My professor told me Chanel bags are all made in China but assembled in Europe?

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Chanel is not handmade . I do think most parts are out sourced and then assembled in Italy , France and Spain. Same with LV.

The Italian craftsmen are not even Italians with craft being passed down generations. They are often trained Immigrants .There is a thread somewhere here about this. So even Made in Italy has Chinese workers making our bags.

I still really love Chanel. the romanticized marketing is genius. I buy into it as I love my pieces and sill purchase. But I am fully aware of what is going on. They even want you to think only Chanel leather specialist will be repairing our bags when you drop them off. For a while, people were lead to believe their bag goes back to France to be worked on.
 
It's very interesting thread. I wish i could tell myself to stop thinking of buying more chanel for this particular reason.

If I want something made in China, I will WILLFULLY buy Tory Burch, Furla, Rebecca Minkoff et al. I once declined purchasing a Miu Miu handbag because it was made in Turkey. The SA was taken aback when I asked if it was made in Turkey. He reluctantly answered "YES."
 
This is nothing new; this has been going on for a very long time. When Chanel says that they bought out all the small artisans, it really just gave them full control of those artisans and whom they teach to copy their craft. Chanel bags are most certainly not made exclusively in France & Italy.

What's ironic is that more shoppers in China are starting to want to buy "made in America" brands, but those brands are all made in other places. What goes around, comes around.

OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR
Made in China on the Sly

By DANA THOMAS
Published: November 23, 2007
Paris

Jillian Tamaki
AMERICA’S holiday shopping season, which officially opens today, is expected to yield sales 4 percent higher than last year. This growth is not likely to be seen at discount stores; their customers are feeling the credit crunch. But a big increase is predicted in sales of luxury-brand products like Burberry handbags, Prada scarves and Gucci ties, with prices high enough to make a difference.

Those prices are worth it, we are told, because these goods are handmade in Europe by artisans. In fact, that is not always the case — as we learned from the recent news reports on the activities of Norman Hsu, the ********ic political fund-raiser indicted on charges of investment fraud. Mr. Hsu told potential clients that he would use their money to finance the manufacturing of Gucci and Prada items in China — and promised a 40 percent return on the investment.

This was surprising, given that both brands have long maintained that they do not produce their wares there. A Prada spokesman reiterated it when the Hsu news broke, telling Women’s Wear Daily that Prada does not manufacture its products in China — though if you look inside one of Prada’s popular nylon toiletry cases, you’ll sometimes find a small tag that states otherwise.

For more than a century, the luxury fashion business was made up of small family companies that produced beautiful items of the finest materials. It was a niche business for a niche clientele. But in the late 1980s, business tycoons began to buy up these companies and turn them into billion-dollar global brands producing millions of logo-covered items for the middle market. The executives labeled this rollout the “********ization” of luxury, which is now a $157-billion-a-year industry.

To help these newly titanic brands retain an air of old-world luxury, marketing executives played up the companies’ heritage and claimed that the items were still made in Europe by hand — like Geppetto hammering in his workshop by candlelight. But this sort of labor is wildly expensive, the executives routinely explain, which is why the retail prices for luxury goods keep going up and up.

In fact, many luxury-brand items today are made on assembly lines in developing nations, where labor is vastly cheaper. I saw this firsthand when I visited a leather-goods factory in China, where women 18 to 26 years old earn $120 a month sewing and gluing together luxury-brand leather handbags, knapsacks, wallets and toiletry cases. One bag I watched them put together — for a brand whose owners insist is manufactured only in Italy — cost $120 apiece to produce. That evening, I saw the same bag at a Hong Kong department store with a price tag of $1,200 — a typical markup.

How do the brands get away with this? Some hide the “Made in China” label in the bottom of an inside pocket or stamped black on black on the back side of a tiny logo flap. Some bypass the “provenance” laws requiring labels that tell where goods are produced by having 90 percent of the bag, sweater, suit or shoes made in China and then attaching the final bits — the handle, the buttons, the lifts — in Italy, thus earning a “Made in Italy” label. Or some simply replace the original label with one stating it was made in Western Europe.

Not all luxury brands do the bait and switch. The chief executive of the French luxury brand Hermès readily told me that some of its silk scarves are hemmed by hand in Mauritius, where labor costs less. And Louis Vuitton, which boasts that it churns out its $3 billion worth of leather goods each year in its company-owned factories in France, Spain and Southern California, announced in September that it plans to build a factory in India to produce shoes.

But most brands aren’t so straightforward. To please customers looking for the “Made in Italy” label, several luxury companies now have their goods made in Italy by illegal Chinese laborers. Today, the Tuscan town of Prato, just outside of Florence and long the center for leather-goods production for brands like Gucci and Prada, has the second-largest population of Chinese in Europe, after Paris. More than half of the 4,200 factories in Prato are owned by Chinese entrepreneurs, some of whom pay their Chinese workers as little as two Euros ($3) an hour.

Luxury brand executives who declare that their items can be made only in Western Europe because Western European artisans are the only people who know what true luxury is are being not only hypocritical but also xenophobic. They are not selling “dreams,” as they like to suggest; they are hawking low-cost, high-profit items wrapped in logos. Consumers should keep in mind that luxury brands are capable of producing real quality at a reasonable price. They know better, and so should we.

Dana Thomas, Newsweek’s European cultural correspondent, is the author of “Deluxe: How Luxury Lost Its Luster.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/23/opinion/23thomas.html?_r=0
 
Europe is really loosey goosey with its labeling laws - basically the EU states that any product that has its "final transformation" in the manufacturing process legally qualifies for a "Made In (Country)" tag but the whole product doesn't have to be made in country

So, sure, the overwhelming majority of the 180 steps involved in creating a Chanel handbag could very well take place in various Asian nations and the last couple take place in an Italian or French factory & it's completely legal to sell / market as "Made In..."

Made in USA is actually one of the most strict in terms of labeling laws. That's why it's so rare to see that tag on anything these days!
 
Europe is really loosey goosey with its labeling laws - basically the EU states that any product that has its "final transformation" in the manufacturing process legally qualifies for a "Made In (Country)" tag but the whole product doesn't have to be made in country

So, sure, the overwhelming majority of the 180 steps involved in creating a Chanel handbag could very well take place in various Asian nations and the last couple take place in an Italian or French factory & it's completely legal to sell / market as "Made In..."

Made in USA is actually one of the most strict in terms of labeling laws. That's why it's so rare to see that tag on anything these days!

There are a few:

http://madeinusaindex.com/made-in-usa-directory/

What is interesting is that when I went through my grandmother's and mother's clothing, there were so many quality garments still going strong (classic things like wool pants and linen, fine cotton, or silk shirts, sweaters, etc.) that were made in the USA. Now, so many garments are "fast fashion" and don't last but a few wears before starting to fall apart. Sad, that.
 
I am not surprised at all by this. Most supply chains run through low cost manufacturing countries. What I wonder is what assembly even means. Are they putting final hardware touches on in France and Italy? Or are they actually sewing the leathers together there? Stitching is an important part of the overall quality. At least to me.
 
I am not surprised at all by this. Most supply chains run through low cost manufacturing countries. What I wonder is what assembly even means. Are they putting final hardware touches on in France and Italy? Or are they actually sewing the leathers together there? Stitching is an important part of the overall quality. At least to me.

How many threads (pun not intended) have we seen about this thread loose or that thread sticking out? Seems to me quite a few....
 
So what makes this so different to items produced in sweat shops where illegal immigrants work for measly sums and even child labour is used. We try to be so conscious about NOT buying such items for conscience sake. In other words then, Chanel is telling us what we don't know won't hurt us???!!! No wonder the quilts on the classic flaps are no longer lining up as they should, as well as the myriad quality issues.
 
I am on my third Beige Jumbo in less than a year. I bought one in May 2013 in November the Handles were tarnishing, got it fixed and sold it. In March I bought another one and upon close inspection has a lot of loose threads, exchanged it and now I have the perfect one.
How many threads (pun not intended) have we seen about this thread loose or that thread sticking out? Seems to me quite a few....
 
I just started buying Chanel this year because...well, it's Chanel (I won't lie) but I also expected the quality to be amazing. The leather on my Chain Around Maxi started fading and I had only had the bag for two months. I sent it back to Saks and it's being 'repaired', which is going to take 2-3 months. This is just crazy to me for a bag that cost $3800. This post sort of explains it...
 
So what makes this so different to items produced in sweat shops where illegal immigrants work for measly sums and even child labour is used. We try to be so conscious about NOT buying such items for conscience sake. In other words then, Chanel is telling us what we don't know won't hurt us???!!! No wonder the quilts on the classic flaps are no longer lining up as they should, as well as the myriad quality issues.
Indeed...what is the difference? That they farm out the side jobs as so many companies do, and don't look too closely at the work done by said contractors? That the conditions of these contractor employees is less than the stellar image they portray, that the time-warn craft handed down from generation to generation is now learned in a few weeks to a couple of months? It's still consciously failing to have transparency...and I call that what I see...an untruth, a lie.
 
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