Is this elaborate LV scheme possible?

[vernis-lover]

Because there is record of a purchase for a python bag under her account. So I figured she could have kept the original and sold a fake online all the while showing proof it is "real". It is so hard to explain I guess, but it doesn't feel like the python in the LV store. The scales on theirs were more dry and flaky. This one feels softer. The Interior leather on this one literally comes out when I pull on it. The one in the store is secured in place and their leather feels thicker. The strap on the one in the store has no seams, but this one does. This purse also leans to one side. I honestly think this is a fake.

Sorry, you've lost me. The seller wouldn't have to be an LV employee to have a "real" purchase and use the receipt to sell a counterfeit; anyone could do it. I read your original post as asking if LV employees could batch print receipts from any customer profile in order to sell fakes online. So I presumed you thought the seller was an LV employee.

You've already stated that there is a 2 year age gap between your purchase and the store purchase. I don't have this piece so can't comment specifically but products do change. Faults are discovered and remedied. I am no expert on exotic leathers but would all python skin feel the same? I have no idea.

You have a choice to make: ask the seller to return because you believe it to be counterfeit or wait out on the authentications. You have plenty of time to make your decision but if it's causing you stress and sleepless nights then you have to ask .... it's a bag. Is it worth it? I'll check again - which authentication service did you use (one of them is better contacted via FB and not their website as I understand)?

 

[JadaStormy]

I understand. I finally submitted a post with the required photos but did not get a response. I assume they ghosted me as I have read on other sites that some of the women on here are very rude and the culture is like the movie Mean Girls. LOL. I am not sure I fit in. I buy alot of LV bags but never an exotic print. I feel like I have a good grasp on identifying fakes but when it comes to animal print, I am not familiar totally.

I authenticate all my own items too and looking at that python I have no clue! I'm sorry you feel like it's mean girls, honestly some threads get more heated than others. But I would say generally TPF is a fun, helpful, and informative community.

 

[miss_chiff]

Because there is record of a purchase for a python bag under her account. So I figured she could have kept the original and sold a fake online all the while showing proof it is "real". It is so hard to explain I guess, but it doesn't feel like the python in the LV store. The scales on theirs were more dry and flaky. This one feels softer. The Interior leather on this one literally comes out when I pull on it. The one in the store is secured in place and their leather feels thicker. The strap on the one in the store has no seams, but this one does. This purse also leans to one side. I honestly think this is a fake.

I have an old pair of python shoes. It’s difficult to keep the scales nice and flat. It’s possible the original owner treated the scales with something if they started peeling up, which would of left it with that softer feeling. Sorry for your frustration. GL.

 

[ash31love]

I authenticate all my own items too and looking at that python I have no clue! I'm sorry you feel like it's mean girls, honestly some threads get more heated than others. But I would say generally TPF is a fun, helpful, and informative community.

Yeah, python is hard. Especially this one...Wonder if it is a super fake! lol. Like I legit pride myself on detecting fakes. I have sent back 2 Lv's and a Prada from Ebay knowing they were fake after getting the bag. I wondered if the photos listed were even the one sent to me! LOL. I have read tons of literature about all this. But man, this one has got me stumped. I am going to do more research and get my PHD in purse authenticating. Ha!

 

[vernis-lover]

I understand. I finally submitted a post with the required photos but did not get a response. I assume they ghosted me as I have read on other sites that some of the women on here are very rude and the culture is like the movie Mean Girls. LOL. I am not sure I fit in. I buy alot of LV bags but never an exotic print. I feel like I have a good grasp on identifying fakes but when it comes to animal print, I am not familiar totally.

Well that's quite a mean spirited thing to say about people when you're looking for help. Even if it is repeating it from somewhere else. Sorry, just my opinion.

So just to clarify, people are always happy to help here. Some people bend over backwards to help others out. And get very little thanks (am referring to the authenticators). Their services, which they give up for free, are taken for granted and people complain if they don't get a response as fast as they would like. It's not just a case of quickly scanning over a couple of photos and offering an opinion. There is research to be done, databases of information and years of experience to draw upon. Honestly, it's a thankless task. Imagine how exhausting it must be to ask people over and over again for the required images because people can't take 30 seconds out of their precious day to read the first post and post the correct images in the first place yet expect an authenticator to research quite old or rare pieces. This is a broad generalisation here - am not having a go at you specifically. You couldn't pay me to do it.

 

[poopsie]

I am also curious as to which authentication service was used...........................

 

[LemonDrop]

Hi. Welcome. Let’s say this bag is real. Do you love it? The inside coming out? The seam. It’s tipping to one side. I don’t know about you, but I to set my bags where I can see them. Like a work of art. I wouldn’t want to look at a tipping over bag. The vibe that this bag is giving you is that it’s fake. It seems off to you. And we all deserve bags we are totally in love with. Perhaps you might consider just returning it. Based on the fact that it’s tipping to one side. That might just continue to get worse. Then you could find a better version of this bag. One with out all the bad mojo.

 

[Kevinh73]

I’m not an authenticator so I can’t authenticate your bag for you but that’s not the type of bag that fakers would usually do. Think about it. When a factory wants to fake a bag, they typically do the most popular bags (ie speedy, neverfull, etc.) because it takes money to get the pattern, leather, and hardware right. Speedy and neverfull is easy to churn as price point is “low”. It’s not cost effective to just do one off python bag. Now if you see tons of bags with same type of leather and shape floating on eBay, I would be very worry. I’ve not checked eBay but I’m assuming this type of python bag rarely pops up on eBay. Sure, if someone knows LV construction well, they can fake things with less effort but honestly your bag looks like too much work to fake as an one off. There are not that many people waiting to spend 6k on a bag on eBay. Imo, your bag looks doesn’t look fake. Again, I’m not an authenticator but logically speaking, I just can’t imagine someone faking a bag like that. I would just wait till for a professional authenticator to get back to you. Good luck.

 

[JadaStormy]

Hi. Welcome. Let’s say this bag is real. Do you love it? The inside coming out? The seam. It’s tipping to one side. I don’t know about you, but I to set my bags where I can see them. Like a work of art. I wouldn’t want to look at a tipping over bag. The vibe that this bag is giving you is that it’s fake. It seems off to you. And we all deserve bags we are totally in love with. Perhaps you might consider just returning it. Based on the fact that it’s tipping to one side. That might just continue to get worse. Then you could find a better version of this bag. One with out all the bad mojo.

I was going to say this! I don't think OP will be happy with the bag, so it's best to return it. It's way too expensive to settle.

 

[poopsie]

The listing states no returns. If it is "way too expensive to settle" then shouldn't it be way too expensive to not verify authenticity, condition, etc BEFORE purchasing?

 

[JadaStormy]

Yeah, python is hard. Especially this one...Wonder if it is a super fake! lol. Like I legit pride myself on detecting fakes. I have sent back 2 Lv's and a Prada from Ebay knowing they were fake after getting the bag. I wondered if the photos listed were even the one sent to me! LOL. I have read tons of literature about all this. But man, this one has got me stumped. I am going to do more research and get my PHD in purse authenticating. Ha!

As someone else commented, I would just send it back. Even if it turned out to be real it has many things that make you unhappy and it was very expensive. The seller is cooperating, so that's a good sign, maybe she will easily accept the return.

 

[ash31love]

Well that's quite a mean spirited thing to say about people when you're looking for help. Even if it is repeating it from somewhere else. Sorry, just my opinion.

So just to clarify, people are always happy to help here. Some people bend over backwards to help others out. And get very little thanks (am referring to the authenticators). Their services, which they give up for free, are taken for granted and people complain if they don't get a response as fast as they would like. It's not just a case of quickly scanning over a couple of photos and offering an opinion. There is research to be done, databases of information and years of experience to draw upon. Honestly, it's a thankless task. Imagine how exhausting it must be to ask people over and over again for the required images because people can't take 30 seconds out of their precious day to read the first post and post the correct images in the first place yet expect an authenticator to research quite old or rare pieces. This is a broad generalisation here - am not having a go at you specifically. You couldn't pay me to do it.

I am just quoting from other reviews I have read about this site. I am not mean spirited. I have been met with rude comments by several people and all I am doing is looking for insight on my purchase. thats it. If you want my honest opinion this would be an example of someone going out of their way to be catty and say I am 'mean spirited' when I am just quoting other reviews. And I can definitely feel the tension in this forum. I am kind laid back person who has been scolded on here for saying and posting incorrectly. Its just an odd culture. but you see it everywhere. Catty atmospheres. women in workplaces fighting. I don't understand it. *sigh*

 

[ash31love]

Hi. Welcome. Let’s say this bag is real. Do you love it? The inside coming out? The seam. It’s tipping to one side. I don’t know about you, but I to set my bags where I can see them. Like a work of art. I wouldn’t want to look at a tipping over bag. The vibe that this bag is giving you is that it’s fake. It seems off to you. And we all deserve bags we are totally in love with. Perhaps you might consider just returning it. Based on the fact that it’s tipping to one side. That might just continue to get worse. Then you could find a better version of this bag. One with out all the bad mojo.

I agree. Thank you. I am going to return it. I don't want to have to always wonder. I'd be devastated later if I find that my 6k purchase is fake. Its my largest purchase. It has definitely got me nervous and waking up in the night after dreaming about snake skin straps, and flaps. HaHa.

 

[JadaStormy]

The listing states no returns. If it is "way too expensive to settle" then shouldn't it be way too expensive to not verify authenticity, condition, etc BEFORE purchasing?

I did say in my previous posts that it's not a good idea to buy without authenticating first. But we know that many people buy bags and get them authenicated after the fact. The ebay listing didn't have enough pics for me personally to feel comfortable buying it, but OP did and now is seeking assistance.

 

[lshcat]

I am just quoting from other reviews I have read about this site. I am not mean spirited. I have been met with rude comments by several people and all I am doing is looking for insight on my purchase. thats it. If you want my honest opinion this would be an example of someone going out of their way to say I am 'mean spirited' when I am just quoting other reviews. And I can definitely feel the tension in this forum. I am kind laid back person who has been scolded on here for saying and posting incorrectly. Its just an odd culture. but you see it everywhere. Catty atmospheres. women in workplaces fighting. I don't understand it. *sigh*

I'm going to reply to this, even though you were quite rude/shouting to me. I'm honestly not sure why the hostility.

I was PM'd and asked to try to help you. I looked at your authentication request, and this thread too. On page 2, I quoted you and replied that I didn't even see a heat stamp photo in your authentication request. (Basic photo needed.) I mentioned other photos that would be helpful, tips for finding the date code, and then I'm sure a qualified authenticator (whether here, myself, other authenticators or outside elsewhere) would be able to form an opinion. So no, as far as I can see so far anyway (unless I missed it in another post) you haven't posted all the photos you would need. If that's "scolding" I'm sorry you feel that way. But it seemed like you were ignoring the steps you'd need to do to simply solve this question for yourself, instead you're theorizing, assuming. It's a LOT of money and in spite of your opinion of me and perhaps others, we ARE trying to help you authenticate. Maybe you came into this forum with an expectation already, if that's what you heard about this site. Remember, you can't interpret attitude from written words.