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I found this purse which I am pretty certain is from the Coach Dakota line as it has the cross-hatch pattern and the creed says that it was made in Italy, but for the life of me, I cannot find it in any past catalog. Any idea on what this bag is called? I searched on Google and found an old listing photo from a few years back where someone called it a Cartwright, but that's not the bag pictured in the catalog with that name.

I got it at a local church thrift store and paid $30. One of the workers there told me she didn't think it was real because it didn't have "numbers on the patch." Any help would be appreciated! :smile:
Yes, this might be the one @Hyacinth has discussed on the Authenticate This COACH thread that did not seem to make it into the catalogs. I've tagged her to join the conversation when she can. I think she has the entire Dakota collection!
This is probably the mystery Dakota that several tpfers have but Coach has no knowledge of. Is it large, like 12 x 9 x 4 inches? I have it in my files as style # 4202 but I think someone made up that number because it was one that hadn't been used in the Dakota line. It is normal for Dakotas to not have numbers.
Yes, it is about 12 x 9 x 4.


Yes, that's the mystery Dakota. Unless someone finds one that still has the price tag or the original box we'll probably never know what it is. I assumed it was number 4202 because all the other numbers were accounted for. And like I've posted before, I made up my own personal name for it based on other bags in the Dakota line, especially the Cassidy.

Here are my relevant posts, eye candy included:


 
Yes, that's the mystery Dakota. Unless someone finds one that still has the price tag or the original box we'll probably never know what it is. I assumed it was number 4202 because all the other numbers were accounted for. And like I've posted before, I made up my own personal name for it based on other bags in the Dakota line, especially the Cassidy.

Here are my relevant posts, eye candy included:


Thanks for the information! I do like your naming methodology ;) Weird that Coach would not have any type of information at all on this particular model.
 
Also, people measure in different ways. If the bag is lying flat, then the sides can be included in the measurement when it really should be measured seam to seam. Probably most important to know the circumferences of the bags. I don't think Coach would make 2 of the same size bags with different style numbers.


Wanna bet?

8F40 and 1896, same dimensions - click on the thumbnails to enlarge
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8K03 and 3612, same dimensions
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8K07 and 3661, same dimensions
8K07_SIGNATURE LARGE CARRYALL.jpg 3661_SIG LARGE CARRYALL-d1.jpg

Most of the "double style number" bags are styles that were first introduced in 2005 when Coach was using a unique-for-that-year combination style number made of 3 numbers and one letter, like the ones shown above the thumbnails. Starting some time in early 2006, they changed the style numbers back to 4 digits, all numbers. Then starting in Spring or Summer 2006 they expanded the style number to 5 numbers instead of 4, which is why you'll sometimes see bags with old style numbers that have a zero in front of the original four numbers, like Willises with -09927 numbers. There are at least 6 styles in my files with 2 style numbers, one from 2005 and another from 2006 or after, and there are probably more that I haven't found or recorded.

Never say "Never" with Coach, unless you're talking about handbags, backpacks, wallets and briefcases "made in Korea".
 
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Thanks for the information! I do like your naming methodology ;) Weird that Coach would not have any type of information at all on this particular model.

Not so weird, we've found several other "ghost styles"or "mystery bags" that apparently never made it into the catalogs or onto their computers. Maybe they just weren't around long enough. Coach didn't even have a public website until around 1997 and not much effort was made in those early days to keep it accurate and up to date. Many style numbers from before 1997 never made it onto Coach's computer inventory or history system in any form, which is just one of the reasons why trying to "authenticate" a vintage Coach with an old style number by calling Coach or asking a store employee to look it up is totally useless, there's no computer record of it at all.

Also, although it probably doesn't pertain to the mystery Dakota, bags or items made just for the Outlets were almost never included on the website or as part of Coach's regular computer inventory. The Factory Stores back then, and maybe still are, using their own separate computer inventory system.
 
Wanna bet?

8F40 and 1896, same dimensions - click on the thumbnails to enlarge
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8K03 and 3612, same dimensions
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8K07 and 3661, same dimensions
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Most of the "double style number" bags are styles that were first introduced in 2005 when Coach was using a unique-for-that-year combination style number made of 3 numbers and one letter, like the ones shown above the thumbnails. Starting some time in early 2006, they changed the style numbers back to 4 digits, all numbers. Then starting in Spring or Summer 2006 they expanded the style number to 5 numbers instead of 4, which is why you'll sometimes see bags with old style numbers that have a zero in front of the original four numbers, like Willises with -09927 numbers. There are at least 6 styles in my files with 2 style numbers, one from 2005 and another from 2006 or after, and there are probably more that I haven't found or recorded.

Never say "Never" with Coach, unless you're talking about handbags, backpacks, wallets and briefcases "made in Korea".
I humbly stand corrected!
 
Can anyone ID this coach wallet/crossbody? I bought it preloved from Poshmark, and when I received it, I saw that it has another ring to possibly wear it crossbody that wasn't able to be seen in the pictures. It was listed as a wristlet. Also, can anyone recommend a good place to find a matching crossbody strap?

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Can anyone ID this coach wallet/crossbody? I bought it preloved from Poshmark, and when I received it, I saw that it has another ring to possibly wear it crossbody that wasn't able to be seen in the pictures. It was listed as a wristlet. Also, can anyone recommend a good place to find a matching crossbody strap?

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Is there a small tag inside with a style number listed?
 
Does anyone know the style number of this kisslock clutch?

I am trying to figure out everything that's missing. I'm guessing a gold chain strap and maybe the hangtag are missing but I'd like to see a photo of the original, intact bag, TIA!

 
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