Me too. IMO only, this is a sporty, daytime leather, and contrast stitching and phw are a natural fit.The Diane L20 in Châtaignier with a noticeable patina
This is probably from the window display since the patina looks one-sided and slightly diagonal
(Screengrabbed from the interview of the CEO of Joseph Duclos, Franck Dahan, at BFM Business)
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I couldn't help but imagine this would look so great with contrast stitching (and palladium hardware), since tonal stitching is starting to look lighter anyway where the bag darkened. But that's just me
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Just saw this bag on their IG. So love the look of this. Been looking for an all croc bag in black with non-gold hardware. Im excited to check on their store when I go to Paris to see what other exotic options they have.
Going to Paris doesnt have to be about Hermes lol.
Going to Paris doesnt have to be about Hermes lol.
louder for people at the back
that croc clutch with black hardware is indeed stunning. if I was a clutch person I'd be crazy over that
I am going to Paris too and will be stopping by. Should I make an appt first? Develop a relationship with an SA before my visit? I think H has ruined (ie. scared) me for luxury shopping at this point. (I will be going to H to get a watch. And I would love a Plume, but a JD bag is my goal for this trip).
You can just enter. The store is usually nearly empty. And the store manager, Latifa, is so nice. She's the one usually there and if you're the only customer she will give you a tour of the entire store. If you're lucky and an artisan is there, they will show you how they make the Saint-Clair bags. I think they showcase that a lot because it involves a tool they made themselves: a bag mold made of layers of leather that feels like wood, and the perpendicular stitching is both fascinating and innovative. I don't think other brands do that, even Hermès.
I'm not a clutch person but that is stunning. Here's a bag where I think the closure really serves the bag; gorgeous!
Random research:
So I'm still obsessed with Joseph Duclos, particularly the Saint-Clair messenger bag. On the website's description it says:
The Saint-Clair Messenger Bag draws its inspiration from 18th-century royal cases that lent an undeniable nobility to any movement.
I've been wondering what this "18th-century royal case" looks like. Today, with the help of ChatGPT (for search keywords), I was finally able to locate what I think is the inspiration of the Saint-Clair messenger bag.
The images on the left column are of the recreation of the cartridge pouches that were used by the Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) from 1777 to 1784 (source):
During the course of the American Revolution, there were a variety of cartridge pouch designs employed by the British. Old styles dating from the 7 Years War, reversible block pouches carrying between 36 and 40 rounds, 18 round pouches with tin inserts, 18 round pouches with wood blocks, 26 round pouches, and 29 round pouches.
The 1777 accoutrement order listed that the cartridge pouches for the Light Company included a brass mounted powder horn and a bullet bag in addition to the pouch with buff strap and brass ornament on the flap.
Speaking of the "bullet bag", it seems like it can be the inspiration for another Saint-Clair bag: the Saint-Clair Clutch
So there you have it. Very apt for a company that has "Royal Manufacture" in its slogan
I'm excited to see what other royal inspirations Ramesh Nair will end up using in future JD bags.
So I'm still obsessed with Joseph Duclos, particularly the Saint-Clair messenger bag. On the website's description it says:
The Saint-Clair Messenger Bag draws its inspiration from 18th-century royal cases that lent an undeniable nobility to any movement.
I've been wondering what this "18th-century royal case" looks like. Today, with the help of ChatGPT (for search keywords), I was finally able to locate what I think is the inspiration of the Saint-Clair messenger bag.
The images on the left column are of the recreation of the cartridge pouches that were used by the Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) from 1777 to 1784 (source):
During the course of the American Revolution, there were a variety of cartridge pouch designs employed by the British. Old styles dating from the 7 Years War, reversible block pouches carrying between 36 and 40 rounds, 18 round pouches with tin inserts, 18 round pouches with wood blocks, 26 round pouches, and 29 round pouches.
The 1777 accoutrement order listed that the cartridge pouches for the Light Company included a brass mounted powder horn and a bullet bag in addition to the pouch with buff strap and brass ornament on the flap.
Speaking of the "bullet bag", it seems like it can be the inspiration for another Saint-Clair bag: the Saint-Clair Clutch
So there you have it. Very apt for a company that has "Royal Manufacture" in its slogan
I'm excited to see what other royal inspirations Ramesh Nair will end up using in future JD bags.
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Nice research, although I hope there is a French version out there somewhere, else another historical clash.Random research:
So I'm still obsessed with Joseph Duclos, particularly the Saint-Clair messenger bag. On the website's description it says:
The Saint-Clair Messenger Bag draws its inspiration from 18th-century royal cases that lent an undeniable nobility to any movement.
I've been wondering what this "18th-century royal case" looks like. Today, with the help of ChatGPT (for search keywords), I was finally able to locate what I think is the inspiration of the Saint-Clair messenger bag.
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The images on the left column are of the recreation of the cartridge pouches that were used by the Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) from 1777 to 1784 (source):
During the course of the American Revolution, there were a variety of cartridge pouch designs employed by the British. Old styles dating from the 7 Years War, reversible block pouches carrying between 36 and 40 rounds, 18 round pouches with tin inserts, 18 round pouches with wood blocks, 26 round pouches, and 29 round pouches.
The 1777 accoutrement order listed that the cartridge pouches for the Light Company included a brass mounted powder horn and a bullet bag in addition to the pouch with buff strap and brass ornament on the flap.
Speaking of the "pouch with buff strap", it seems like it can be the inspiration for another Saint-Clair bag: the Saint-Clair Clutch
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So there you have it. Very apt for a company that has "Royal Manufacture" in its slogan
I'm excited to see what other royal inspirations Ramesh Nair will end up using in future JD bags.
These historic bags are inspirational to Ramesh as well.
I, too, love the historical inspirations. JD’s bags, leather finishes, and straps have a story, before they become part of yours.
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Random research:
So I'm still obsessed with Joseph Duclos, particularly the Saint-Clair messenger bag. On the website's description it says:
The Saint-Clair Messenger Bag draws its inspiration from 18th-century royal cases that lent an undeniable nobility to any movement.
I've been wondering what this "18th-century royal case" looks like. Today, with the help of ChatGPT (for search keywords), I was finally able to locate what I think is the inspiration of the Saint-Clair messenger bag.
View attachment 5876846
The images on the left column are of the recreation of the cartridge pouches that were used by the Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) from 1777 to 1784 (source):
During the course of the American Revolution, there were a variety of cartridge pouch designs employed by the British. Old styles dating from the 7 Years War, reversible block pouches carrying between 36 and 40 rounds, 18 round pouches with tin inserts, 18 round pouches with wood blocks, 26 round pouches, and 29 round pouches.
The 1777 accoutrement order listed that the cartridge pouches for the Light Company included a brass mounted powder horn and a bullet bag in addition to the pouch with buff strap and brass ornament on the flap.
Speaking of the "bullet bag", it seems like it can be the inspiration for another Saint-Clair bag: the Saint-Clair Clutch
View attachment 5876865
So there you have it. Very apt for a company that has "Royal Manufacture" in its slogan
I'm excited to see what other royal inspirations Ramesh Nair will end up using in future JD bags.
Thank you for your post.
What an amazing find! I love history!
This is amazing, thanks for’sharing !
Yes, you’re right about these historical bags being an inspiration for Ramesh. I saw similar vintage bags on display in the store when I visited. I was told Ramesh loves digging into history & tracing the roots of the brand. He actually based the designs for the entire collection on the kind of objects made of leather during Duclos’ founding/ existence.
And then of course he makes them suitable for contemporary wear & use - because I dont see myself carrying these little cases around today, although they’re beautiful