Gorgeous…. With the black hardware too
It looks like the croco skin has a metallic sheen to it. Stunning!
Do tell us if you get to see it on your visit, curious how it looks IRL.
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It looks like the croco skin has a metallic sheen to it. Stunning!
Do tell us if you get to see it on your visit, curious how it looks IRL.
I think you’re right about the codes, and the use of contrast stitching.
also, from a historical perspective, its only very recently that we have a variety in colour of leathers and of stitching threads. In the past, before chrome tanning, leather colours were limited to black, tan, russet. And the thread was undyed, waxed linen thread, white or off-white in colour. In time they began to use black thread on black leather, but there still wasnt much variety.
Today, manufacturers can use dyed threads (& not always linen thread).
Personally, I like that the Diane has matching thread, it shows up the beauty of the hardware, not just the closure but also the band around the bottom. It would be too busy and distracting with white stitching. I’m sure Ramesh thought of that as he often talks in interviews about the importance of form & line, and attention to metallic parts.
another point - Diane heritage leather isnt just in the chestnut colour, it comes in cocagne blue, red, etc some of them quite bright (esp considering its vegetal tanned). I dont think white stitching would look so good on those colours.
Actually I got curious about a remark made by someone earlier how the stitching would look lighter eventually as the leather patinas, so I pulled out my Diane messenger to take a look. Yes, the leather is getting a patina , along with a few scuffs & scratches . The thread isnt looking lighter by comparison though and I confirm that white thread on this colour would not look good. Of course, Ramesh could have gone with white thread on the chataignier leather and matching on the others, but hey he’s the one who gets to decide !
I received an email for it. I think if you're a prior customer you'll be contacted.
@crocodilemonkey, your bag is lovely! Would you be kind enough to tell me what the color and leather is? Thank you in advance!
Thank you !
its the Heritage leather in bleu de cocagne. In certain lights it shows purplish tones especially as it develops a patina. I believe it will darken as the patina develops further, so I plan to document the evolution of the colour.
Someone took a video of the trunk show at the Carlyle. It doesn't embed here so you'd just have to click this (no need to be logged on to IG to view)
Looks like a very low key affair, and so many croc Dianes.
Looks like a very low key affair, and so many croc Dianes.
Omg i love how your bag developed this patina! i used to get so scared of scratching my bags and what not before and used to only want leathers that remained "new" even after use .
But now, the more I learn about leathers and their natural characteristics as well as how brands use lower quality leather (meaning they go thru more chemical coatings and "coverage"), the more I appreciate very premium leathers with very little "treatment" to showcase the near-natural state of the bag -- this is how I finally understood why there is a premium price on smoother finish, full grain leather.
So yes, I love that your bag has patina'd so beautifully ❤️❤️ JD leather (as long as Ramesh is around as creative director), is really on a premium league of its own ❤️
A video of a vlogger who went to the end of September event
The grey alligator Saint-Clair messenger is wow, even in suboptimal lighting
The grey alligator Saint-Clair messenger is wow, even in suboptimal lighting
you're welcome. and same, tbh
that's why I'm leaning towards the Saint-Clair. it's the more casual one between the two initial models, and fits my lifestyle more
I have answers for you directly from Ramesh Nair in bold below!
The Diane in ostrich is made to order, after discussion with interested clients. Currently, there are the following colours available in the store: aubergine, chestnut and grey, one example of each.
Ramesh makes the colour decision based on the selection of the best skins and his personal affinity for colours in different leathers. He finds that ostrich skin is best revealed in certain colours, and he did not feel that black and blue bring out the natural texture of this leather. If a client wishes to order a Diane ostrich in black or blue, that could be possible.
He has not used canvas for Joseph Duclos as this is purely a leather brand in its DNA; it may happen sometime in the future, but only if it makes sense for the brand. The specific mix of materials has to make sense for the brand story, and not be forced.
He is planning to use it in combination with certain Heritage or other leathers, for special orders or limited edition series, hopefully in the near future.
Ramesh does not follow trends and market studies, a lot of what he decides to launch comes from a craft technique or a material that he is interested in. The Arpège leather is one of Ramesh’s favourite leathers, and he may use it for a new style in the future.
The Diane in ostrich is made to order, after discussion with interested clients. Currently, there are the following colours available in the store: aubergine, chestnut and grey, one example of each.
Ramesh makes the colour decision based on the selection of the best skins and his personal affinity for colours in different leathers. He finds that ostrich skin is best revealed in certain colours, and he did not feel that black and blue bring out the natural texture of this leather. If a client wishes to order a Diane ostrich in black or blue, that could be possible.
The one-of-a-kind Diane in mother-of-pearl lizard skin with rose gold hardware, is priced at 16,000 Euros.
Ramesh has created mixed material bags in the past, including at Joseph Duclos - for example, the Saint Clair bag with crocodile leather flap on a body of vegetable-tanned natural cowhide.
He has not used canvas for Joseph Duclos as this is purely a leather brand in its DNA; it may happen sometime in the future, but only if it makes sense for the brand. The specific mix of materials has to make sense for the brand story, and not be forced.
All-black hardware is technically complex, expensive and time-consuming in production. This is why for the moment Ramesh prefers to restrict it to exotic leathers.
He is planning to use it in combination with certain Heritage or other leathers, for special orders or limited edition series, hopefully in the near future.
Ramesh always has new bags in the pipeline, often he holds back in order not to overwhelm the collection with newness each season while previous models have not yet had the time to be appreciated. It is a long process to develop new bags, and he works closely with artisans to master the techniques needed for each style. It would be a pity to continually push out new styles instead of applying value to the artisans’ work.
Ramesh does not follow trends and market studies, a lot of what he decides to launch comes from a craft technique or a material that he is interested in. The Arpège leather is one of Ramesh’s favourite leathers, and he may use it for a new style in the future.
"Ramesh does not follow trends and market studies" This is why we love his designs, he follows his artists eye and not a boring computer model of what we are all going to "want"! Thank you Megs for this amazing post.
