Thanks for sharing your outlook and indulging my curiosity. Yes, longevity is so important (health is wealth). Glad to hear you're taking good care of yourself. Thanks for the tips
I've learned a lot from your thread about facelifts!
How to go from 50+ to looking 20+ with plastic surgery rejuvenation.
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I've learned a lot from your thread about facelifts!
Hi @Sarakhamis, welcome to TPF. Just to clarify deep plane and smas are two different facelift procedures. The former will permanently damage your face by severing your facial retaining ligaments and the other will keep your ligaments intact and give you 10-15 years of lifted face longevity as long as you take postop oral steroids for a week to prevent any swelling.
My British friend is trying ASPS clinic in Seoul in 15 days. He will report back to me on his progress so I can determine how good Dr Lee's smas facelift is. ASPS do not give prednisolone to their patients so their faces will swell postop which leads to skin laxity. His prednisolone has arrived at heathrow from indiamart to stop any postop swelling.
I don't know any Chinese surgeons so can't recommend any. I have been watching Dr Tang on instagram for fun as the b&a facelift transformations are extreme.
Thank you very much for getting back to me much appreciated. Do you still think that Dr. Dongman Park is a good option, regardless his outrageous price?!
Hi MissOrange, you mention that the deep plane FL permanently damages the face. I'm really curious to know what you've come across in your research that led you to that conclusion?
With the deep plane FL "fever" nowadays, it seems that 99/100 surgeons have completely abandoned SMAS lifting - finding before/after SMAS lift pics isn't so easy now.
With the deep plane FL "fever" nowadays, it seems that 99/100 surgeons have completely abandoned SMAS lifting - finding before/after SMAS lift pics isn't so easy now.
I was wondering the same, most of the surgeons used extended deep face-lift instead of SMAS!
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Hey, may I know did you feel pressure on your eyes after fat grafting? I did fg to my upper eyelid 3 weeks ago and I’m still swollen and feeling the pressure. Also May I know how long after did the fullness of the upper eyelid go down and then stabilized for you?
I noticed I was getting a nlf and marionette on my pescetarian vegan hardly any protein diet and remembered that protein improves the collagen in the face. Also tpfers in Korea back in 2016 told me to stop wearing aging eyeshadow. Here is my 58 yo face just now looking young again without eyeshadow and after a few days of eating kfc skin on chicken, avocados, berries, burger whopper meat, wagamama katsu chicken, grilled chicken, etc. And here is the official list of foods to improve the collagen in your face to remove lines and wrinkles. https://www.eatingwell.com/article/7896640/best-foods-to-eat-for-a-collagen-boost/
I know. A friend of mine had a SMAS lift that failed within about 4 months. She then had a deep plane about 2 years later with a different surgeon. It made a big difference and it has still held up after 18 months.
Her experience (along with others) makes it very difficult to understand how the deep plane would make the face sag horribly by default, although I've no doubt it has for some. The woman in the attached article got 20 years out of a deep plane facelift - from her late 40s to late 60s.
I feel a mix of SMAS with some deep plane dissection (dual plane) may be an alternative approach to look at.
Personally I feel ageing isn't just due to A or B, and a facelift isn't a magic bullet for some people. The lucky ones start off with the right anatomy that allows them to really get a wow result, whether it's from a deep plane or SMAS.
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I'm grateful for you sharing your expertise on this site.
I had one question: I'm in my late 20s, and I recently had jaw surgery for sleep apnea, with a cheek implant. It seems this has caused my skin to bunch up in the paranasal area, whether due to ligaments being released during the incisions or a sagging malar fat pad I don't know, causing very pronounced nasolabial folds and nasojugal grooves. I think a midface lift is needed to fix it. Do you know what techniques doctors use when it just addresses the midface lift? Doctors seem to specify if they do deep plane or smas with a full facelift but not with midface lift. No websites I've come across specify, they just call it a " midface lift."
I'm grateful for you sharing your expertise on this site.
I had one question: I'm in my late 20s, and I recently had jaw surgery for sleep apnea, with a cheek implant. It seems this has caused my skin to bunch up in the paranasal area, whether due to ligaments being released during the incisions or a sagging malar fat pad I don't know, causing very pronounced nasolabial folds and nasojugal grooves. I think a midface lift is needed to fix it. Do you know what techniques doctors use when it just addresses the midface lift? Doctors seem to specify if they do deep plane or smas with a full facelift but not with midface lift. No websites I've come across specify, they just call it a " midface lift."
I saw several articles in the last 10 days about this. I have been hesitant to take Fish Oil caps since, trying to eat more salmon instead
WEDNESDAY, May 22, 2024 (HealthDay News) -- Folks regularly taking fish oil supplements might not be helping their health as much as they might think, a new study suggests.
Regular use of fish oil supplements could increase the risk of first-time heart disease and stroke among those with good heart health, new research suggests.
However, the long-term study also found that fish oil can help those whose hearts are already in trouble, potentially slowing the progression of heart problems and lowering the risk of death.
Healthy people taking fish oil supplements had a 13% increased risk of developing atrial fibrillation, a heart rhythm problem that increases the risk of heart attack and stroke, researchers found.
They also had a 5% increased risk of stroke, results show.
“Our findings suggest caution in the use of fish oil supplements for primary prevention because of the uncertain cardiovascular benefits and adverse effects,” wrote the research team led by Dr. Hualiang Lin, an epidemiologist with Sun Yat-Sen University in Guangzhou, China.
But in those with existing heart disease, regular use of fish oil lowered risk of a heart attack due to atrial fibrillation by 15%, and the risk of heart failure leading to death by 9%.
“Regular use of fish oil supplements might have different roles in the progression of cardiovascular disease,” based on whether someone already has heart problems, the researchers suggested.
“Overall, I would say that the days where people just go to the store and buy buckets of fish oil pills to keep them well should be over, but fish oil may still have a role in people who are already sick," Dr. Andrew Freeman, director of cardiovascular prevention and wellness at National Jewish Health in Denver, told CNN.
When it comes to fish oil, “the devil is in the details,” neurologist Dr. Richard Isaacson, director of research at the Institute for Neurodegenerative Diseases in Boca Raton, Fla., told CNN.
“First, we recommend testing for omega-3 fatty acid levels -- there are finger-prick tests you can buy online which are accurate -- and then you should continue to test. You don’t want to take fish oil if you don’t need it,” he stressed.
Isaacson recommended getting omega-3 fatty acids from food and added that sardines and wild-caught salmon are the best sources. Farm-raised salmon is not the best choice, he said, because of impurities in the water in which they are raised.
Fish oil remains a rich source of omega 3 fatty acids, which are thought to help both heart and brain health. As such, health experts recommend that people eat oily fish like salmon at least once a week or use fish oil supplements, researchers said in background notes.
For the study, the team analyzed data from nearly 416,000 people ages 40 to 69 participating in a large-scale health study in the United Kingdom. These people were surveyed between 2006 and 2010 to gather basic health information, including their regular diet and supplement use. https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...a,a 5% increased risk of stroke, results show.
BUT nor does any clinic in Seoul so that's not answering her q. He's good but very exy. Did a fabulous job on Caucasian American woman recently. She and he rocked it.
But why would a clinic do DP when you've only paid for SMAS? Profit wise it sounds illogical. BTW almost 100% of DP are done under local with sedation and every doctor who does local w sedation claims it is a safety factor.
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