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At the 26th Annual Screen Actors Guild Awards in Los Angeles on January 19, 2020.

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Pregnant Michelle Williams and Thomas Kail Secretly Wed

By Sarah Hearon

Officially husband and wife! Michelle Williams and Thomas Kail, who are expecting their first child together, secretly tied the knot, a source confirms exclusively to Us Weekly.

The pregnant Oscar nominee, 39, and the director, 43, sparked marriage speculation earlier this week when they were spotted wearing rings on their wedding fingers in photos obtained by the Daily Mail. Us confirmed in December 2019 that Williams and Kail were engaged after working together on FX’s Fosse/Verdon.

“They’re very happy and thrilled to be bringing a baby into the world,” an insider told Us in January, noting that the couple were hoping “to be married” before Williams gave birth.

The Dawson’s Creek alum was previously married to singer-songwriter Phil Elverum. They called it quits in April 2019 after less than a year of marriage. (Williams is also the mother of 14-year-old Matilda, whom she shared with the late Heath Ledger.) Kail, meanwhile, split from Angela Christian sometime between late 2018 and early 2019.

According to the source, Williams and Kail “fell hard and fast for each other”after their respective splits from their spouses.

“It’s messy behind the scenes,” the source added.

Back in January, the actress gave Kail and Matilda a shout-out during her acceptance speech for Best Female Actor in a Television Movie or Limited Series at the 26th annual Screen Actors Guild Awards.

“Tom, I share this with you,” she said. “Matilda, it is one thing to be completely honest as an actor, it is another to be completely honest as a human being. That is just who you are and how you live. You teach me by being you. I love you and I am coming home.”

Backstage, Williams confirmed that she was going to take time off as she waits for the arrival of her second child.

“I haven’t taken a job since [Fosse/Verdon.] I have something else I have to go do,” she told reporters. “I’ll be home, but it’s a hard act to follow. … There was singing, dancing. It was such a feast and knowing where to go from here, I feel a little bit stuck. Like, I want that job again. Like, Gwen in her 60s or something. I miss it.”

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Pregnant Michelle Williams and Thomas Kail Secretly Wed

By Sarah Hearon

Officially husband and wife! Michelle Williams and Thomas Kail, who are expecting their first child together, secretly tied the knot, a source confirms exclusively to Us Weekly.

The pregnant Oscar nominee, 39, and the director, 43, sparked marriage speculation earlier this week when they were spotted wearing rings on their wedding fingers in photos obtained by the Daily Mail. Us confirmed in December 2019 that Williams and Kail were engaged after working together on FX’s Fosse/Verdon.

“They’re very happy and thrilled to be bringing a baby into the world,” an insider told Us in January, noting that the couple were hoping “to be married” before Williams gave birth.

The Dawson’s Creek alum was previously married to singer-songwriter Phil Elverum. They called it quits in April 2019 after less than a year of marriage. (Williams is also the mother of 14-year-old Matilda, whom she shared with the late Heath Ledger.) Kail, meanwhile, split from Angela Christian sometime between late 2018 and early 2019.

According to the source, Williams and Kail “fell hard and fast for each other”after their respective splits from their spouses.

“It’s messy behind the scenes,” the source added.

Back in January, the actress gave Kail and Matilda a shout-out during her acceptance speech for Best Female Actor in a Television Movie or Limited Series at the 26th annual Screen Actors Guild Awards.

“Tom, I share this with you,” she said. “Matilda, it is one thing to be completely honest as an actor, it is another to be completely honest as a human being. That is just who you are and how you live. You teach me by being you. I love you and I am coming home.”

Backstage, Williams confirmed that she was going to take time off as she waits for the arrival of her second child.

“I haven’t taken a job since [Fosse/Verdon.] I have something else I have to go do,” she told reporters. “I’ll be home, but it’s a hard act to follow. … There was singing, dancing. It was such a feast and knowing where to go from here, I feel a little bit stuck. Like, I want that job again. Like, Gwen in her 60s or something. I miss it.”

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Oscar Isaac, Michelle Williams to Star in HBO Limited Series

The project is an adaptation of Ingmar Bergman's 'Scenes From a Marriage.'

By Rick Porter

HBO has ordered a limited series based on Ingmar Bergman's Scenes From a Marriage, with Oscar Issac and Michelle Williams set to star.

The project comes from Hagai Levi (Our Boys, The Affair), who will adapt Bergman's classic miniseries and direct. Media Res and Endeavor Content are producing.

The limited series will reexamine the original miniseries' iconic depiction of love, hatred, desire, monogamy, marriage and divorce through the lens of a contemporary American couple played by Isaac (Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker, HBO's Show Me a Hero) and Williams (Fosse/Verdon, The Greatest Showman).

Scenes From a Marriage continues Levi's relationship with HBO, which includes the Israeli drama Our Boys and the critically acclaimed In Treatment. He executive produces with Michael Ellenberg of Media Res, Lars Blomgren, Williams, Isaac, Daniel Bergman, Blair Breard and Amy Herzog.

Bergman's Scenes From a Marriage, starring Liv Ullmann and Erland Josephson, originally aired on Swedish television in 1973. The six-part series was condensed for a theatrical release, which debuted in 1974 in the U.S. PBS aired the full miniseries later in the decade.

The project is the latest in a line of high-profile limited series from the premium cable outlet, including recent entries I Know This Much Is True, The Plot Against America, Watchmen and Sharp Objects and the upcoming We Are Who We Are, The Undoing and The Third Day.

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‘I Needed to Stand Up and Deliver’: Michelle Williams Goes All in on Spielberg, Pay Equity and the Press
By Brent Lang

Michelle Williams doesn’t quite know how to describe it.

There’s just this thing that comes over her when she’s on a movie set, granting her a transportive ability to shape-shift and access untapped reservoirs of emotion somewhere between the time a director yells “action” and “cut.”

“Everything opens up,” she says. “And I’ve found that the more I practice acting, the better I can navigate this kind of dream space. It’s a space where you don’t really exist. There’s no beginning, there’s no end. You’re in your unconscious.”

Whatever she’s tapping into, it seems to be working. It enabled her to plumb the depths of despair as the grieving mother in “Manchester by the Sea,” and summit the heights of absurdity as the Goop-ified cosmetics CEO in “I Feel Pretty.” And it’s on display in every frame of her newest film, “Showing Up,” a low-budget drama in which Williams channels a tightly wound artist named Lizzie, who is roiling with resentment and frustration while waiting for the muse to appear.

“She’s game for anything. That’s the main thing. That’s what makes it fun,” says Kelly Reichardt, the director of “Showing Up,” and Williams’ most frequent collaborator.

The two are heading to the Cannes Film Festival, where “Showing Up” will debut as one of the only female-directed movies this year to play in competition.

Over the course of Williams’ career, Reichardt is the one filmmaker who has proved to be the most adept at accessing the magic of Michelle. Having worked together for the past 15 years on four movies, Williams and Reichardt have partnered to bring a series of neorealist looks at American life to the screen. There’s “Wendy and Lucy” with Williams as a down-on-her-luck woman desperately trying to find her lost dog; “Meeks Cutoff ” with the actress portraying a flinty pioneer woman on a wagon train to nowhere; and “Certain Women,” in which she embodies a yuppie exploiting a senile local. In all of Williams and Reichardt’s work, there’s a constant thrum of economic anxiety, one that seems particularly resonant in an era of rising prices, stagnant wages and an ever-widening expanse between haves and have nots.

“I like an underdog,” says Reichardt. “If you’re focused on the minutiae of day-to-day stuff, which my films do, you get into the nitty-gritty. You’re thinking about how to pay the rent or pay the bills. Those struggles are easily relatable.”

That financial precariousness is also familiar to indie directors like Reichardt. Despite being hailed as a major auteur, she has rarely commanded budgets of more than $2 million, a pittance in Hollywood, and has sometimes had to endure long stretches between films while scrambling for financing.

“Am I going to regret saying this?” Williams asks at one point during her Variety interview at a nearly deserted Indian restaurant in Brooklyn a few blocks from her home. “Kelly spent a lot of time on [friends’] couches. Even as a revered filmmaker, she teaches [at Bard College] to supplement her filmmaking. Because she makes films infrequently, she doesn’t have health insurance through the DGA. So, she has a theater named after her at the Sorbonne, but she has to teach to get health insurance.”

Williams is quick to note that Reichardt loves teaching, but the point still stands. Art-house filmmaking isn’t going to make anybody rich. In fact, “Showing Up” was notable for having a few more creature comforts than some of Reichardt’s other films. “Michelle told me this was the first time they had a hair-and-makeup trailer,” says co-star Hong Chau. “It was a big deal.”

Despite the hardships, Reichardt and “Showing Up” are about to have their profile raised significantly by the film’s Cannes screening. The director is also due to receive the Carrosse d’Or award at the festival in recognition of her career; it’s a prize that has previously been bestowed upon the likes of Agnes Varda and Martin Scorsese. Cannes will also kick off an eventful 2022 for Williams, one that will see her not only reunite with Reichardt but will include her first collaboration with Steven Spielberg, who tapped the actress to play his mother in his upcoming semi-autobiographical film, “The Fabelmans.”

“We were sitting around the house in COVID, with one day looking a lot like the next, and my phone beeped, and I had a message that Steven wanted to talk to me,” Williams remembers, her eyes welling up with tears. “I couldn’t comprehend that he might want to work with me. I thought he had a question or something. Then he got on the Zoom and told me that he wanted me to play this person, his mama.”

It felt like the culmination of something that she had long been working toward, Williams says. Growing up in a small town in Montana, her first exposure to the movies came with watching Spielberg films like “Empire of the Sun.” As she matured, the idea that one day they might collaborate continued to motivate her.

“I’ve been doing this since I was 12,” Williams says. “My first agent was also an undertaker. I’ve had a lot of different experiences in this profession, but this felt like the ultimate.”

Working on “The Fabelmans” came with an added sense of responsibility, because it is so personal to Spielberg. The film follows a movie-loving kid, growing up in Arizona, charting both his big ambitions and the emotional devastation that accompanies his parents’ divorce. Williams stars alongside Paul Dano as Spielberg’s father, with Seth Rogen as his beloved uncle. Tony Kushner, the “Angels in America” playwright who has worked with the director on “Lincoln” and “West Side Story,” is penning the script.

“It’s funny, it’s sad, it’s kind of everything,” Williams says. “It’s the muchness of life. We’re trying to reflect all of that.”

“The Fabelmans” hits theaters in the fall, roughly the same time that the 41-year-old Williams and her husband, “Fosse/Verdon” director Thomas Kail, will be expecting a new addition to their family. It will be Williams’ second child with Kail. The couple have a son, Hart, who is almost 2, and Williams has a 16-year-old daughter, Matilda, from her relationship with the late actor Heath Ledger.

“It’s totally joyous,” Williams says. “As the years go on, you sort of wonder what they might hold for you or not hold for you. It’s exciting to discover that something you want again and again is available one more time. That good fortune is not lost on me or my family.”

Williams gave birth to Hart during lockdown, and she says that raising a young child has helped to put all the dark headlines from the pandemic era in perspective.

“It was a reminder that life goes on,” she says. “The world we brought a baby into is not the world we thought we were bringing a baby into, but the baby is ignorant of that. He experiences the unmitigated joy of discovery and the happiness of a loving home.”

Before COVID changed daily life, Williams was juggling several projects. She was planning to return to Broadway — where she has already appeared in a revival of “Cabaret” and in the drama “Blackbird” — with “Mary Jane.” The Amy Herzog play, about a woman and her chronically ill son, had an acclaimed run Off-Broadway in 2017, where Williams first saw it and became obsessed. On screen, she had been slated to star as Janis Joplin but revealed that the film has yet to secure financing, and to appear in Todd Haynes’ biopic about the singer Peggy Lee. “It’s gone the way of the buffalo, I’m afraid,” Williams says. “But if anyone reading this story would like to resurrect it, Todd and I are on board for that.”

That means that Williams will take a break until the baby is born.

“I got nothing,” she says. “I wondered if I could work while I was pregnant, but I’m too tired.”

Though much of the drama in Reichardt’s films hinges on dollars and cents, Williams says getting rich was never something that she thought much about. The kinds of stories she was attracted to weren’t blockbusters or franchise fare. Instead, she blazed a path through indies, working with the likes of Charlie Kaufman and Wim Wenders as well as Reichardt.

“Like most women, I always had a very uneasy relationship with money,” she says. “It was never a motivating factor for me. My deepest desire was to contribute artistically to a way of working and to a kind of work, and I never had any illusions that would have big dollars attached to it.”

Given that, it was surprising when Williams found herself, in 2018, a very public face of the gender pay gap after it was revealed that she earned an $80 per diem for reshoots on “All the Money in the World,” while her co-star Mark Wahlberg received $1.5 million. The issue arose after the cast reassembled to replace disgraced actor Kevin Spacey with Christopher Plummer. In the wake of the furor, Williams found herself at a crossroads.

“I grew up a lot in that moment, because doing anything in public is very difficult for me,” she says. “But I felt like I was getting a clear message that I needed to stand up and deliver. I needed to ask myself, can I be a big enough, strong enough and mature enough person to see the opportunity in front of me and take it?”

So, Williams threw herself into the arena. She talked to activists in the field, such as Mónica Ramírez, co-founder of the National Farmworker Women’s Alliance and head of the National Latina Equal Pay Day campaign, to learn more about the problems of pay inequity. What she came to realize was that she needed to broaden her ideas about the value of money.

“I saw that it’s not just about a strict dollar amount,” she says. “It’s about self-worth. It’s about establishing a market value for something. And it’s up to all of us to say this is the right amount, the fair amount.”

Armed with this knowledge, Williams spoke out from the front-lines, using her acceptance speech at the 2019 Emmys when she won for “Fosse/Verdon” to remind Hollywood that “The next time a woman, and especially a woman of color … tells you what she needs in order to do her job, listen to her.”

Her colleagues in the entertainment industry took note. “It was badass,” says Amy Schumer, who appeared with Williams in “I Feel Pretty.” “By doing that, she took away the excuse for anyone else not to be transparent about their pay. That helped a lot of people.”

During that time, Williams also traveled to Capitol Hill, joining Speaker of the House Nancy ****** in support of the Paycheck Fairness Act, legislation that aims to close the wage gap. It was there that ****** helped Williams better grasp the role she had played in shining a spotlight on a problem that extended far beyond Hollywood.

“It’s too hard to understand the difference between $10 an hour and $12.90 an hour,” Williams says ****** told her. “But when you can talk about $80 a day versus a million and a half dollars, it illuminates the gap that we all experience. It makes it understandable.”

Williams takes a similar approach to her work as she does to her activism, overpreparing so she can be ready for anything when the cameras start rolling. She tries to familiarize herself as much as possible with the details of the lives of the characters she inhabits.

“When Michelle is on screen, I don’t know what it is exactly, but she transmutes herself,” says Kenneth Lonergan, the writer and director of “Manchester by the Sea.” “You’ve written this part and then a performer of great sensitivity like Michelle comes and embodies it. It’s so surprising and, frankly, gratifying.”

On “Showing Up,” she shadowed Cynthia Lahti, the Portland artist whose ceramic sculptures influenced the work that Lizzie produces in the film. For “The Fabelmans,” she asked Spielberg’s team to load up an iPad of the family’s home movies, photos and recordings and listened to them religiously to get a better sense of his mother’s voice and bearing.

In the case of “Blue Valentine,” the 2010 drama that earned her the second of four Oscar nominations, Williams and co-star Ryan Gosling spent a month playing house to create a backstory they could access when they needed to dramatize the dissolution of their characters’ marriage. One day they would pretend it was Christmas morning, spending time setting up a tree and wrapping presents. Another day would be consumed with errands, running to the grocery store or doing dishes.

“I don’t know many actors who’d commit themselves so thoroughly to what they’re doing,” says Derek Cianfrance, the film’s writer and director. “Michelle created an entire life. She became the co-writer of her character.”

Even “Venom,” a rare foray into big-budget entertainment that finds Williams as the title character’s estranged girlfriend, presented challenges. Sequel “Venom: Let There Be Carnage,” for instance, includes a scene where she is possessed by an alien symbiote. “Pretending that a monster is getting into your body and then taking over and leaving your body, that’s hard,” she says. “I want to keep growing, and ‘Venom’ is an important step in my growth.”

Friends and colleagues describe Williams as an autodidact. She’s always recommending books of poetry or music and she has an insatiable desire to learn. It comes, she suggests, from the fact that she lacks a formal education. Williams never graduated from high school. She got her high school diploma from a correspondence school at 15 and became emancipated from her parents to get more roles in television and movies; the logic was it would make her more attractive to casting agents if they knew she wouldn’t need on-set tutoring and could work longer hours. But it left her feeling inadequate.

“I’m a dumb-dumb,” she says at one point, despite abundant evidence to the contrary. Perhaps it’s a desire to overcompensate, but Williams is a relentless student when it comes to her chosen profession. She works with movement and dialect coaches, reads about the craft and audits acting classes. On the day of her interview with Variety, she’s bracing herself to take the red-eye to London where she’s going to see a performance of “Five Characters in Search of a Good Night’s Sleep,” which is directed by Mike Alfreds, one of her teachers.

“There’s so many holes in my education,” Williams says. “I just feel like I have so much ground to make up.”

But she’s also had a difficult education about the dangers of the media — first from the paparazzi frenzy that greeted her relationship with Ledger and later from the tabloid throngs that descended when he died of an accidental prescription drug overdose in 2008. The couple had split at the time. Williams saw another, more recent example of the sting that the media can deliver and it’s left her on guard.

A week after that first interview, Williams calls back. She’s worried that when she talked about acting, she came across as too self-serious. She’s aware of what happened to her friend Jeremy Strong when he talked about his intense process in a December profile in the New Yorker. That piece was brutal in its depiction of the “Succession” star as overly intense, pretentious and so committed to his Method approach that he once asked to be tear-gassed for a scene in “Trial of the Chicago 7.” Among other transgressions, it faulted Strong for once bankrupting the Yale theater club in order to throw a party for Al Pacino, an idol when he was a student.

Its portrait, Williams says, is far removed from the Strong she knows and loves, a person she first met while acting at the 2004 Williamstown Theatre Festival. After Ledger died, Strong moved into Williams’ home, along with her sister and another friend. There, he would spend hours letting Williams and Ledger’s daughter Matilda ride on his back, pretending that he was a pony.

“Jeremy was serious enough to hold the weight of a child’s broken heart and sensitive enough to understand how to approach her through play and games and silliness,” Williams says, adding, “[Matilda] didn’t grow up with her father, but she grew up with her Jeremy and we were changed by his ability to play as though his life depended upon it, because hers did.”

The blowback that Strong received after the New Yorker article was hard to witness, Williams says, and the piece was even more difficult to read.

“We’ve all been in awe of his talent,” says Williams. “We’ve watched him work harder than anyone and wait a long time for other people to recognize it. So when he became so celebrated, we all celebrated.”

It was Todd Haynes who first recommended Williams to Reichardt when Reichardt was trying to get “Wendy and Lucy” off the ground. Williams, in turn, had seen “Old Joy,” Reichardt’s previous film and had written her a fan letter, telling her that she’d love to work with her at some point. The timing was right: in the wake of Williams’ Oscar nomination for “Brokeback Mountain,” a film that had so elevated her status in Hollywood that Williams felt she needed to choose the path she wanted to take artistically.

“It was 15 years ago,” Williams recalls. “I was 25. My life was different. My career was different. I didn’t have a ton of movies behind me. And this opportunity came about, and it just felt like it was the essence of the kind of work I wanted to make.”

“Wendy and Lucy” was put together on a shoestring budget of just a couple of hundred thousand dollars, much of it borrowed from friends. The production crew pooled their frequent-flier miles to bring Williams, her young daughter and nanny out to Portland, and they found a place for the actress and her family to stay — the guesthouse of a wealthy industrialist who also happened to be the family friend of one of the producers. Williams wore her own sweater in the movie, and filming was such a low-budget affair that Reichardt didn’t even have a monitor on the set. But something just clicked.

“Acting to me is very mysterious,” Reichardt says. “But there we were on the first day of shooting and in the first set-up in a grocery store, and I gave her this little note. And Michelle just recalibrated her performance perfectly. She comes to the filmmaking.”

Williams and Reichardt reunite every few years for another slice-of-life drama, but most of their relationship is rooted on film sets. When they aren’t working on a movie, they don’t call each other frequently. Williams lives in New York, Reichardt spends much of her time in Oregon or at Bard College in Annandale-on-Hudson, more than two hours north of New York City.

“Our paths don’t really cross in day-to-day life,” says Williams. “But whenever she asks me to do something, the answer is always yes.”

In its examination of the art of making art, “Showing Up” feels like one of the most self-reflective of Reichardt’s films. It follows Lizzie, who works part time as an administrative assistant at an art school as she attempts to prepare for a gallery opening. She finds herself increasingly distracted as she tries to concentrate on finishing her sculptures. These interruptions range from the mundane (a broken water heater leaves her in need of a hot shower) to the serious (her mentally ill brother is deteriorating) to the outlandish (Lizzie’s cat mauls a pigeon, who she now is tasked with nursing back to health). It’s the kind of push and pull you sense Reichardt and Williams have felt over the course of their careers.

“My interest was in showing the process of making work — work that might not even get seen, but work that someone has this desire or need or compulsion to create,” says Reichardt. “And it’s about the different things that conspire to prevent you from sitting down and actually working.”

On “Showing Up,” that process of creation could be contentious, at times. Both women say they appreciate that their relationship has grown to the point that they don’t need to tiptoe around each other or bother with niceties.

“Kelly and I fight,” says Williams. “That’s not something that I do with anybody else that I work with. But we love each other enough to do that. We’re in a marriage, and in a long relationship you’re going to have differences of opinion.”

But Williams won’t say what they clashed over on “Showing Up.” That, she insists, is private.

“I can’t tell you that,” she demurs, before pausing a moment. “But I can tell you this — I was right.”
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No actor working today has evoked the tragedy and pathos of the leading lady — and brought those qualities to her art — as deeply as Williams. Now she’s figuring out how to fuel that same creativity from a very different place.

By Susan Dominus

IF MICHELLE WILLIAMS had been cast to play you in a movie, she’d do all the things you’d think she’d do: She’d watch you in videos and interview your family members. But she might also meditate on a piece of jewelry you liked. She might request a set of teeth to shape her mouth like yours. She might decide those teeth were not good enough and ask for a better, more natural set. She might invent a back story about your grandmother or send the director photos of hairstyles that you wore — or that she thinks the version of you that she’s playing, who is not actually you, would have worn. She’s not an impersonator; she’s an actor. She takes the character in the script, gathers scraps of relevant evidence, imagines the rest and then imbues it with whatever parts of herself will meld. She works hard, but the part that’s all empathy, which spills out of her and fills up her performances, comes naturally.

Steven Spielberg recently cast Williams to play his mother, or the role closely modeled on his mother, in his new film, “The Fabelmans,” out next month. The movie tells the story of the American director’s own unusual family upbringing. A concert pianist, a restaurateur, a pet monkey adopter, his mother, Leah Adler, was a charismatic partner in play for her son, someone who nurtured him creatively and loved him fiercely. At times, the filming was difficult: Spielberg, 75, has lost both his mother and his father in the past six years. Seeing his own childhood brought to life in such vivid detail sometimes left him flooded with emotion. In one of those moments, Spielberg says, he found solace in the woman who remained enough in character, even off camera, to comfort him in just the way he needed to be comforted. “Michelle knew how to hug me,” he says, “the way my mom used to.”

WILLIAMS, WHO IS 5-foot-4, keeps her container small: She doesn’t go for big heels or hair. Her cut is short and close to her head; she prefers ballet flats, her feet as near to the ground as possible. Right now, she is expecting a baby, due this fall, her third child, and her second with her husband, Thomas Kail, who is best known for directing “Hamilton” (2015). But Williams appears serene when she turns up in June at a cafe of her choosing in Brooklyn, a place near her home that’s ordinary enough to be almost empty. In jeans and a crisp white maternity shirt, she seems not just content but in a state of surprise at the pleasures that the past three years have brought her: marriage, a second child, a third pregnancy, low-key joy over family dinner. “It’s like I’ve walked a path that was rocky, and I didn’t know where it was going,” she says. “And it led to a meadow. And here I am in the meadow.”

Even the most casual observers of popular culture might forever associate Williams, 42, with a kind of tragic embodiment of grief, in life and in art. Williams lost Heath Ledger, the legendary actor who was the father of her daughter, Matilda, when she was 27 and he was 28; in “Manchester by the Sea” (2016), released eight years later, a scene of her as a bereft mother, tearfully trying to assuage her ex-husband’s pain, is surely the most indelible of the film. Williams offers audiences portrayals that seem to encompass the agony the public associates with her youth, while also transcending it, making of it something original in each iteration. For much of her career, her characters have suffered in ordinary lives, often because of a longing that threatens to undo them: the charmless, unvarnished Wendy, of “Wendy and Lucy” (2008), a lost soul determined to make her way to Alaska; a bright woman in “Blue Valentine” (2010) who mistakes deep romance for the makings of a marriage; a young wife in “Take This Waltz” (2011) who pursues sexual desire with the wobbling propulsion of a child intent on learning to walk. Such performances make her a rare kind of leading lady, a character actor whose visual appeal is just another tool in her possession. By the time she played Marilyn Monroe in “My Week With Marilyn” (2011), Williams had earned the right to inhabit a mythic figure whose fragility was partly what made her so much larger than life. Eight years later, she won her first Emmy and her second Golden Globe Award for her crackling, complicated portrayal of the 20th-century Broadway star Gwen Verdon, the collaborator and wife of the brilliant but philandering choreographer Bob Fosse, in the FX mini-series “Fosse/Verdon” (2019). Verdon demanded much of herself and of others, in her relationships, in her work, and Williams captured that hunger, along with the vulnerability that so much wanting lays bare. With the part of Mitzi Fabelman, Williams seems to be building on that energy, with a brave, at times gutting portrayal of a loving, conflicted mother who brings more drama into her family’s life than is easy for them to bear.

Spielberg says he first noticed Williams, who had a starring role on the television series “Dawson’s Creek,” when he watched the show with his kids in the late ’90s. He has followed her closely ever since: “There’s not a lying bone in her body of work,” says the director, who started thinking of her seriously for the role of Mitzi while working on the screenplay with its co-writer, the playwright Tony Kushner. To be asked to play the creative force behind one of the most important creative forces in modern cinema can only be considered a professional landmark — an anointing, even. (“I know,” says Williams, nodding her head, practically slap-happy with wonder. “I know. I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.”) At first, when they spoke about the project, she didn’t quite grasp what Spielberg was offering her. “When I realized what he was asking, it took me so long to get my head around what was happening,” she says. “And then afterward, I just laughed for a day, and then cried for a day. It was a lot to hold.”

AFTER “FOSSE/VERDON,” it wasn’t obvious to Williams how, exactly, her career would continue to grow. Many actresses start to despair of the scripts being sent to them once they hit 40. But more than that, she wondered, now that she was content, what the engine of her creativity would be; much of what drove her for so many years was one kind of longing or another.

Some people start acting because they want to be big, to see themselves onscreen; Williams wanted to be a small part of something bigger than she was — that throng of people having fun, up there, onstage or even backstage. She started out as a girl in a car pool: Williams and some other kids from San Diego making the two-hour drive to Los Angeles for auditions, leaving school early to get there. Small parts suitable for a lively girl next door came her way — a role in the family film “Lassie” (1994), a bit part on “Baywatch” the year before — but were few and far between. Then, when she was 15, she did what she says was common among the child actor crowd, for purely professional reasons: She became an emancipated minor, which afforded her an early, unnatural independence. She was living on her own in Los Angeles before she was 16. “You could work the hours of an adult,” she says. “You [didn’t have to have] a social worker or a teacher with you, which makes you more cost-effective as a hire.” A hint of darkness creeps into her voice as she continues: “So I didn’t have to have anybody looking out for me.” Her father — a trader who dabbled in ********** politics — was conservative in many ways, but her parents didn’t discourage her from leaving school or moving out.

When she was cast in “Dawson’s Creek” at 16, she was sleeping on a two-inch-thick egg crate mattress; breakfast was pizza with orange juice, dinner was pizza without. “It felt like somebody was withholding all the secrets,” she told GQ in 2012 — “how to take care of yourself and where to get the things that would help you take care of yourself.” When she talks about that early phase of her professional life, she sounds like someone who thinks a lot about what could have been a near-catastrophic car crash: The car swerved just in time, but she still feels the chill of how close a call it was. “The place where I started, at the bottom, is where the people are who give this business a bad reputation,” she says.

If the life of a young actor didn’t serve her, the work itself did. “I was totally amorphous and penetrable,” she says. “So to begin with, pretending to be other people gave me at least somebody to be.” With the encouragement of Mary Beth Peil, the opera soprano and Broadway actor who played the grandmother on “Dawson’s Creek,” Williams started driving to New York from Wilmington, N.C., where the series was filmed, seeking out bookstores, independent cinemas and theater companies, eventually auditioning for stage roles. While she was still acting in her television teen drama, she was also, during its filming hiatus, performing in Tracy Letts’s dark Off Broadway hit “Killer Joe” (1993). Within a year of the “Dawson’s” finale, she played Varya in a 2004 Williamstown Theatre Festival production of Anton Chekhov’s “The Cherry Orchard” (1904) that Tony Kushner still recalls with some awe. “I had one of those moments where you just can’t believe what you’re seeing,” he says. “What I love about Michelle is that there’s not a moment’s concern about how she is going to come across — is she going to be lovable enough? All she cares about is trying to get into the skin, and under the skin, of this character, as much as she possibly could.”

With “Brokeback Mountain” (2005), in which she played the wife of a man in love with another man, came a new level of fame: awards shows, celebrity, paparazzi. Her relationship with Ledger, one of the film’s leads, also brought her Matilda (now 16), though she was separated from Ledger by the time he died of an accidental prescription drug overdose in 2008. Already feeling vulnerable as a single mother, she became an object of morbid fascination in the tabloids, fleeing Brooklyn for “the country” — even now, she instinctively avoids identifying the location, as if still protecting the privacy she had to fight for back then. After that, the drive to act came from a different place: an overwhelming sense of responsibility. “I only related to my work for a very long time as our only means of survival,” she says. “Work was how I made money, and money was how I could propel my own family out into the world.” Work was hard — she had to keep getting better to keep getting work, but to keep getting better, she believed, she had to keep taking harder roles, which meant learning, but also sometimes risking humiliation in front of other people.

She committed, for example, to working with the director Kelly Reichardt, who had directed her in “Wendy and Lucy,” in “Meek’s Cutoff” (2010), an indie film about pioneers trying to survive crossing the Oregon desert in 1845. She, along with the rest of the crew, spent a week in the blazing heat learning how to light a fire without matches, and how to put up tents of that era, so that it would look rote. Beyond that, says Reichardt, it was a film with so many long shots that called for a particular skill in acting; Williams’s face was covered with a bonnet for parts of the movie, so that her body — the stance of her shoulders, her gait — had to do much of the work of communicating her character. That kind of total conversion of the self is something at which she excels, says Kenneth Lonergan, who directed her in “Manchester by the Sea.” He considers one of the most exquisite moments of that film to be a gesture that he only noticed in the cutting room: Williams’s character, years after her own tragedy, attending a funeral, nervously brushing a lock of her coifed hair into place — a woman almost anxious to appear composed. “There was something about it that just said everything about what she’s become since the tragedy, and what she’s trying to do,” he says of the character, as portrayed by Williams. “It breaks me up every time I see it.”

The physicality with which Williams inhabits a character is perhaps her greatest talent; it seems at times as if all her molecules have fallen apart and been reassembled to create a slightly different version of herself, the material attributes the same but the essence transformed. This quality, says Lonergan, is what puts Williams in the company of actors like Robert De Niro, someone whose very handshake is invented anew with every character he plays. She sheds her beauty as if it were a useless skin in “Wendy and Lucy” but owns and somehow amplifies it in “My Week With Marilyn.” To watch her body of work is to understand that so much of how the world decides who we are depends upon how we hold ourselves. And yet consistent throughout is something intrinsic to Williams herself, some outward manifestation, perhaps, of what an especially vulnerable young adulthood can do to someone who, despite the artifice of growing up on camera, fought hard to hold fast to her natural, searching curiosity.

THE PHENOMENON OF Williams’s embodiment is never more remarkable than in “Fosse/Verdon” (five episodes of which were directed by Kail). It’s one thing to learn a dance, or even how to dance, and Williams, who also starred as Sally Bowles in “Cabaret” on Broadway in 2014, has taken many lessons; it’s another to try to manifest, in your every moment onscreen, the spirit of one of the greatest dancers and performers of her time, the self-conscious artfulness of a true show-woman. “She really got to a whole other place with it, down to her fingers,” says Reichardt. After Williams runs her hand over her face following one teary breakup scene, her hand trails away with a slight, expressive waving of those fingers. In most characters, the movement would be overly stylized, but for Williams’s Verdon, the gesture is a natural channeling of feeling outward through her body.

Williams says the biggest challenge of playing the part was in accessing the energy of Verdon, the kind of charismatic performer who could be ruthlessly seductive, almost insatiable in her desire for recognition but also in her pursuit of originality. “I realized I was going to have to make myself a bigger person to play her,” Williams tells me at the coffee shop; even as she says this, she is unrecognizable as a movie star, a quietly stylish pregnant woman drinking a decaffeinated cappuccino. “Because that is not my aura. I was going to have to expand my magnetic field to encompass this great woman. How great for me, Michelle, that I got to work on those kinds of less prominent aspects of myself. It was good for me.”

On the first day of filming in 2018, a set dresser came up to Williams and mentioned to her that she was wearing only one earring and would have to take it off — otherwise, it would look strange on camera. Williams thought for a moment. In the scene, she was rushing away from a beach house after a painful breakup with Fosse. Maybe it would be perfect for her to be missing an earring, she suggested — the dialogue even had her saying, “Let’s see, what am I forgetting?” When the dresser pushed back, Williams decided to bring her idea up with Kail, the director of that episode, whom she barely knew at the time. “I was like, ‘What’s his name, Tom? Tommy?’” she says, recalling the moment she approached him: “I really want to do this thing. I was told there’s a problem with continuity, but I think it’s kind of perfect.” He responded with two words: “Yeah — great.” From that moment, she realized, as she puts it, “Oh, OK, I can bring things here.” She had ideas — ideas like wanting that set of teeth, to shape her face more like Verdon’s; wanting more dance lessons, more voice lessons. “And when you have that kind of permissiveness, it opens up the whole world inside of you,” she says. “Because you don’t stop anything. And that was our experience for six months. We started on that day — we just sort of kept going with each other and then, all of a sudden, you can wind up in places you wouldn’t have expected.”

In June 2018, Williams told Vanity Fair that, after many years of looking for the radical acceptance she’d felt from Ledger, she was “finally loved by someone who makes me feel free.” She was about to marry the songwriter and singer Phil Elverum, and she was sharing the news of her happiness, she told the reporter, in the hope that she might help other women who were like her, in the club of single mothers, to keep the faith.

Her marriage to Elverum proved short-lived. “I made a mistake,” she says. “It’s embarrassing to have lived some mistakes in public — in my personal life and my professional life — but I’m proud of my desire to keep going.” Ultimately, she found what she was looking for in Kail: the openness, the joie de vivre, the spirit of expansiveness she discovered on set. By December 2019, six months after the show aired, she and Kail were engaged, and she was pregnant with their son, Hart.

“I spent my entire life thinking, ‘When will you know you’re in love?’” she says. “ ‘What is it? How do you know? How do you know into whose hands you should put your life? And your children? And your children’s lives? Who do you trust with that, and how do you know and when will you know?’ I have made decisions using my heart, and I made decisions using my head. None of those seemed to work for me. Then I started thinking, ‘Maybe I’ll make decisions based on signs from the universe. Maybe I’ll interpret things — signs — falling from the sky.’ That didn’t work out for me. Then I realized: It was experiences. For me, it was having experience with this person and knowing how they would respond in all different situations. On a Monday morning; on a Wednesday afternoon; on a Friday night. Trusting the depth of that experience to make a decision about a life and going forward in a life together.”

There, in the coffee shop, she was spontaneously delivering a reverie, a monologue: sweet, building, moving. As she spoke, I had the sense that I was sitting across from an actor who could also have been a writer. “It’s too late for that,” she says. “I never went to high school. I don’t know any punctuation.”

Often actors known for well-chosen roles with artistic integrity lead with an evident intensity or intelligence; Williams’s characters, by contrast, often present humbly, as she herself does, belying a reserve of power that’s there all along. Even if Williams confesses to a lingering sense of insecurity, she nevertheless spoke up, strongly, when news broke in 2018 that she had been vastly underpaid for the reshooting of scenes for the film “All the Money in the World” (2017), compared to her co-star Mark Wahlberg. She talked to the press about sexism in pay disparities in Hollywood but also beyond the film industry; she spoke at the Capitol Building on Equal Pay Day at a news conference; and when she won an Emmy for her performance in “Fosse/Verdon,” she returned to the subject in her acceptance speech. “The basic impulse for any kind of genuinely progressive politics is generosity,” says Kushner. “It has to be outward expanding and outward reaching. And she has that in her art, and in her mind.”

WE AGREED, AT the coffee shop, to meet the next day at a bookstore in Brooklyn. Both of us were late; one of us — Williams — was clearly relaxed nonetheless, even though she had lost her cellphone in a Lyft earlier that day. She wore a loose white dress with embroidery at its neck, looking cool and unbothered by the suffocating heat of another of the summer’s endlessly steaming days. She was enjoying the freedom of a temporarily phoneless existence, rather than fighting to fix it.

Instead of browsing through novels as planned, we headed straight to the cafe for peach kombucha and some more talk about the meadow: “I really hope I get to stay in the meadow,” she told me. “I really want to stay in the meadow.”

Williams’s professional life did not start with her relationship with Ledger, any more than it stopped with his death. But his death marked the beginning of a new phase of adulthood, as unexpected as it was painful and prolonged. “When I meet people now who are grieving, the one thing I would say is, ‘It’s a decade. It’s not a bad month or a year or two. It’s a decade,’” she says. “So give yourself time.” During that period, when she lived in the country, teachers at her daughter’s Montessori school took her and Matilda into their homes, supporting her but helping her grow, too; helping her learn how to grow things — how to raise a garden, to cook, to feed her child. For someone who had taken on the mantle of adulthood before she could really wear it, feeding her family, she says, still strikes her as a remarkable achievement. “It’s when the combination of the foods is right, and each of the three foods is perfect in its own right, you have a synthesis, and then you have balance,” she said. If she could have any superpower, she told me, it would be to spontaneously throw a meal down for 20 people at a time — to be able, with ease, to entertain a group, to be the place where that group wanted to go. Her husband is the same way: “He always says if he hadn’t been a director, he’d be a camp counselor.”

Our conversation made us hungry for cookbooks, and we wandered among them, comparing notes on home-meal triumphs, puzzling over why we cared so much, trying to decide whether there was something beautiful or reactionary about this love of feeding our families. But Williams’s mind was also working through our previous conversation at the cafe. “It’s such a relief not to be in that kind of grief anymore,” she said. She looks back on her wedding, in March 2020, a day when she could see how happy Matilda was, how connected she was to Kail, as a moment that was “free of the shadow side.”

Finally, it was time to head back to her children and her husband. On the walk there, Williams talked some more about suffering, which she seems to understand more fully in her current state of happiness — how it could bind humanity, even be an exquisite vehicle for connection. It was not permanent, she knew — her own life was evidence of that — but it was not adjacent to the path of life, either. She had committed to memory a line quoted by the author Rebecca Solnit in one of her books of essays: “Emptiness is the track on which the centered person moves,” itself a quote from a 14th-century Tibetan sage. “Life is suffering,” Williams said emphatically. A middle-aged woman who was walking by made eye-contact with Williams and nodded knowingly, as if to say, “You can say that again.” A few minutes later, Williams repeated some variation on the sentiment, and laughed to see a Chihuahua on a leash, stopped in its tracks and looking up at her with its sad, sweet empathetic face, so that it, too, seemed intent on acknowledging that truth.

We parted ways, and then Williams kept going, her mind on dinner, her step light, on her path home.

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Then, when she was 15, she did what she says was common among the child actor crowd, for purely professional reasons: She became an emancipated minor, which afforded her an early, unnatural independence. She was living on her own in Los Angeles before she was 16. “You could work the hours of an adult,” she says. “You [didn’t have to have] a social worker or a teacher with you, which makes you more cost-effective as a hire.” A hint of darkness creeps into her voice as she continues: “So I didn’t have to have anybody looking out for me.” Her father — a trader who dabbled in ********** politics — was conservative in many ways, but her parents didn’t discourage her from leaving school or moving out.

When she was cast in “Dawson’s Creek” at 16, she was sleeping on a two-inch-thick egg crate mattress; breakfast was pizza with orange juice, dinner was pizza without. “It felt like somebody was withholding all the secrets,” she told GQ in 2012 — “how to take care of yourself and where to get the things that would help you take care of yourself.” When she talks about that early phase of her professional life, she sounds like someone who thinks a lot about what could have been a near-catastrophic car crash: The car swerved just in time, but she still feels the chill of how close a call it was. “The place where I started, at the bottom, is where the people are who give this business a bad reputation,” she says.

I'm very tired of hearing about celebrities who talk as though they had some kind of tough upbringing. I met her father at a gathering at his private gated ginormous mansion a number of years back when she was on Dawson's Creek. Her father was/is E X T R E M E L Y wealthy. Her whining "I didn't have anybody looking out for me", is, uh, bullish*t. So she made it big in acting. Good for her. I'm convinced daddy pulled some strings for her and helped her dreams become reality. The least she can do is acknowledge that instead of the "golly me, I slept on an egg crate mattress and had to eat pizza every day for years" crap. She had a lot of financial backup if her career didn't work out. If she really did live like she claims, or if she lived in a normal apartment, or even a penthouse, rest assured daddy had paid protection for her.
 
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