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I love the True Blood series. Only one problem...I skipped one of the books (the one with the Witch War) and now am reading the book that takes place in New Orleans (that deals with Hadley)....I know I have to go back and read the other one, but it wasn't in stock and I had to special order. I was too impatient to wait and went on to the next one! I am going to go back to the other book when I finish with this one. Almost done. I am psycho about True Blood. I really hope that this next book is not the last one. That would be really sad.

I have Direct TV and don't have on demand. For all of you that have on demand, which satellite service do you have? I really would love on demand.

Anybody excited about Nip/Tuck starting next week? I love that show, too. I have been waiting a long time for that to start up again.
 
^ I have timewarner which also provides my internet.... I don't think direct tv has an option for on demand. :(

If you'd like, you can borrow the witch war book from me. :) it's kind of weird though... the whole background of the hadley story didn't happen in the war book. I'm still confused as to where it stemmed from. I didn't even know Sookie had a cousin until that book(six, right?).

I read somewhere that CS wasn't planning on working on any more Sookie books for a while, but instead was going to work on another of her series that is in progress. But with the popularity of the series, she's finishing up the 9th and hopefully will do more. I'd be really sad if it was the last book as well....
 
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lmao... bad good men are the best!! their barks are always louder than their bite.

Ha often true!
Mine doesn't bark at all, which is why I think no one ever challenges him ever, except me of course. In herding a dog who barks a lot is considered to be insecure and trying to over compensate, the livestock will often challenge these dogs and try to stomp them. Truman my dog doesn't bark at livestock, he's a lot like my so.
 
How weird. I thought that the whole Hadley story stemmed from the previous book. I kept thinking I would go back and get filled in. Oh, well. It doesn't matter. It still all makes sense. I guess I am farther along than I realized. I *think* I have the previous book. I am pretty sure I special ordered it and picked it up. I have so many of them on my nightstand, they are starting the mesh into a big pile. I have to put away the books I have already read. The book I am reading now is Definitely Dead. I love how you can't wait to find out what happens next. My daughter thinks I am obsessed with True Blood and she just rolls her eyes at me, but I got her hooked on the TV show and now she is asking for my books!
 
Gooddog, I was interested in what you had to say about Cesar Milan and his techniques. I have always liked his show, but I am too much of a wimp to subject my spoiled dog to him. It would probably be a good idea, though. The funny thing is that Cesar lives right up the street from me! I am tempted to drop my dog on his doorstep with a note saying, "Please fix him and return to me in 1 week!"
 
Ha often true!
Mine doesn't bark at all, which is why I think no one ever challenges him ever, except me of course. In herding a dog who barks a lot is considered to be insecure and trying to over compensate, the livestock will often challenge these dogs and try to stomp them. Truman my dog doesn't bark at livestock, he's a lot like my so.
I guess we should clarify then... QUIET bad good men are best. :p Less for me to pay attention to, thank goodness.
 
How weird. I thought that the whole Hadley story stemmed from the previous book. I kept thinking I would go back and get filled in. Oh, well. It doesn't matter. It still all makes sense. I guess I am farther along than I realized. I *think* I have the previous book. I am pretty sure I special ordered it and picked it up. I have so many of them on my nightstand, they are starting the mesh into a big pile. I have to put away the books I have already read. The book I am reading now is Definitely Dead. I love how you can't wait to find out what happens next. My daughter thinks I am obsessed with True Blood and she just rolls her eyes at me, but I got her hooked on the TV show and now she is asking for my books!
Same here... i get all the titles mixed up myself. You finished the one where Eric loses his memory then? That's my favorite.... just let me know if you need the war book. We're both in LA so I can get it to you in a jiffy. I also have the 7th and 8th if you need it. :) now I sound like a book pusher instead of a drug pusher... gotta work on that.
 
Same here... i get all the titles mixed up myself. You finished the one where Eric loses his memory then? That's my favorite.... just let me know if you need the war book. We're both in LA so I can get it to you in a jiffy. I also have the 7th and 8th if you need it. :) now I sound like a book pusher instead of a drug pusher... gotta work on that.

No, I did not read the one where Eric loses his memory. That should be the book with the Witch War. In the book I am reading, it keeps referring to Eric having stayed with Sookie and losing his memory. He has it back now, but he did not remember what happened and she had to tell him. OMG...I know I am sounding psycho! As if these are real people. I kind of wish they were! I really want to read the previous book, because I know the Eric/Sookie thing is a big deal.
 
Gooddog, I was interested in what you had to say about Cesar Milan and his techniques. I have always liked his show, but I am too much of a wimp to subject my spoiled dog to him. It would probably be a good idea, though. The funny thing is that Cesar lives right up the street from me! I am tempted to drop my dog on his doorstep with a note saying, "Please fix him and return to me in 1 week!"

Oh dont:sad: that would make me really sad.

Oh god here goes and I promise to never say another word about this topic. You may want to skip this post and keep in mind I understand that this is just my opinion.







He's very charming, he's totally likeable. The show is succesful because he is a star theres no doubt about that.
I think he gives some really solid practical ideas and problems solving.
But theres so much that goes on off camera. They used to show more of his real work in the early shows. The reason the dogs respond to his subtle movements is because they have learned to be very very aware of his movements for a reason. But you can get that some response(your dog responding to your cues) without it coming from a bad place. Its just that sometimes it takes a little longer and you have to be a little more talented, to train with your brain and not with pain. I cannot count the number of clients I have had come into classes using his techniques on their completely out of control dogs and they dont understand why shoving their fingers into their dogs neck is making their dog stop barking for the moment but is also making their dog afraid of their hands and that their dog always starts barking again the behavior only stops for a moment or they are constantly sissing at them for everything and the dog is totally ignoring them.
I'm sure he's very nice but what we know about working with animals has evolved so much in the last years and these outdated techniques just need to go away to the dark ages from whence they came. I absolutely do not think he is a super violent trainer, but he does use a lot of positive punishment(inflicting force, pain or fear) that is well documented. Its just not described to the audience as such. But the biggest crime is that people see magically edited snippets and therefore dont understand what they are really supposed to be doing with their dogs.

Working with animal learning/behavior has just really been under studied for so long, in part because a lot of people enjoy being able to force their will onto something weaker then them.
I have had to hold dogs as they die. Dogs who fought me hard for their lives, lives that they lost the right to live because they had crossed the line and were no longer safe. Sometimes the dog is just not right for this world but sometimes its a dog who bit because they were pinned to the ground too many times or strangled, pushed over threshold by misguided often well meaning people who watched silly tv shows.
I am all about structure, rules and having total control over what dogs get to do and having them be polite and well behaved. I just dont need to use pain or fear to get it. I am not a briber or a cookie trick trainer. I will try anything to save a dogs life but I start with the least harmful methods possible.
I also understand what those bias of training are about. I compete in dog shows in obedience and agility and most of the obedience people are punishment trainers or they do a kooky mix of pain and food. I know they love their dogs and that most of them are just doing what they have learned and they are very resistant to any other methods.
I know that I have learned great things from trainers that work all over the training map and I try to have an open mind. For me this issue is that the public is learning half truths and sloppy bad dog training. The good news about shows like that is the public is learning about dog training and exercising their dogs and trying to make difference.
 
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Thanks for the info, gooddog. I am totally in agreement with you, not because I am knowledgeable about dog training, but I am totally against inflicting pain on an animal. I would never resort to those training methods (and I was totally joking about leaving my spoiled baby on his doorstep!) I would never let him get near my dog, because I know I would have a fit if anyone even raised their voice at him. I have watched the show and was not comfortable with a lot of what I saw, but I was not sure about what others thought of his methods.
 
And I am being as bit of a fanatic eck yuck. My apologies to all, :p
Really I'm much more well rounded than I sound.


Thanks for the info, gooddog. I am totally in agreement with you, not because I am knowledgeable about dog training, but I am totally against inflicting pain on an animal. I would never resort to those training methods (and I was totally joking about leaving my spoiled baby on his doorstep!) I would never let him get near my dog, because I know I would have a fit if anyone even raised their voice at him. I have watched the show and was not comfortable with a lot of what I saw, but I was not sure about what others thought of his methods.
 
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