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I did some digging to see other posts of 7171 and some that were authenticated had the same sort of puckering around the turnlock. Additionally, I read an interesting comment from Hyacinth that her catalog has the logo in the bottom right but authentic ones have them in the upper right. I don't care either way if it's authentic or not, I can just return it if it's not. But are we surrrrrrre it's fake? Since it doesn't have a creed, might it have been one of the first runs where the logo was on the bottom right but they changed it, hence the catalog photo? I would be interested to know what decade or year these were sold as I have some old catalogs I'd like to take a gander at.
 
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Two of these have appeared recently on uk eBay are they fake or real? Have tried googling but only get the normal black Rexy dinky appearing? If a lot of fakes are appearing will report them
 

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Catives said:
Can anyone help me identify this one? It's precreed.
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I'm not sure it's pre-creed, it might be just too small to have had one. I don't see any Coach logo anywhere, if there IS one we need to see a photo. We also need to see the underside of the flap and how the strap is attached. It MIGHT be a 4857 Horseshoe Belt Bag from around late 1993 so definitely NOT pre-creed but we need a few more photos.

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Hyacinth said:
I'm not sure it's pre-creed, it might be just too small to have had one. I don't see any Coach logo anywhere, if there IS one we need to see a photo. We also need to see the underside of the flap and how the strap is attached. It MIGHT be a 4857 Horseshoe Belt Bag from around late 1993 so definitely NOT pre-creed but we need a few more photos.

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I think you're right! Looks like the horseshoe belt bag. Apologies for assuming. I guess I thought because I have seen very few of these and there seemed to be enough room for a number inside (more than say the mini belt bag), that maybe it was super old! Thank you so much for your help!
 

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Catives said:
I think you're right! Looks like the horseshoe belt bag. Apologies for assuming. I guess I thought because I have seen very few of these and there seemed to be enough room for a number inside (more than say the mini belt bag), that maybe it was super old! Thank you so much for your help!
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Thanks. It's a style 4857.

That photo of the Coach logo and the outlet stamp would have put the date of the bag at 1990 or newer, which is about when Coach apparently opened their first outlet stores. Coach stores probably cleared out their back rooms and sent old unsold items to the new outlets too, but most genuine items with that outlet stamp won't be older than 1989-1990. That's why anything stamped on or in an item to be identified or authenticated is so important.
 
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