as following,

[FONT=Tahoma, Verdana]Thank you for taking the time to contact Chanel.

Chanel has always abided by the principle of sourcing raw materials, technology and craftsmanship from wherever they are reputed to be the best in the world (yarn or leather from Italy and France, cashmere from Scotland and watch-making skills in Switzerland), the prêt-a-porter and leather goods being made exclusively in Europe.

Chanel has thus selected Asian suppliers for the manufacture of small accessories or objects that require a skill, a technology or a special manual skill that cannot be found or can no longer be found in Europe. This is why Chanel professional brushes are manufactured in China, birthplace of calligraphy and possessor of a centuries-old reputation for knowledge of hair quality (the best in the world) and hand-assembly.

Whatever the geographical location of our partners, Chanel applies exactly the same selection criteria for quality, excellence and the respect of social rights. What is true for Europe is true for China or Japan. Should you require additional information, please call
(800) 550-0005 to speak with a Chanel Customer Service Representative.

Thank you for your continued interest in Chanel.

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Warm Regards,

I have been following this thread for a while and based on the response chanel gave to lovelvburberry don't see where they ever say they are producing handbags in China. They said the leather comes from France or Italy and the leather goods are made exclusively in Europe. Based on this in regards to bags and slg's I can see them maybe getting their hardware such as the chains or closures from China since they don't address those directly. There are so many responses of I can't believe Chanel bags are being made in china or that they are having the majority of parts or assembly coming from there that I am still trying to understand where that conclusion came from?

I have to start with the lines I have put in bold red. I actually did a search for these marvelous makeup brushes, and once again, this is an extremely blurred version of the truth. What are considered the "best" are different for different brushes, but in no case was China brought into the mix. This is the sales pitch, but the facts don't back it up. Also, they kinda fail to mention that these makeup brushes are NOT cruelty free. They make a big deal with the nail polishes of being "3-free" but don't let you know the unpleasantness behind those fur brushes. I'll let you all research this yourselves (but oh how I wish I could un-see what I saw about the furry little squirrels, to say nothing of the minks and other furry critters--synthetic is best from many tests...just sayin'.).

As to the line where they state, Chanel has thus selected Asian suppliers for the manufacture of small accessories or objects that require a skill, a technology or a special manual skill that cannot be found or can no longer be found in Europe., I'm going to suppose, because they didn't state otherwise, that this also includes or could include small items such as are used in small leather goods, small bags, clothing (what is "small" to Chanel I have no idea), costume jewelry, and who knows what all. Gloves to hats, scarves to shoes. If the artisans are no longer available, then all bets are off. If the technology has been outsourced, then there go the items made by this technology. We just saw a bunch of photos of bags made with...yep, technology.

There is too much ambiguity (look at all of the other letters received, and the "jazz ball" responses from the SA's) and not enough transparency. Then there is out and out not being honest. Each person has to decide for themselves which is true and which is an illusion or fantasy.

I wanted to bring up this again since I feel like the response chanel made has been buried in the posts. They responded with:
"Chanel has always abided by the principle of sourcing raw materials, technology and craftsmanship from wherever they are reputed to be the best in the world (yarn or leather from Italy and France, cashmere from Scotland and watch-making skills in Switzerland), the prêt-a-porter and leather goods being made exclusively in Europe. "

Tutu I agree they are not being transparent about a lot of things in terms of the cosmetics, CJ and other items. I wouldn't include slg's in this since their response said leather goods are made exclusively in Europe and even though a slg is small it is still a leather good. If we just focus this discussion on bags which is where the subject line started I think they are being transparent that the leather is from Italy or France and the bags are made in Europe. Would it bother me to know a Turnlock hardware or chain that is on my bag was made in China? No it does not personally bother me. Would it bother me if my bag was mainly assembled in China and had the finishing touches added in Italy so it bears a made in Italy stamp as so many people are alleging? Yes it would. I think that is not the case with *bags* though since they are very clear on that point.
 
Ladies, did i understand it right, chanel not only make hardware in china, but also leather parts ?


At the very least they are supplying the parts; the bags might actually be assembled in China as well, with final touches made in France, Italy or Spain to allow Chanel to place the 'Made In ..' stamp in the bags.


Allegedly


I don't think this is the case although I am reading that repeatedly in this thread. Please read my post above and see if you still think this is the case based on their response.
 
Tutu, the reason chanel produces most of its leather goods in Italy and not France,is that minimum wages in Italy are considerably lower.even the most gifted artisans don't get paid by hour, instead it can be negotiated between employer and employees to be paid a monthly pay ,and it has to be within the expected pay range for their profession, so they can produce exceptional pieces with exotic leather or whatever,without costing extra expenses,
But all of their ready to wear items are still made in France,and that way they cost a fortune, and the prices are escalating within each season,a pair of jeans from the Dallas collection costs €800 a pop,the ensamble emma stone to the premier of spiderman costs more than €30000, and is only by special order, jacket from the pre fall I estimated to be worth around €8000 was priced around the €18000 mark because of a few beaded motifs, and judging by all the beading,silks and embroideries showcased in the Dubai resort collection,prices will even be more ridiculous.


I reread that email again, I don't think that its ambiguous at all, lady Sara is right, chanel produces hundreds of articles, everything from makeup brushes, to 300k couture gowns. The makeup packaging or perfumes bottles might be manufactured in china, chanel still uses other companies to manufacture these products ,these companies are French,but they have moved their production to china a while ago.
So technically,they can't just deny it and say no ,the house of chanel doesn't manufacture anything in china.:smile1:
 
Tutu, the reason chanel produces most of its leather goods in Italy and not France,is that minimum wages in Italy are considerably lower.even the most gifted artisans don't get paid by hour, instead it can be negotiated between employer and employees to be paid a monthly pay ,and it has to be within the expected pay range for their profession, so they can produce exceptional pieces with exotic leather or whatever,without costing extra expenses,
But all of their ready to wear items are still made in France,
and that way they cost a fortune, and the prices are escalating within each season,a pair of jeans from the Dallas collection costs €800 a pop,the ensamble emma stone to the premier of spiderman costs more than €30000, and is only by special order, jacket from the pre fall I estimated to be worth around €8000 was priced around the €18000 mark because of a few beaded motifs, and judging by all the beading,silks and embroideries showcased in the Dubai resort collection,prices will even be more ridiculous.


I reread that email again, I don't think that its ambiguous at all, lady Sara is right, chanel produces hundreds of articles, everything from makeup brushes, to 300k couture gowns. The makeup packaging or perfumes bottles might be manufactured in china, chanel still uses other companies to manufacture these products ,these companies are French,but they have moved their production to china a while ago.
So technically,they can't just deny it and say no ,the house of chanel doesn't manufacture anything in china.:smile1:

Please see the following tags from RTW:

These are just a few, and if my clothes weren't pretty much packed, I could provide examples of RTW made in other countries as well. Chanel is not making their RTW only in France, but they are indeed charging more and more for these items every year, while I notice the quality is not what it used to be. I now were other labels into Chanel and the SA's are asking me if the jacket/what not is theirs when it's not. When it is, they fawn all over the details the RTW used to have and how well they were done, and they themselves talk about how the quality has fallen.

I do believe Smalls stated in her post that things can be made from raw materials from anywhere in Europe. I think my labels prove that it's not just the raw materials but the garments.

I don't feel there is transparency at all from Chanel on items. That you said their "makeup packaging or perfume bottles might be produced in [sic] China" this makes me wonder even more. They have stated that some items are made in other countries. I think it's also reasonable to expect that they have done what other countries have done, and import workers from other countries and call them "artisans" so they can use the "made in..." label. Many have testified to this practice. I have tried to use concise facts and examples, so there is no doubt about my posts.
 

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Tutu, the reason chanel produces most of its leather goods in Italy and not France,is that minimum wages in Italy are considerably lower.even the most gifted artisans don't get paid by hour, instead it can be negotiated between employer and employees to be paid a monthly pay ,and it has to be within the expected pay range for their profession, so they can produce exceptional pieces with exotic leather or whatever,without costing extra expenses,

Show me where gifted, talented artisans working for top brands are paid by the piece; this sounds like something from a sweatshop. Three examples would be great.

But all of their ready to wear items are still made in France,and that way they cost a fortune, and the prices are escalating within each season,a pair of jeans from the Dallas collection costs €800 a pop,the ensamble emma stone to the premier of spiderman costs more than €30000, and is only by special order, jacket from the pre fall I estimated to be worth around €8000 was priced around the €18000 mark because of a few beaded motifs, and judging by all the beading,silks and embroideries showcased in the Dubai resort collection,prices will even be more ridiculous.

Do you know the prices of the heavily hand beaded (not machine beaded, but hand beaded) items? Have you looked at them closely in store? Please provide two examples of those you have seen and touched and know to be hand sewn and the relative prices.

I reread that email again, I don't think that its ambiguous at all, lady Sara is right, chanel produces hundreds of articles, everything from makeup brushes, to 300k couture gowns. The makeup packaging or perfumes bottles might be manufactured in china, chanel still uses other companies to manufacture these products ,these companies are French,but they have moved their production to china a while ago.
So technically,they can't just deny it and say no ,the house of chanel doesn't manufacture anything in china.:smile1:

Actually, I have read every post and I don't think some are right and some are "more right than others." I don't think it's proper to smirk at anyone. I would just like people to think and to provide concrete examples to back up what they say. THAT is transparency and investigative. Just accepting what one is told is not. Chanel actually admitted the makeup brushes (not the packaging) are made in other countries. So technically, if Chanel uses someone to produce something for them, they ARE in fact making something for Chanel and Chanel is going to put the Chanel name on it. If it comes from another country, it's outsourced and thus proves the original point of this thread. No smiley face.
 
Re: wages in Italy being proportional to productivity:

Discussion and conclusions

Our analysis suggests that in Italy, in contrast with Germany, wages do not substantially reflect sector productivity in the short run, while in the long-run, they tend to rise in sectors in which productivity falls. Moreover, in the short-run relative wages in Italy respond much more to changes in relative prices than in Germany. Finally, employment in Italy tends to move towards less productive sectors. This ‘allocation failure’ of the labour market calls into question the current model of wage bargaining.

What are the critical aspects? In Italy, the share of contracts covered by some form of collective bargaining is among the highest among Western countries: around 85%. This happens despite the fact that union membership is on the low side, around 30%, in international comparison. The reason is that collective contracts typically apply to non-unionised workers as well as unionised ones, and they are also enforced outside the sector where they are negotiated. Furthermore, while the average length of collective contracts in Italy is 3 years, in line with the OECD average, the de-facto duration is much longer, due to recurring delays in contracts’ renewals.3 As of today, only between 30 to 40% of Italian firms use in-company bargaining (Treu 2009), while this percentage is close to zero for companies located in the South.

Germany’s institutional framework is very different. Collective bargaining takes place at Lander level; this helps keeping wages well in line with firms’ productivity in a situation where there is a lot of heterogeneity among regions. This ‘opt-out’ clause has recently been introduced in Spain and has allowed wages to align to productivity at the firm level.

In the list of priorities for labour market reforms, we think that the goal of re-establishing a strong relationship between wages and productivity at the firm (and employee) level should come first. This requires shifting the main level of wage determination to the firm level. Otherwise, introducing additional elements of flexibility in a distorted labour market would have little or perverse effects on labour productivity, wages, and employment.

http://www.voxeu.org/article/wages-productivity-and-employment-italy
 
Fashion Inflation: Why Are Prices Rising So Fast?
BY LAUREN SHERMAN 2 AUGUST, 2013
From shoes to handbags to ready-to-wear, the price of designer fashion has increased precipitously over the last decade. What’s driving the rising prices? And how high can they go?

NEW YORK, United States — It’s easy to find a nice-looking pair of shoes for $40 these days, and even easier to find a trendy $40 dress. But while “fast fashion” prices are so light on the wallet they almost feel as though they’re going to disappear altogether, the cost of luxury goods continues to rise and rise, with no end in sight.

Currently on luxury e-tailer Net-a-Porter, there are more than 100 pairs of shoes priced over $1,000. (Two pairs of sparkly Christian Louboutins
exceed $6,000.) And the price of Chanel’s famous 2.55 bag now rivals that of an Hermès Kelly. That is, an Hermès Kelly a decade ago. In the US market, the famous bag, which in the year 2000 started at $4,800, now starts at $7,600.

A nearly 60 percent price increase may seem excessive — especially when compared to the US Consumer Price Index (a measure of the price level of consumer goods, published by the US Bureau of Labor Statistics), which has increased by 27 percent over the past decade — but it’s typical in the luxury fashion category.

Indeed, in recent years, prices of luxury fashion products have grown at more than twice the rate of general inflation. In 2003, Carrie Bradshaw’s famous Manolo Blahniks cost $485. Exactly ten years later, the same style is $755, a 56 percent increase. (And several pairs of current season Manolos cost well above $1,000.) Ready-to-wear-dresses in the $10,000 and up range barely existed 10 years ago. Now they’re commonplace. In fact, popular luxury fashion e-commerce site Luisa Via Roma is currently selling a Fausto Puglisi embroidered tartan skirt for over $10,000 and a leather-and-bouclé Fendi dress for more than $13,000.

So what’s driving up the prices and how far can they go?

First, let’s consider the rough costs of producing a luxury product. Gross margins for luxury companies typically hover around 65 percent — that sounds like a lot, but it’s what shareholders now expect. It also means that a $3,500 bag costs roughly $1,225 to produce and bring to market, all the way from materials to sale. There are many steps along the way that contribute to the final price. There are the costs of raw materials, design, manufacturing and fulfillment. Then, at retail, there’s the cost of prime real estate and sales staff. And finally, there’s marketing: those glossy fashion adverts cost a pretty penny to produce, let alone to place. Over the past 10
years — and particularly since the end of the recession — many of these costs have increased dramatically.

Raw materials are more expensive and more scarce than ever before. Cattle prices (which are relevant to leather goods) will rise in the US by 7.3 percent in 2013, according to market research firm Allendale. And in the years since the global financial crisis, cotton prices have risen to previously unheard of levels, with demand from China pushing them even further in 2013 — to $93.08 in June 2013, a 13 percent increase year-on-year. Both Louis Vuitton and Hermès have recently invested in Australian crocodile farms to ensure their supply of the expensive skin, while Kering, in March, acquired Normandy-based crocodile tannery France Croco for the same reasons.

Rising labour costs are a factor, too. The wages of private-sector workers in China (where many brands manufacture) increased by 14 percent in 2012, according to China’s National Bureau of Statistics. Over the past 10 years, monthly average wages almost doubled in Asia, with an 18 percent increase in Africa, and 15 percent in Latin America and the Caribbean (also important manufacturing centres) according to a report released by the UN’s International Labour Organisation. And it’s not just emerging markets. In France, labour costs will, this year, reach their highest levels ever, according to the OECD.

Perception and desirability play a huge role in the pricing game, too. The more expensive something is, the more exclusive and, therefore, desirable it becomes. Burberry, for instance, said as recently as March that it would raise prices to increase its appeal to the upper end of its customer base and attract new, wealthier customers.

For some brands, the anticipation of markdowns is another factor. “Brands’ biggest fear is having to mark things down,” says New York retail consultant Robert Burke. Though a few luxury brands, like Hermès and Louis Vuitton, do not discount, it’s typical for most fashion retailers to mark down at least a portion of their product in order to efficiently clear inventory. One need look no further than the department stores and monobrand boutiques currently offering discounts of more than 70 percent
on Spring product to see that customers can, with the requisite strategy and patience, easily buy a pair of $1,400 stilettos for a much more palatable $300. “People who are on the really cutting edge of fashion might buy pre-season [at full price] but many folks wait for the discounts,” says journalist Ellen Ruppel Shell, author of Cheap: The High Cost of Discount Culture.

“Designer brands repeatedly going on sale may eventually be forced to artificially inflate prices to counter the margin pressure,” notes Matthew Walker, Creatures of the Wind chief executive, who served as president of The Row from 2008 to 2011. Though this could “lead to price resistance and eventually impact brand loyalty,” he cautions.

But perhaps the most powerful driver of fast-rising luxury fashion prices is the fact that there are simply more people who are able to pay up. The number of high-net-worth individuals (HNWIs) in the world increased by 9.2 percent in 2012 to 12 million people, with combined total assets of $46.2 trillion, according to a report by Capgemini, a management consultancy. North America still hosts the largest number of HNWIs (3.73 million people, up 11.5 percent year-over-year, with $12.7 trillion in assets, up 11.7 percent year-over-year), but the number of HNWIs in the Asia-Pacific region increased by 9.4 percent, during the same period, to 3.68 million, with total assets up 12.2 percent to $12 trillion.

Yes, the rich are getting richer. But is there a limit to what a sane person — billionaire or not — is willing to pay for a pair of shoes? “The question is, how high is high?” Burke asks. “These are people who have their jets outfitted in Hermès leather and Loro Piana vicuna. If demand is there, brands will continue to move up.”
 
Tutu, please reread my posts, I never said they were paid by the piece, I live in Europe, and it's very common for French labels to manufacture their products in Italy, and why do you bring other European countries to this? When I only mentioned France and Italy?
 
The ‘Made in China/Made in Italy’ problem of national brands
Vanessa Friedman

There is an interesting report in the Financial Times today about declining sales of China’s local-brand cars, and it has got me thinking about the benefits and problems of “national” brands – that is to say, not state-owned brands, but rather the perceptions surrounding the name of a country, ie its own brand, when attached to product, and the way this can work for and against manufacturers.

Blame it on the Made in Italy and Made in France strategy the luxury industry so cannily implemented back in the day (a recent BCG/Altagamma/Sanford Bernstein Global Consumer Insight study of about 40,000 consumers in more than 20 countries found a whopping 80% of consumers think “Made in is key”) but seems to me, when it comes to consumers, products do not just have to be good, they have to somehow come to grips with national stereotype, and either neuter it or exploit it. But what they cannot do is ignore it (nor, necessarily, as they are currently contemplating in China, protect it by raising barriers to entry to outsiders; that does not actually solve the problem, it exacerbates it by implying the brands on their own are not good enough to make it without government help).

We in luxury talk a lot about what happens when, say, China produces a local luxury brand to threaten the big European brands, but it would have to overcome the national brand hurdle as well as any aesthetic criteria, and that may be a bigger obstacle than we’ve thought.

On the other hand, that BCG paper discovered 44% of consumers polled thought “Made in Italy” was the hallmark of excellence in clothing, accessories and jewellery – more even than Made in France (only 17% of those polled considered that best, and for watches Switzerland won, and Germany for cars). It gets even more interesting when broken down by country of respondents: 63% of South Koreans thought “Made in Italy” topped Made in France (which came tops with 24%); 34% vs 24% of Brazilians; and 63% vs 13% of Russians.

All of which is to say, the resources the Italian government and luxury industry have put behind pushing the “Made in Italy” idea – and from a JV with the Qataris to lobbying Brussels, they are meaningful – are paying off.

So it works both ways, although it also takes real effort to build that kind of profile, and centralised commitment to pushing a specific national characteristic, which can be politically uncomfortable and thus hard to agree.

http://blogs.ft.com/material-world/...hinamade-in-italy-problem-of-national-brands/
 
Now, the problem with Chanel raising prices continually is there is this "tipping point" which I have alluded to previously. This article seems to support that view:

The China Luxury Downturn Is Real - Global Luxury Brands Must Adjust


吃苦 (chī kǔ): To Eat Bitterness. For centuries Chinese people have used this term to teach and remind themselves and their children that it is important to endure hardship, to develop a thick skin and to keep persevering no matter how many obstacles are put in your way, and ultimately you will get through tough times and succeed.

Luxury companies currently operating in China and those who are considering market entry are looking back on 2013 as a period where growth in the premium luxury market slowed and the trend is looking to continue in 2014.Rings

Things were especially hard for companies that depend on gifting (an important cultural and business practice in China) and for high end restaurants and beverage purveyors.

I have preached Chi Ku as a corporate philosophy to the hundreds of companies that I have worked with on entering and growing in China over the last twelve years and advise Luxury brands to internalize it now as well. While there is an overall downturn, marked by steeper drops in some categories than others, and marked by upticks in others, the overall trajectory of the luxury industry, like that of the overall consumer market in China is still pointing up.

Here we will look at why there has been a downturn, why luxury companies should stay the course and where the opportunities for continued growth are even during a slowdown.


A number factors have driven growth down to about 2% from 7%-15% over the last few years.

1. President Xi Jingping is intent of making a huge dent in the endemic corruption in Chinese politics and business. Luxury items are sometimes used as a form of currency for favors and Guanxi (reciprocal relationships). One way Beijing is enforcing its anti-corruption edicts is by cracking down of gift giving, government group buying and conspicuous consumption. They also see luxury buying as an outcome of officials receiving Hongbao (payoffs.bribes). All of this is making some wealthy Chinese private citizens and public employees think twice about buying and wearing $50,000 watches and $10,000 suits and drinking $1,000 bottles of Baiju at nightly banquets.

2. The desire for and increased sales of “Accessible Luxuy” brands (a sub-category of luxury below premium luxury) has been a key growth driver in the China luxury market. This trend is also fueling a desire among the nouveu riche as well as emerging middle class luxury consumers for the casual luxury of American brands and lifestyle living. This has had an effect on top-tier luxury products but has also been a bright spot. Brands like COACH, Michael Kors and Tory Burch are thriving in China.

3. Chinese luxury spending on the mainland is down in part because Chinese global consumer purchases are up in the rest of the world. Almost 60% of all luxury purchase made by Chinese citizen happen outside the mainland.

4. Chinese luxury consumers are turning increasingly toward spending their ample disposable income on lifestyle purchases in addition to pure social status products.

Roy Graff, an expert in Chinese luxury travel and hospitality and founder of China Edge also points out that “the intense competition among established and new entrants to the Chinese luxury market” has affected growth for established brands and that “the growth of e-commerce has driven prices and value down for many of the previously highly desirable brands.” Online sales of brands like GUCCI and PRADA have increased and are not always sold through brand sanctioned platforms.


This has made some Luxury companies nervous. Some are considering slowing their China growth and others are even considering pulling out altogether. Sidelining, shrinking or avoiding China is a huge mistake for luxury companies as this slowdown is a temporary situation and long-term China is and will be the most important luxury market in the world.

Some key reasons for luxury brands to continue investing in China as a long-term growth market and not to make impulsive short-term decisions are:

After 30 years of exponential economic growth and development, China’s economy is slowing, but this is relative, from 10% to 6%-7%, which is still robust – luxury purchases will continue to grow with the economy in general.
Urbanization and an ever enlarging middle and upper class is fueling further growth for the best things in life – While 1st Tier cities and regions have been saturated, the new growth will come from Tier 2, , 3, 4 and 5 cities, representing another potential 300 million new luxury buyers.
Current events and government policy are always fluid in China. When the differences between legitimate and illegitimate purchases are sorted out “this too shall pass.”
The accessible luxury market will continue to grow and prosper.
Sage Brennan, co-founder of the consultancy China Luxury Advisors and an expert in Chinese luxury branding and retail says that “nothing has really changed, there are always ups and downs in the China market, this is a down, but the consumer is still spending, they just might not be spending where the brand is investing”. Brennan also notes that “Growth over the last few years has come from lower tier cities and that will deep and be long-lasting trend, along with overseas spending. “Brands need to focus on these realities.”

There are some key strategies luxury brands can implement to prosper in a temporary downturn that will also have long-term positive benefits:

Invest in identifying, attracting, serving and retaining the Global China Traveler. More than 100 million Chinese will be traveling abroad in the next couple of years and almost 60% of Chinese luxury purchases are made outside the mainland. Luxury brands must invest in the global and lifestyle desires and needs or Chinese luxury consumers.
Integrate domestic, global and China operations more closely.
Invest in more robust e-commerce and social media strategies inside the China market.
Rethink product lines, price points and merchandising.
Focus on Tier 2,3, and 4 cities.
Roy Graff also says that “brands must better manage a global inventory and sales system that understands how Chinese approach luxury purchasing. The Chinese customer is now global. The sooner those companies understand this the better. In most cases, China is a separate profit center, competing with other regions for the same customer. Thus, they do not share data across national borders.”

The premium luxury market has definitely slowed, but it will pick up again soon and in my opinion may grow even faster in the next ten years because of the established luxury demographic cohorts and the 300-400 million more potential buyers coming on line. Luxury brands and retailers need to stay the course , continue to invest in China, but need to adjust their strategies for both short and long-term growth. Luxury companies must “eat bitterness” for now with promise of sweets served for dessert.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/michael...urn-is-real-global-luxury-brands-must-adjust/
 
Made in China on the Sly

By DANA THOMAS
Published: November 23, 2007
Paris

AMERICA’S holiday shopping season, which officially opens today, is expected to yield sales 4 percent higher than last year. This growth is not likely to be seen at discount stores; their customers are feeling the credit crunch. But a big increase is predicted in sales of luxury-brand products like Burberry handbags, Prada scarves and Gucci ties, with prices high enough to make a difference.

Those prices are worth it, we are told, because these goods are handmade in Europe by artisans. In fact, that is not always the case — as we learned from the recent news reports on the activities of Norman Hsu, the ********ic political fund-raiser indicted on charges of investment fraud. Mr. Hsu told potential clients that he would use their money to finance the manufacturing of Gucci and Prada items in China — and promised a 40 percent return on the investment.

This was surprising, given that both brands have long maintained that they do not produce their wares there. A Prada spokesman reiterated it when the Hsu news broke, telling Women’s Wear Daily that Prada does not manufacture its products in China — though if you look inside one of Prada’s popular nylon toiletry cases, you’ll sometimes find a small tag that states otherwise.

For more than a century, the luxury fashion business was made up of small family companies that produced beautiful items of the finest materials. It was a niche business for a niche clientele. But in the late 1980s, business tycoons began to buy up these companies and turn them into billion-dollar global brands producing millions of logo-covered items for the middle market. The executives labeled this rollout the “********ization” of luxury, which is now a $157-billion-a-year industry.

To help these newly titanic brands retain an air of old-world luxury, marketing executives played up the companies’ heritage and claimed that the items were still made in Europe by hand — like Geppetto hammering in his workshop by candlelight. But this sort of labor is wildly expensive, the executives routinely explain, which is why the retail prices for luxury goods keep going up and up.

In fact, many luxury-brand items today are made on assembly lines in developing nations, where labor is vastly cheaper. I saw this firsthand when I visited a leather-goods factory in China, where women 18 to 26 years old earn $120 a month sewing and gluing together luxury-brand leather handbags, knapsacks, wallets and toiletry cases. One bag I watched them put together — for a brand whose owners insist is manufactured only in Italy — cost $120 apiece to produce. That evening, I saw the same bag at a Hong Kong department store with a price tag of $1,200 — a typical markup.

How do the brands get away with this? Some hide the “Made in China” label in the bottom of an inside pocket or stamped black on black on the back side of a tiny logo flap. Some bypass the “provenance” laws requiring labels that tell where goods are produced by having 90 percent of the bag, sweater, suit or shoes made in China and then attaching the final bits — the handle, the buttons, the lifts — in Italy, thus earning a “Made in Italy” label. Or some simply replace the original label with one stating it was made in Western Europe.

Not all luxury brands do the bait and switch. The chief executive of the French luxury brand Hermès readily told me that some of its silk scarves are hemmed by hand in Mauritius, where labor costs less. And Louis Vuitton, which boasts that it churns out its $3 billion worth of leather goods each year in its company-owned factories in France, Spain and Southern California, announced in September that it plans to build a factory in India to produce shoes.

But most brands aren’t so straightforward. To please customers looking for the “Made in Italy” label, several luxury companies now have their goods made in Italy by illegal Chinese laborers. Today, the Tuscan town of Prato, just outside of Florence and long the center for leather-goods production for brands like Gucci and Prada, has the second-largest population of Chinese in Europe, after Paris. More than half of the 4,200 factories in Prato are owned by Chinese entrepreneurs, some of whom pay their Chinese workers as little as two Euros ($3) an hour.

Luxury brand executives who declare that their items can be made only in Western Europe because Western European artisans are the only people who know what true luxury is are being not only hypocritical but also xenophobic. They are not selling “dreams,” as they like to suggest; they are hawking low-cost, high-profit items wrapped in logos. Consumers should keep in mind that luxury brands are capable of producing real quality at a reasonable price. They know better, and so should we.

Dana Thomas, Newsweek’s European cultural correspondent, is the author of “Deluxe: How Luxury Lost Its Luster.”
 
Made-in-USA Luxury Brands Win Fans in China
By Andrew Roberts and Liza Lin February 27, 2014

Corina Su would love to own a handbag or shoes from luxury brands such as Louis Vuitton (MC:FP) or Gucci (KER:FP). For now, Kate Spade (KATE), Michael Kors (KORS), or Coach (COH) will do. “We call these the ‘American trendy brands,’ ” says Su, a 25-year-old who works in advertising in Shanghai. She prefers Kate Spade’s bright colors and bold designs to the more muted styles offered by big European luxury houses that tout their heritage to justify charging more. “I might eventually buy an LV or Gucci bag,” Su says. “But it won’t be until I’m much older, I suspect.”

As Chinese shoppers such as Su get better acquainted with American luxury brands, they’re discovering a designer wardrobe doesn’t have to cost months of pay. That’s helping U.S. labels that offer fashions with a foreign pedigree but price tags in the hundreds of dollars even as European luxury-goods makers raise prices for some bags to more than $4,000 to combat slowing growth. “The Chinese market is developing into a middle-class market, looking a bit less elitist and a bit more American,” says Luca Solca, an analyst at Exane BNP Paribas.

The likes of Coach, Michael Kors, and Tory Burch had been slow to tap growing Chinese luxury demand partly because they have smaller distribution in Europe and Asia, says Lucie Greene, editor at LS:N Global, the research unit of London consultant Future Laboratory. The Chinese account for more than a quarter of global luxury spending, Bain estimates. As more Chinese travel to the U.S., sales of American fashion brands are poised to accelerate there and in China, Greene predicts. “Part of the allure of luxury brands is a sense of exclusivity and the exotic,” she says. “U.S. labels could well be where Chinese consumers turn next for newness.”

Coach, which gets about a fifth of North American store sales from tourists, says Chinese are its fastest-growing customer group, while Italy’s Prada (1913:HK) says it’s seeing fewer Chinese shoppers in Europe. The shift comes as the U.S. eases visa restrictions for Chinese nationals and a weaker dollar makes it cheaper for them to shop in Miami than in Milan. To capitalize on this, Coach is adding Mandarin-speaking staff in its U.S. stores. And Coach and Kors, a maker of $140 dresses and $225 studded high-top sneakers, are using Chinese social networking apps such as WeChat and opening more shops in China. The result: Coach reported an increase in comparable sales in China of at least 10 percent in the three months through Dec. 28, and Kate Spade saw comparable sales from its China joint venture rise 28 percent in the quarter ended on Sept. 28. Gucci, by contrast, says its China revenue fell in each of the last two quarters.

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Total luxury sales last year increased about 2 percent, to $19 billion, in mainland China as a government clampdown on flashy gifts to officials curbed growth, Bain estimates. Chinese consumers “feel an affinity to the U.S.,” says Citigroup (C) analyst Oliver Chen. With Coach playing up its New York identity, Michael Kors emphasizing its high-fashion DNA, and Kate Spade offering “whimsical” designs, “there is strong growth potential for these brands,” Chen says.

The Americans and Europeans don’t always target the same customers. Most Coach bags sell for less than $400, while Vuitton last year introduced the $3,850 W and $5,350 Capucine handbag lines in an attempt to move upmarket (though it has some offerings that sell for less than $500). Still, the availability of cheaper luxury goods is making Chinese consumers more price-sensitive, says Avery Booker, a partner at China Luxury Advisors in New York. For American companies, Booker says, “it’s really proving to be their time in the mainland.”

The bottom line: U.S. brands such as Coach, which sells bags for under $400, are growing faster in China than pricier European luxe lines.
Roberts is a reporter for Bloomberg News in Paris.
Lin is a reporter for Bloomberg News in Shanghai.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-02-27/made-in-usa-luxury-brands-win-fans-in-china
 
Luxury brands made in China:

High End Brands we all lust after really have to work hard to minimize the production costs while keeping their products “luxurious” and “high end”. I’m talking about those “Made in France” or “Made in Italy” labels people want to see inside bags they’ve paid hundreds and even thousands of dollars for, labels that are tiny, labels that nobody really sees, labels that read much better than the ones saying “Made in China”, labels that, apparently mean a lot! So, how do they do it? Well, the un-glamorous fact is that most high end brands outsource work, although some of them wouldn’t even dream of actually saying that in public! Luckily, a very small percentage of high end brands has no problem admitting their stuff are made in China and some, like Prada, believe that’s not only the most profitable option but the best in terms of quality as well! So, if you ever wanted to know which high end brands dropped slow but knowledgeable artisans for fast, skilled, easily adaptable factory workers, do keep reading!

Prada:

Oh my, could it be? Yes, there is a strong possibility that your beloved Prada bag is made in China! Surprising? Not really, especially if you’re a true Prada fan that likes to be informed about everything and anything involving this brand. Miuccia Prada is actually one of very few high end brands owners that was actually looking forward to moving part of the production to China (as well as various other countries) stating that: (and I quote) “Sooner or later, it will happen to everyone because [Chinese manufacturing] is so good.”

Coach:

Those fabulous Coach bags we ladies love so much are produced in China nowadays and although some long- time Coach fans say this was a very bad move, others really don’t really care where they beloved bags come from. People who had a chance to visit Coach Factories in China claim they are a very nice place to work in so, if Coach really manages to satisfy the needs of both workers and customers, I’d say, let them enjoy the extra profit.

Armani:

The next on my list of high end brands who aren’t afraid of labeling their products “Made in China” (or any other country those products are produced it) is, of course, Armani – a brand that’s produces fashion for all pockets and price ranges. Your gorgeous Armani watch might say “Made in China” and the same goes for many other items such as jeans or Armani Exchange pieces.

Burberry:

A lot of media dust had been raised once this popular British brand announced the decision to close the production in Wales and relocate it in Asia or America! Shocking? Outrageous? Nope, ladies, the word we’re looking for here is “Profitable”! This decision had put this, once quite traditional, brand on the list of many high end brands who now produce some of their goods in China and, although some find that very disappointing, reading various forums made me realize there are still tons of people who don’t really care, as long as the quality stays the same, of course!

Mulberry:

Mulberry bags start at about $900 but could end up costing you more than $5,000 which many folks consider outrageous, especially now, when it’s widely known this is one of those high end brands who doesn’t mind stamping their leather goods “Made in China”. I, personally, don’t mind as long as they do it in a way that makes both their customers and their employees happy!

Marc Jacobs:

Popular, commercial, relatively inexpensive Marc by Marc Jacobs line could have a “Made in China” label so, if you bought your MJ goodies in the official store, this tiny details definitely shouldn’t make you question their authenticity. Furthermore, fashion consultant Brent Klein confirmed this, stating that Marc Jacobs bags really are made in China although the leather used to make them is imported from Italy. Does that mean even those uberexpensive bags could have the “Made in China” label? Apparently, yes and… Guess what? It’s really not such a big deal!

D&G:

Although those expensive, luxury products are still made in Italy, it is no secret that this popular brand likes to outsource work! So, if you buy D&G glasses, don’t be surprised if they are “Made in China”! But China is not the only popular destination which means less expensive garments such as shirts or underwear could be made in Turkey or even in Serbia. Unlike some high end brands who resort to barely legal actions such as producing their stuff in China leaving only tiny pieces (and of course the “Made in …“ tag) to be added in France or Italy, D&G stuff are really made in the country noted in the “Made in” stamp/ writing/ label and, although it might not always be Italy, you can at least give them credits for being fair to their customers.

But what about all those high end brands whose business strategy involves false labeling? Well, quite honestly, I don’t even dare mentioning their names as they would probably hunt me down and sue me for everything I’ve got! You can, however, read one very interesting book called Deluxe: How Luxury Lost Its Luster which deals with this popular phenomenon as well as many other interesting things involving high end brands we often overpay! Be very careful though, as realizing that even some of the most prestigious, most high end brands outsource might ruin them for you! But, tell me – do you even care about that label nobody really sees or “Made in China” means “cheaper, potentially fake” to you?
 
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