Johnny Depp

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I don't feel sympathy for either party to be honest. I 100% believe Depp is capable of this, Depp's been going full on Brando for a while now, the indulged, bloated, mumbling, drunken celebrity who's never grown up is now just sad. On the other hand there's something a bit off about Amber Heard, I'd like more info on what's up... although I highly doubt you'll ever get any real insight into Depp, as someone already pointed out he's got one of the most powerful PR people in HWood working for him and I can't recall an interview with him (or performance) that ever reached beyond his quirky shtick.

I've generally had no feeling towards Heard whatsoever and know little about her but the way the news is unfolding gives me pause, I'd like more information first... which is not to say I don't believe that something went down or that a phone wasn't thrown it's just that the story as relayed by Amber is the type of story that can be true and also be true from alternate conflicting perspectives.
 
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ByeKitty said:
People keep going on about her being a gold digger and all, which I'm sure she is, but why not mention that this is actually a very risky move for her? It could hurt her career loads, because in Hollywood it seems like people prefer sticking up for the men, especially if they're generally loved - which Johnny is. I can already see some people in this thread argue in that direction: like what exactly about her dress comes across as ingenuine?!
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Risky? Perhaps but she is absolutely destroying Johnny's career right now which, if all this is true, I have no problem with. If it's not true, yeah ... I have no words.
 
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Risking her career? What career? I can't remember her having a career. The last time I saw her was in The Danish Girl and that part could've easily been cut out and no one would've missed it. She milked that film for PR beyond her screen time.
I'm not saying Johnny couldn't have done it but for now I'm not siding 100% with her because there seems something off.
 
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bagberry13 said:
risking her career? What career? I can't remember her having a career. The last time i saw her was in the danish girl and that part could've easily been cut out and no one would've missed it. She milked that film for pr beyond her screen time.
I'm not saying johnny couldn't have done it but for now i'm not siding 100% with her because there seems something off.
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+1 too all of this.

:roflmfao: She has no career other than being with Johnny Depp.
 
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^ I also agree she's not a great actress but I think she has enough of a career... maybe not a great career or an even good one but she has enough of a profile separate from Depp to survive.

This is 100% reckless speculation but I think this is more personal than being a gold digger, I think she's likely equally volatile as Depp. I think Depp is at a vulnerable age and time with his children growing up, his career evaporating, his looks fading, his mother's passing. Being with a very beautiful much younger woman may have been some epic fuel to an already dysfunctional fire.
 
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^ You think even with social media? I feel like the rules have changed a little in the last couple years. She's also not an unknown quantity in her own right, she's not a great actress but she's good enough (or pretty enough) to stand on her own (imo)


My personal feeling is that something went down (the severity of which is debatable) and a volatile relationship that probably should never have existed become a cluster**k. It is weird that Depp married her after all the other women he had been engaged to over the years... what was it about her that was so special? Perhaps it was simply a mid life crisis move.

I am surprised to learn just how shambolic their marriage seems to have been. I admit I did believe in some of the facade.
 
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I feel that often all that social media does is magnify prevailing points of view... People read other peoples' arguments and feel like that brings them closer to the 'truth'. I just can't pick sides at this stage.
 
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If I'm not mistaken she was reluctant about marryīng him from the beginning... they said she turned his proposal down before accepting it...if it's true I wonder why...was it just a play on her part or there was something else back there...
 
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According to this article with new details of her legal applications, Amber tried to settle out of court and did not want it to get to the media. She's also named witnesses on both sides including Johnny's bodyguard.

Make of it what you will.

http://www.celebitchy.com/487871/am...this_out_of_court_she_has_multiple_witnesses/

There's also a very disturbing account of his security team walking in on him abusing her and doing nothing.

I highly recommend reading this. Its a good article.
 
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FreeSpirit71 said:
This is from a poster on Celebitchy (GingerNYC):it puts the timeline on better perspective.



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Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems like this is the timeline of events:

1- JD’s mom dies

2- JD &and AH have altercation. AH takes pictures.

3- (last Friday) Amber files papers to request a hearing on the temp restraining order. Included in those papers are these allegations as well as pictures. At this point these papers are not yet public record.

4- (last weekend) JD offers AH settlement money so as to end any court proceedings.

5- (Monday) AH files for divorce, requesting spousal support.

6- JD files response. Requests that no support be granted.

7- (today) hearing on TRO. judge reviews AH’s papers, finds in favor of AH, and grants TREO. after hearing all papers become part of the public record.



So what that seems to mean is that he offered her money last weekend if she would stop the hearing process and/or not file divorce papers. And she obviously said no. Now what kind of gold digger is that? She didn’t even give Disney time to figure out how much they would kick in! She would know that she needed more than 2 days to get her best offer out of them.

It seems far more likely to me that he hit her, she didn’t feel safe and requested the TRO, JD found out about the hearing and tried to buy her off, she turned down his offer of money and instead spent the weekend with her att’y getting papers ready, then she filed for divorce on Monday. THAT scenario makes the most sense to me.

As to the request for spousal support, two things are important: first, that the atty included the sp spt request as part of the 1st filing because you must request it in those papers or you are barred from ever requesting it. So the atty throws in everything and the kitchen sink so as to avoid being precluded at a later time. That way it doesn’t matter what his strategy is or what happens down the road because you’ve addressed it. Also, it’s good for negotiating purposes. You are giving yourself something to throw out and act like by doing so you are compromising. Second, she may well be anticipating his statements and the resulting backlash and wants to be sure that she gets some money even if she completely loses her career as a result. Either is fair and both are smart moves. Neither is just because she is a gold digger.



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A longtime poster on CB who is in family law agreed with this assessment.
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If it's true then it's really put things in a different perspective.

Let's see how the story unfolds.
 
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