No increases, yet.😬🫣😳I just remembered that today is the day for the price increase. I checked the website and it doesn't look like they have applied the change to the Saint-Clair messenger yet as it's still 4600 eur (I can't remember the older prices of other bags, unfortunately)
So maybe there is still time for those who are wanting to do a last minute purchase to save a couple of hundred dollars/euros
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I see that. And some bag prices decreased.🫤
I’m curious if the price increases are on bags that have new leathers and sizes coming out soon.
If I remember correctly from yesterday’s prices, the Lectoure vertical went down a few US dollars and I think the adagio horizontal totes in a couple of colors went down as well. The rest of the Lectoure totes and Fontélie look like they are the same price.
New additions coming to the Saint-Clair and Diane lines, and their prices have increased.
I hope they know what they are doing with the price increases. I feel like some of the bigger house increases are starting to blow back on them (Chanel...cough cough). These bags are beautiful and so well made, but as some have pointed out, this is a newer brand and probably won't have very high resale value (I don't care about that, but I know others do) for quite some time. I just don't want them to price themselves too steeply. Just my two-cents.
I tracked the prices last week and compared them to today - the Lectoure vertical went from $2502 to $2512 and the horizontal went from $2598 to $2605. Not much movement there. But yes, the Dianes and Saint-Claires went up about $200.
The resale market is irrelevant to pricing. They are looking at where they see their brand fitting into the competitive landscape and of course on their costs. JD has costs at the higher end (better materials, more labor intensive, no economies of scale like Chanel or H, lower volume, etc.).
I understand the pricing being irrelevant to resale, but was thinking about from the purchasing side and those that will say spending $7K on a bag with less resale value than Chanel, Hermes, and LV isn't worth it. I totally understand their higher end costs too as I visited them in Paris and it's clear the quality is through the roof. I guess my comment was just based on other people coming onto this thread and saying that a company with no history shouldn't be charging so much for bags, especially with no resale market history. My hope is for JD to remain in the game for years to come, hence my concern they price themselves too high.
I understand your position. Your points are valid. I, too, thought the bags were priced too high at first. But then I realized —I understand the pricing being irrelevant to resale, but was thinking about from the purchasing side and those that will say spending $7K on a bag with less resale value than Chanel, Hermes, and LV isn't worth it. I totally understand their higher end costs too as I visited them in Paris and it's clear the quality is through the roof. I guess my comment was just based on other people coming onto this thread and saying that a company with no history shouldn't be charging so much for bags, especially with no resale market history. My hope is for JD to remain in the game for years to come, hence my concern they price themselves too high.
They pay their craftspeople fair and competitive wages, use the best materials, and try to minimize marketing costs and overhead.
The bags are pricey, but JD doesn’t mark up the bags 10x like the big box brands do. To buy JD, I believe a client has to be thoughtful, want under-the-radar quality, and appreciate what the company stands for (by hiring out of work craftspeople released by LVMH during Covid). They also invest in training a new generation of craftspeople to create bags the old-fashioned way.
JD is into heritage and keeping the craft a craft, not just a fast fashion moneymaker. The popular brands have caved to the money-making idols.
When I buy JD, I believe I’m buying a forever bag.
I share your hope!I understand the pricing being irrelevant to resale, but was thinking about from the purchasing side and those that will say spending $7K on a bag with less resale value than Chanel, Hermes, and LV isn't worth it. I totally understand their higher end costs too as I visited them in Paris and it's clear the quality is through the roof. I guess my comment was just based on other people coming onto this thread and saying that a company with no history shouldn't be charging so much for bags, especially with no resale market history. My hope is for JD to remain in the game for years to come, hence my concern they price themselves too high.
To me the situation is similar to Moynat’s early collections. They technically had “no history” too (even though there was an archive) - everything had to be restarted from scratch. Same with JD without the archive. But Ramesh is at the helm, they have the design talent, the artisans, the production methods, tannery relationships, specialty makers of hardware etc.
Those who think the value isn’t there should just spend their money elsewhere.
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Exactly. JD is the opposite of fashion (which is not at all the same as unfashionable).
In the US, the horizontal went up (a wee bit) in price. It’s like watching the stock market.😵💫
Example:
Compared to the $2512 @bmshqklutxv posted yesterday.
This was the price at 8am today. At 9,30am …
.Yesterday, the post was $2605, today it is:
.Are we looking at an hourly or daily price increase? Here’s my opinion — if you’re going to do a reasonable price increase, do a reasonable price increase. This incremental price creep drives me mad.
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I could be wrong, but I believe the USD prices fluctuate based on the EUR>USD currency exchange rate. I had been stalking the Diane messenger before the PI and the USD price changed slightly almost everyday while the EUR price remained the same. In terms of PI, I’d go by the EUR prices only.
One night last week I wrote down all of the EUR prices in a spreadsheet. I haven’t had time to update it with the current EUR prices but I’d be happy to update it and share the list here. It’ll be interesting to see the % of increase across their various products.
PS - I ordered the Diane Messenger!!!!! I should have her next week!!!
