Maintaining an H relationship

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Nope. Totally serious. Stewing in my own juice waiting for this bag so thinking of hypothetical scenarios of why just to pass time while waiting
In that case then I will say 5 months is reasonable wait, I suspect it may take up to a year or even longer. I'm pretty sure they have a gold birkin every month if not one or two. But you have to wait till YOUR sa gets their hands on it first. And then you have to be top on HER list of clients that want that bag. So yea might be a little bit of a wait even though I think that bag combo is frequently in store.

Lets say your SA gets a gold birkin once every 3 months. But there's two people ahead of you. thats 9 months of waiting.
 
I just want to point out that not all stores allocate bags to SAs before SAs allocate to clients. Whenever my SA offers to me, they read me the full delivery list of that week in my desired size (so in my case all size 25 or smaller PHW bags) which has been anywhere from 6-20 bags in the past. Now, perhaps my SA is just assuming that they will be able to horse trade for the bag I pick with whichever SA has it allocated, but either way I would argue that the allocation isn’t an important point of consideration for me the client.
 
I just want to point out that not all stores allocate bags to SAs before SAs allocate to clients. Whenever my SA offers to me, they read me the full delivery list of that week in my desired size (so in my case all size 25 or smaller PHW bags) which has been anywhere from 6-20 bags in the past. Now, perhaps my SA is just assuming that they will be able to horse trade for the bag I pick with whichever SA has it allocated, but either way I would argue that the allocation isn’t an important point of consideration for me the client.
you must be a long term client or VIP. I know some VIP clients at my store have the same treatment, they know the full delivery list :)
 
I totally forgot that there are stores for which you can book online appointments now! Yes you can give that a try if your store is one of them. Not all stores have this service though I think, so if yours doesn’t, give the store a call, and ask for your SA. The SA may be off on the days you sent the text - either their weekly days off or on leave (maybe took some days off after what must have been the craziest time of their year during the holidays season, I have a non Hermes SA who is doing exactly that right now), or simply just too busy and didn’t get to your text - they get a lot, especially since again it sounds like this happened during the holidays season.

Other ideas to try: some SAs may respond better to emails compared to texts especially at the beginning of your relationship so you can also send an email; the email address should be on their card. Maybe also give them a reminder of what you purchased last time to help jostle their memory (very possible that they can’t remember a client who they’ve only seen once just due to the number of clients they see).

ETA: a few thousands I think is not a bad start (in USD I am assuming?) - obviously not for a coveted bag offer yet in general but a good place to keep working with the SA which it sounds like is what you are planning to do - so I’d give this a bit more time and patience before trying to find a new SA, especially if it sounds like your DH had a good time shopping with them. Good luck!
Momoc, thanks for your insights! The SA did tell my DH their preferred way of communication is through texts, which is why we’ve been texting. We called the store today to ask about the SA availability. Apparently our store is walk-ins only on weekends. The lady on the phone told us that the SA is in store today and passed a message that we plan to visit. So hopefully that will work out.

I havent met this SA so I’ll see how it goes today. We were just a bit bumped that she didn’t respond to our message asking her availability. I’ve read enough that it’s not uncommon and it was busy holiday seasons. But we want to establish a long term relationship and want to hear back from SA if we ask for things in the future. I just hope that they could be a bit more responsive :/
 
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It’s also possible that the SA is on vacation hence not responding. You can always call the store and ask them if they can make an appointment for you. This way they can tell you if the SA is away or not.

Another possibility is that the SA might have forgotten who you are because of the two weeks lag after the first purchase during a busy holiday season. Don’t take it personally! 😊

That said, since you just started, I think it’s fair to shop with different SAs before you commit. I would simply say “we’ve made a purchase with ___ before but we are open to be helped by others today”. They should see that short history with the previous SA on your profile anyway.

Have fun shopping!
Hi tadad, thanks for your advice. And super appreciate the tip on how to communicate with a different SA.

Like I responded in the previous message, we called the store today and was told the SA is in store today. But the store is walk-in only on weekends. We plan to visit the store to see if we can catch her. It’s my first meeting her so I’ll get a feel. Since we’ve already spend a few thousand dollars( which I know is not a huge huge amount), it’ll be nice if we can stick with this SA. We just wish she could be a bit more responsive so I don’t have to call the store or make online appointments every time we want to go shopping. :/
 
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Hi tadad, thanks for your advice. And super appreciate the tip on how to communicate with a different SA.

Like I responded in the previous message, we called the store today and was told the SA is in store today. But the store is walk-in only on weekends. We plan to visit the store to see if we can catch her. It’s my first meeting her so I’ll get a feel. Since we’ve already spend a few thousand dollars( which I know is not a huge huge amount), it’ll be nice if we can stick with this SA. We just wish she could be a bit more responsive so I don’t have to call the store or make online appointments every time we want to go shopping. :/
If they aren’t allowed to take appointments on the weekends then the SAs hand’s are tied and I wouldn’t take it personally nor hold it against her. Typically in the H world, silence can assumed to be “no”. Have fun shopping today!
 
Momoc, thanks for your insights! The SA did tell my DH their preferred way of communication is through texts, which is why we’ve been texting. We called the store today to ask about the SA availability. Apparently our store is walk-ins only on weekends. The lady on the phone told us that the SA is in store today and passed a message that we plan to visit. So hopefully that will work out.

I havent met this SA so I’ll see how it goes today. We were just a bit bumped that she didn’t respond to our message asking her availability. I’ve read enough that it’s not uncommon and it was busy holiday seasons. But we want to establish a long term relationship and want to hear back from SA if we ask for things in the future. I just hope that they could be a bit more responsive :/

I hope you enjoy the shopping trip! And please don’t take the responsiveness thing too hard, it is a very, very common and recurring theme in this thread. SAs are just swamped with texts and it’s really common to have not have them answered promptly. And sometimes if you ask for something specific, they tend to only respond if they have it / can get it for you; no response can be interpreted as “sorry we don’t have this”.
 
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I just want to point out that not all stores allocate bags to SAs before SAs allocate to clients. Whenever my SA offers to me, they read me the full delivery list of that week in my desired size (so in my case all size 25 or smaller PHW bags) which has been anywhere from 6-20 bags in the past. Now, perhaps my SA
OG VIP :heart:
 
I just want to point out that not all stores allocate bags to SAs before SAs allocate to clients. Whenever my SA offers to me, they read me the full delivery list of that week in my desired size (so in my case all size 25 or smaller PHW bags) which has been anywhere from 6-20 bags in the past. Now, perhaps my SA is just assuming that they will be able to horse trade for the bag I pick with whichever SA has it allocated, but either way I would argue that the allocation isn’t an important point of consideration for me the client.
I only get to see the shoes stock 😆
 
There are some of us here who are fortunate and get read the stock of bags at FSH from our SA's Hphones. It's been going on for quite a few years and I am glad, because my SAs do not have to keep going up and down 3 floors. I only request to view the bags which I am interested in and they bring a stack of boxes at once. This is likely the result of maintaining a strong relationship over time and not necessarily because of a crazy purchase history. They do still prefer to surprise with Blue Box and some special exotics though. So I assume bag allocation to specific SAs does not apply to FSH unless in a special category.
 
On bags allocation: I feel like this has been explained elsewhere but I know it’s hard to search and flip through the vast amount of threads here, so perhaps I can try to explain again how it likely works at my - and perhaps many other - stores, where the quota bag allocation is done by the SM for a specific client rather than an SA.

It goes like this: a bag comes in and is ready to be sold. SAs look at the bag and checks against their list of clients. They put in proposals for a client who they’d offer the bag to. The SM looks at the proposals and makes a decision on which client gets approved for the bag, with the decision driven by the client’s profile, and can include considerations for how strong is the spending, what categories does the client shop in (what’s the leather % of total, do they purchase things that are harder to move and therefore harder to hit targets for), how loyal they are to the store, how long has it been since their last bag offer…and so on (some SMs look at things in more details and some may not; it’s really up to them). Besides just the client profile itself though, they could also be swayed by other factors, from things such as the performance of the SA, how long it’s been since the SA got a super hot or super rare bag, etc., to literally maybe just how the SM feels like doing on that day (and if you believe gossip from social media…sometimes there’s also just good ole office politics going on, as they inevitably do at any workplace).

Fun(?) aside: at my store it’s actually forbidden for an SA to know which client “beat out” their client when the bag went to another person (in practice I think they can find out pretty easily when the client comes to pick up the bag lol but it’s the thought that counts I guess). I’m not sure at all if this is just what my SM wanted to do or more general. As one learns, with Hermes, the question to a lot of answers on “how does X work” is “it really depends”.

It used to be that this approval process was only required for quota bags, and maybe some super popular bags depending on supply and demand. The SM has discretion to decide what items need their approval or not, and can take things on and off that list based on what they see the market demand is. Which means again the answer is often “it really depends (on how your specific store is run)”. In recent years though, some markets such as China now reportedly require formerly “open” bags to all go through an SM approval.

FSH operates on its own system and is always an outlier. And I’m sure the countries that have a pure “wishlist” in Europe operates a somewhat different model.

P.S. for the case of what I described, if an SA officially offers a bag to a client and the client rejects the bag, it could mean that the bag does not then go to the next client on the same SA’s list; instead it would be the second client in line from the proposals, who is often from another SA. My SA likes to confirm my interest firmly before putting in a proposal. This means sometimes I hear about bags that are coming, with the caveat that they won’t all be my bags (sadly!). My SA lets me know when it’s a bag we are “trying” to get (I’m totally cool when it ends up not being approved for me and that sure happens!). Meanwhile, some other SAs prefer to not do it this way; instead they will get the full approval first before letting their client know. As far as I can tell, this just seems to be personal style and choice in how they like to work & maybe how they think their client will respond when they couldn’t get a bag approved.

Everyone involved are human beings! While the SAs and SMs have a job with a clear goal (sales), they are still just humans. So again, it often really depends.

To share some other fun datapoints I’ve had:
- I have had experiences where my SA sees a bag that is coming, confirms my interest and puts in the proposal & gets the approval, all before that bag arrives at the store. This was more than a week in advance (apologies I don’t remember exactly how long in each cases). If I were to guess, they can see what is on SM’s orders and work with that list, or maybe the bag was already on its way but the shipment took a very long time to arrive from Paris!
- I’ve been offered a couple different bags (of course can’t get all of them, again sadly!) and then selected one of them; the others were “on display” in my store by the time I went in to pick up said bag. So I think the SM (at least in some cases) has discretion on what bags go on display too. And given that they were on the table, this means these display bags are going to be eventually sold at my store (could even be already allocated to someone). This is of course not to say that all display items work the same way…in fact I’m sure they don’t, because again, it depends…

Sorry for the long post, but hopefully it’s of use to at least someone!
 
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Potentially off topic, can one wishlist a blue box item?
You can request any item you are interested in. Not all blue box items are of the same demand. Some are actually way more difficult to sell than classic bags so letting your SA know you are interested is always a good idea just in case one happens to arrive to the store.
 
Do stores/ SAs ever take 'lifetime spend' into account when making offers, or is only your yearly spend amount taken into consideration? Asking for QBs and non-QB bags. I've shopped at one store with one SA for years (except purchasing in Paris), and I only buy what I love. Purchase history is modestly diverse, having bought jewelry, costume jewelry, shoes, belts, scarves, homeware, and more.

Admittedly, I've never mentioned a wishlist to my SA purely because I believe I would never be considered due to my lower spend amount in comparison to other clients. Inventory at my store was also low for quite some time, so I never bothered...However, if anyone has had any positive experiences, I may have a discussion with my SA next time I drop by.

**I would also mention that I've never been offered a non-QB bag as well.
I have looked at the following posts
did you ever answer the question, 'Did you ever ask for a bag?'
don't expect your SA to be psychic
if you have never mentioned it, your SA has probably been relieved that you are not one if those clients who is just angling for a bag
 
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