Longchamp Le Pliage Cuir - your opinions

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Absolutely u can layer Blackrocks and Obenaufs. Remember that Blackrocks always goes first in applying.



LMB products are fab. Just remember that the product I recommend is Obenaufs Heavy Duty Leather Preserve. I tried the Obenaufs's Oil and didnt care for it.

Thanks!

I did it right...by accident! Haha.
I’ll order some Obenauf’s Heavy Duty Leather Preserve.

So can you keep flip-flopping the products?
Or I’ll have to just keep using the Obenauf from now on (since the first layer is the Blackrock—already applied on the corners).

How often do you recommend that we reapply on the corners?

I also spray the entire bag with a waterproof treatment. I hope that won’t hurt the leather—the layering of all these protectants.

I just love the Longchamp Cuir line!

Thank you, Seton!
You are always so generous and knowledgeable. We are fortunate to have you as part of our Longchamp world!

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Thanks!

I did it right...by accident! Haha.
I’ll order some Obenauf’s Heavy Duty Leather Preserve.

So can you keep flip-flopping the products?
Or I’ll have to just keep using the Obenauf from now on (since the first layer is the Blackrock—already applied on the corners).

How often do you recommend that we reapply on the corners?

I also spray the entire bag with a waterproof treatment. I hope that won’t hurt the leather—the layering of all these protectants.

I just love the Longchamp Cuir line!

Thank you, Seton!
You are always so generous and knowledgeable. We are fortunate to have you as part of our Longchamp world!

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OK, Disclaimer Time! I am NOT a leather expert so take my advice with a grain of salt.

1. BOTH Blackrock and Obenaufs are HEAVY products. If youre going to use both, you should only be conditioning maybe once a yr. If you want to condition more than that, than use a lighter product that is more lotion-like. You are actually in danger of damaging your bag by over-conditioning. You're make it oilier, changing and damaging the finish on the leather.

The ONLY reason why both products are popular on TPF is bc the most popular Leather Expert on TPF (Docride) used to recommend them all the time. Emphasis on USED TO. She does NOT anymore. I tried Blackrock s and did not like it. Obviously, I tried and love Obenaufs and still use it but I certainly dont use it on EVERYTHING. I use it for what it calls itself - Leather Preserve. I use it to help PRESERVE my bags that are already in good condition.

For a LPC, I dont use it all over. I just use it on the corners and maybe on the resin/edges if I feel it needs it. Then I wait til it starts looking stressed before I use it again. It helps revive up the leather.

2. As for using a protectant spray, it goes like this: clean and condition if you feel you have to, let the product dry, THEN spray.

I dont have any advice after you have sprayed your bag bc I dont believe in doing it again after you have used the bag. No matter how careful you are, there is probably some unseen dirt on that bag and you are then spraying the dirt on that bag. JMO.
 
OK, Disclaimer Time! I am NOT a leather expert so take my advice with a grain of salt.

1. BOTH Blackrock and Obenaufs are HEAVY products. If youre going to use both, you should only be conditioning maybe once a yr. If you want to condition more than that, than use a lighter product that is more lotion-like. You are actually in danger of damaging your bag by over-conditioning. You're make it oilier, changing and damaging the finish on the leather.

The ONLY reason why both products are popular on TPF is bc the most popular Leather Expert on TPF (Docride) used to recommend them all the time. Emphasis on USED TO. She does NOT anymore. I tried Blackrock s and did not like it. Obviously, I tried and love Obenaufs and still use it but I certainly dont use it on EVERYTHING. I use it for what it calls itself - Leather Preserve. I use it to help PRESERVE my bags that are already in good condition.

For a LPC, I dont use it all over. I just use it on the corners and maybe on the resin/edges if I feel it needs it. Then I wait til it starts looking stressed before I use it again. It helps revive up the leather.

2. As for using a protectant spray, it goes like this: clean and condition if you feel you have to, let the product dry, THEN spray.

I dont have any advice after you have sprayed your bag bc I dont believe in doing it again after you have used the bag. No matter how careful you are, there is probably some unseen dirt on that bag and you are then spraying the dirt on that bag. JMO.

Thank you so much!
 
Hello All,
Finally got a response from Longchamp.
They deemed the bag is ok (no manufacturing defect) and that it’s due to wear and tear. I’m gutted.
I’m no leather/handbag expert so I can’t dispute their assessment even after I have highlighted my light usage while using the bag. I’m sure many will start questioning my definition of “light” which is fair but then I should also be given a fair go. There isn’t an international written standard on bag assessment so I can only trust their assessment because they are the experts.
I have this feeling that I will be fighting a losing battle if I wish to push this further.
Just feeling really deflated. I’m never adventurous when it comes to luxury bag. Most times, I stick to the “tough” material (LV canvas) and the good old black colour. Having to go through both this and the Prada experience is just disheartening.
Might sound a little dramatic but I don’t think I can ever look at this bag in the same light again. Every time I look at this bag I will be reminded that I have made a wrong purchase.
Sorry for the long post……Don’t know where else to air this disappointment of mine.
 
Hello All,
Finally got a response from Longchamp.
They deemed the bag is ok (no manufacturing defect) and that it’s due to wear and tear. I’m gutted.
I’m no leather/handbag expert so I can’t dispute their assessment even after I have highlighted my light usage while using the bag. I’m sure many will start questioning my definition of “light” which is fair but then I should also be given a fair go. There isn’t an international written standard on bag assessment so I can only trust their assessment because they are the experts.
I have this feeling that I will be fighting a losing battle if I wish to push this further.
Just feeling really deflated. I’m never adventurous when it comes to luxury bag. Most times, I stick to the “tough” material (LV canvas) and the good old black colour. Having to go through both this and the Prada experience is just disheartening.
Might sound a little dramatic but I don’t think I can ever look at this bag in the same light again. Every time I look at this bag I will be reminded that I have made a wrong purchase.
Sorry for the long post……Don’t know where else to air this disappointment of mine.

Sorry to hear that this has happened. Have you tried contacting [email protected] per the email address here: https://en.longchamp.com/en/faq/longchamp-guarantee ?
 
I sent my bag to the local store SA and they sent it to their head office for assessment. And the assessment was deemed it's a wear and tear. I don't know how to challenge this assessment even though I don't agree with it.

I think it's worth it trying to email them anyway. Do you know if the LC is your country is franchised or not? Even if it isn't a franchise, I think it's still worth it to raise the issue by emailing. It's a matter of escalating it beyond your country just like how if you're not happy with service at say a hotel, you'd want to speak to the GM or even the GM at the HQ
 
Question (sorry if this has been asked)- what are your opinion(s) of the Le Pliage w/strap MIC? I received one yesterday on sale at about 50% off and a little disappointed that not only is the strap HDW a little scratched which I guess I can live with but the side seam leather tag inside indicates MIC not MIF. I do not own that many leather LP but the ones I do own are all MIF- not by design did this happen but just good luck I guess. Anyway, the bag itself is gorgeous but I am having problems getting past it not being MIF. I know it is a stupid worry in the broad picture of all life's concerns but input would be appreciated!
 
Question (sorry if this has been asked)- what are your opinion(s) of the Le Pliage w/strap MIC? I received one yesterday on sale at about 50% off and a little disappointed that not only is the strap HDW a little scratched which I guess I can live with but the side seam leather tag inside indicates MIC not MIF. I do not own that many leather LP but the ones I do own are all MIF- not by design did this happen but just good luck I guess. Anyway, the bag itself is gorgeous but I am having problems getting past it not being MIF. I know it is a stupid worry in the broad picture of all life's concerns but input would be appreciated!

It's not a stupid worry at all. That question gets asked all the time here, and it's very important to some people, and there's a long thread on the issue. In my Longchamp collection, most of the bags are made in France but some are made elsewhere, including China. The quality is usually comparable, regardless of the country of origin. I'm willing to accept a non-France bag sometimes if the leather quality is good, and especially if I got it on sale/discount, or if it's a particular style that I think would be risky to let go because of limited availability. Really it comes down to a personal decision with what you are comfortable with, and how much time you want to spend hunting around and whether the particular style/color you are looking for is even made in France at all. In terms of the Cuirs specifically, I think @seton is more of an expert on the colors and possible country of origin options.
 
It's not a stupid worry at all. That question gets asked all the time here, and it's very important to some people, and there's a long thread on the issue. In my Longchamp collection, most of the bags are made in France but some are made elsewhere, including China. The quality is usually comparable, regardless of the country of origin. I'm willing to accept a non-France bag sometimes if the leather quality is good, and especially if I got it on sale/discount, or if it's a particular style that I think would be risky to let go because of limited availability. Really it comes down to a personal decision with what you are comfortable with, and how much time you want to spend hunting around and whether the particular style/color you are looking for is even made in France at all. In terms of the Cuirs specifically, I think @seton is more of an expert on the colors and possible country of origin options.
Thank you for your lovely and eloquent response- I agree with what you wrote. I will think on the matter and do a cost/benefit analysis of keeping vs. releasing it back into the wild. The color is a true lipstick cherry red- no orange- similar to Hermes garance if you know that color from years ago. It is a knock-out in terms of color. I also tend to be a purist when it comes to MIF for more expensive bags (not the nylon Le Pliage so much). It is why the dilemma. I do appreciate such a learned LP reply from yourself :heart::flowers:
 
I know it is a stupid worry in the broad picture of all life's concerns but input would be appreciated!

I understand your concern and it is valid, nowhere silly at all. We all have our own preferences and that is totally fine. I do have LC bags from different lines and regardless of where they are made, the quality is consistent. Having been an LC fan for a few years, it doesn't dawn on me to check where the bag is made as I feel assured that it is always of good quality and I am also pleased to share that LC is a brand that I have had no issues whatsoever for anything I purchased, be it a LP, SLG or leather bags.
 
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It's not a stupid worry at all. That question gets asked all the time here, and it's very important to some people, and there's a long thread on the issue. In my Longchamp collection, most of the bags are made in France but some are made elsewhere, including China. The quality is usually comparable, regardless of the country of origin. I'm willing to accept a non-France bag sometimes if the leather quality is good, and especially if I got it on sale/discount, or if it's a particular style that I think would be risky to let go because of limited availability. Really it comes down to a personal decision with what you are comfortable with, and how much time you want to spend hunting around and whether the particular style/color you are looking for is even made in France at all. In terms of the Cuirs specifically, I think @seton is more of an expert on the colors and possible country of origin options.

I have a small black Cuir which is MIC and a few MIF. The black Cuir is just as soft and durable as MIF ones :D
 
I sent my bag to the local store SA and they sent it to their head office for assessment. And the assessment was deemed it's a wear and tear. I don't know how to challenge this assessment even though I don't agree with it.
Maybe I haven't been here long, but between your experience and mine, I feel like they always say that even when it is not wear and tear :(
 
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