Is this marketing email from Fashionphile cultural appropriation?

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Sorry @jellyv, but I find your argument quite insulting to my field of research and terribly misinformed.
I wouldn't want you to feel insulted, it wasn't meant personally. I have worked with and have many friends in the lit crit world, with whom I disagree (amicably). It's a new day every day in academia, and it's fine to recognize that. I'm not misinformed, having spent such a very long time in this world myself.
.Just a comment that there are other ways of dealing with social power structures--and more relevant to the topic at hand, matters involving the exchanges among society's subgroups--that go pretty far beyond linguistic theory. As you must know if you have any friends in the social sciences.
 
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I wouldn't want you to feel insulted, it wasn't meant personally. I have worked with and have many friends in the lit crit world, with whom I disagree (amicably). It's a new day every day in academia, and it's fine to recognize that. I'm not misinformed, having spent such a very long time in this world myself.
.Just a comment that there are other ways of dealing with social power structures--and more relevant to the topic at hand, matters involving the exchanges among society's subgroups--that go pretty far beyond linguistic theory. As I'm sure you're aware if you have friends in the social sciences.
There are many ways to examine any kind of issue. That's the beauty of academic research. Dismissing an entire field is unproductive.
 
There are many ways to examine any kind of issue. That's the beauty of academic research. Dismissing an entire field is unproductive.

Not dismissing it, suggesting its limitations, which I do believe are there. It's had pride of place for quite a while but I don't think it will in the next gen, at least in some of the social sciences. There's a renewed interest in and valuing of fieldwork, oral history, and community study tracking lived experience (new ethnography) that is less compatible with theory only.
Sorry if this is a hijack.
 
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The whole postmodernist lit-crit mission of analyzing power relationships via linguistics has taken over grad school programs in at least a couple of fields for the last, oh, 30-40 years or so. I'm still surprised to find it holding such powerful sway in academia, when far more nuanced understandings are out there about how subgroups in society interact. The appropriation discussion reflects this bias toward seeing mostly exploiters and the exploited. It was cutting-edge once, maybe, but it strikes me now as ahistorical, simplistic, and tired, intellectually. Better work is out there today that examines how pluralistic societies feature hybridity, exchange, and bidrectional or multidirectional influences.

Well, to my ears, this sounds like a positive move. :flowers: Almost post-modern anything tended to suck.
 
After this lovely discussion, which I hope got everybody thinking about more than handbags, I do believe that the Fashionphile marketing email was careless and inappropriate. I know that many of you disagree and think it's fabulous. We don't all walk at the same pace and that's ok!
 
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I'm also going to address the idea that just because someone appears to be of a certain ethnicity doesn't mean they partake in that culture.I think it's ignorant to assume something so personal by the color of someone's skin. I may appear to be "white" but that doesn't mean I'm white, if that makes any sense. I may be photogenically white but I'm also partially first nations (from my father.) I also think it's important to recognize that "white people" have a variety of cultural elements as well.
 
This video opened my eyes a lot.


Thanks for posting that. However, if it was in response to my post mentioning I have misgivings about the term ‘micro-aggression’, I believe the examples given in the film are of unconscious or conscious prejudice and misconceived beliefs, or in some instances even mere rudeness, and I wouldn’t ever suggest that to be regularly on the receiving end of cumulative casual prejudice and stereotyping (including ‘positive’ stereotyping) is not unpleasant, limiting, exhausting, and deserving of our attention and efforts to prevent it. It’s just the term ‘micro-aggression’ I dislike because I believe it implies or is often understood to imply intent to hurt, which may actually be absent. The fact that somebody is hurt by someone else’s words or actions does not of itself imply the hurt was intended, and I think the term can therefore itself be categorising and divisive and misguidedly judgemental of the person apparently acting in this way, which is helpful to nobody.
 
Thanks for posting that. However, if it was in response to my post mentioning I have misgivings about the term ‘micro-aggression’, I believe the examples given in the film are of unconscious or conscious prejudice and misconceived beliefs, or in some instances even mere rudeness, and I wouldn’t ever suggest that to be regularly on the receiving end of cumulative casual prejudice and stereotyping (including ‘positive’ stereotyping) is not unpleasant, limiting, exhausting, and deserving of our attention and efforts to prevent it. It’s just the term ‘micro-aggression’ I dislike because I believe it implies or is often understood to imply intent to hurt, which may actually be absent. The fact that somebody is hurt by someone else’s words or actions does not of itself imply the hurt was intended, and I think the term can therefore itself be categorising and divisive and misguidedly judgemental of the person apparently acting in this way, which is helpful to nobody.

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Someone wise once said, "I´m responsible only for the words I utter, not for how you choose to interpret them". I.e., our personal interpretation of someone´s words reveals more about us and how we choose to interpret them about than the actual content of the message. We read an intention where often there is none behind it - because we all have filters, biases, taboos and caveats, our own, and, as adult, mature thinking people, I believe that how each of us chooses to react to any given message is very much our choice. In other words, I can be triggered or offended by someone´s words, but also choose not to be bloody-minded by presupposing that person went out of his/her way to offend me on purpose. Most of the time there is no offense meant - and therefore, none given :-)

Be it out of personal or inherited trauma, or other subjective reasons, there are a lot of false assumptions nowadays that often lead to unfair projections ("I feel hurt by something I see/hear, so therefore of course you acted in bad faith and your intent was to deliberately cause me offense"). It´s a little bit like some people who go, "If you actually cared for me, you´d just simply KNOW what I wanted from you without me having to tell you explicitly, so this shows you´re a mean selfish insensitive person". It´s simply impossible for anybody to know everything, foresee everything, and take into account everybody´s feelings, as desirable as that kind of omniscience might be.

By way of analogy, and to fit the above into a purse discussion: I would definitely pass on a python purse, a lizard wallet and a pony-fur backpack, and their sight does sadden me - but I would not think anybody who makes them, sells them, buys them, or uses them is a bad, ignorant or uncaring person who means to be rude or offensive (yes, I´m leaving out another can of worms re: exotics breeding for fashion.... for another day).
 
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